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NAVAIR Builds F-5F From Parts Of Others
Aviation Week ^ | Apr 16, 2009 | Lee Ann Tegtmeier

Posted on 04/17/2009 1:40:59 PM PDT by Yo-Yo

A team of NAVAIR and Northrop Grumman specialists built three F-5F Franken-Tiger Adversary aircraft from parts of old U.S. Navy and Swiss F-5s. The Naval Air Station Key West needed more F-5s for its squadron, so rebuilding older F-5s that had very little service life left was the option.

"We took the two-seat cockpit section and the tail section of the old Navy F-5Fs and bolted these on to the newer center section of the former Swiss F-5Es," said Jay Bolles, Adversary Aircraft program manager at NAVAIR. He said the project took about two years to finish.

"The Block I Avionics upgrade, the LN-260 Inertial Navigation Unit and the cockpit display unit was also included in the baseline configuration, vastly improving navigation and pilot situational awareness," said Bolles. "We will deliver 41 F-5Ns and three F-5F Franken-Tigers on time and on budget."

The rebuilding was a natural extension of NAVAIR's project that is converting 41 former Swiss Air Force F-5Es and older Navy F-5Es to the newer F-5N standard.


Photo: NAVAIR


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aerospace; navair
Navy Agressor F-5s have lasted longer than the F-16Ns that were purpose built by the Navy to replace them.
1 posted on 04/17/2009 1:41:00 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Yo-Yo

My dad worked on the production line for these in the early
sixties.

Beautiful little plane...


2 posted on 04/17/2009 1:45:12 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: Yo-Yo

Whatever happened with the F20 Tigershark?


3 posted on 04/17/2009 1:47:11 PM PDT by SandWMan (Even if you can't legislate morality, you can legislate morally.)
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To: SandWMan

It was too good and didn’t cost enough.


4 posted on 04/17/2009 1:50:01 PM PDT by beelzepug (OFA (ofay) had best stay away.)
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To: rahbert
Beautiful little plane...

If you ever had the opportunity to strap one of those on your butt you would agree it is anything but "little" on a burner climb to 50 grand in 3 minutes...:)

5 posted on 04/17/2009 1:52:56 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: Yo-Yo

The people that accomplished that should apply for the Airframe and Powerplant License test. A & P license. Pick where you want to live and work worldwide.


6 posted on 04/17/2009 1:57:00 PM PDT by BobS
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To: Yo-Yo

Building a plane from parts of others reminds me of a story a buddy of mine in the Air Force told me. He had this F-16 that needed a part so ordered it, wasn’t a big part and just needed replaced out of routine maintenance.

Came back rejected out of stock, order next largest assembly.

So he ordered next largest assembly. Same thing. Out of stock, unavailable, whatever. Kept going up the list of assemblies and such till he got an order fulfilled with a delivery date.

Few days later his CO comes into his office “WHY THE HELL IS THERE A NEW F-16 SITTING ON MY FLIGHT LINE!!!”

Dunno if it’s true or not but it makes a good story.


7 posted on 04/17/2009 1:59:33 PM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: SandWMan

It exists as a website now, I guess.

http://www.f20a.com/


8 posted on 04/17/2009 2:04:46 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: beelzepug
"It was too good and didn’t cost enough."

LOL! funny because it's all too true.

9 posted on 04/17/2009 2:07:12 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: SkyDancer

Looks like a lot of fun.


10 posted on 04/17/2009 2:15:37 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: beelzepug

That was kinda my thinkin’.

I have seen a couple years ago flying overhead. You could tell they weren’t F-5’s or T-38’s from the single engine.

I always thought they were just cool.


11 posted on 04/17/2009 2:18:46 PM PDT by SandWMan (Even if you can't legislate morality, you can legislate morally.)
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To: fishtank

I thought they had built more than three. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen one...

Kinda like UFO’s I guess...


12 posted on 04/17/2009 2:20:54 PM PDT by SandWMan (Even if you can't legislate morality, you can legislate morally.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

>>”It was too good and didn’t cost enough.”
>
>LOL! funny because it’s all too true.

*sigh* - And I’m assuming the government would say that F-20s aren’t covered by the 2nd Amendment, right?


13 posted on 04/17/2009 2:27:04 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Yo-Yo

“...three F-5F Franken-Tigers...”

Franken-Tigers. I like that.


14 posted on 04/17/2009 2:27:19 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Yo-Yo

Cool story. Now I’d like to see them convert the franken plane into a drone! Then I’ll really be impressed.


15 posted on 04/17/2009 2:31:18 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: beelzepug

Exactly


16 posted on 04/17/2009 3:08:56 PM PDT by Never on my watch (If Obama isn't the Anti-Christ, then tell me what the Anti-Christ would do differently.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Did Northrop have a role in designing the original F/A-18 with McDonnell Douglas? There seem to be similarities with the F-5 and F-20. Just wondering.


17 posted on 04/17/2009 3:13:23 PM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: magslinger

ping


18 posted on 04/17/2009 3:19:06 PM PDT by Vroomfondel
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To: Yo-Yo

/MARK


19 posted on 04/17/2009 3:48:40 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: SandWMan

It was a victim of George HW Bush’s “peace dividend” and was cut.


20 posted on 04/17/2009 4:00:39 PM PDT by US Navy Vet
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21 posted on 04/17/2009 4:10:27 PM PDT by magslinger (The first dog has papers but the President doesn't. How interesting!-cubsfanconswoman)
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To: Northern Yankee

If I was to have some sort of jet fighter I’d like a Cessna Super Tweety (Dragon)... Go Cessna!!!!


22 posted on 04/17/2009 4:51:52 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Yo-Yo

When I was in high school, WAAAY back in the late ‘80’s, a friend and I would drive to Ft. Campbell and drive back right next to the airfield (I’m sure they won’t let you do that now!). The Air Force kept some T-38’s there, and we would sit and watch them touch-and-go on the runway. Them little suckers would barely touch the ground, lift the gear, then almost instantly, they would go perfectly vertical. Amazing little aircraft.


23 posted on 04/17/2009 5:01:23 PM PDT by SandWMan (Even if you can't legislate morality, you can legislate morally.)
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To: 12Gauge687
Did Northrop have a role in designing the original F/A-18 with McDonnell Douglas? There seem to be similarities with the F-5 and F-20

All Northrop. Started in the mid-60s as a private project to develop a Mach2 "F-5 replacement".

1972 USAF LWF contract for "technology demonstrator" prototypes results in building YF-17

1974 "Technology demonstrator" becomes an Air Combat Fighter program. Around this time Navy issues requirement for a lightwieght Foghter/Attack aircraft(VFAX). Congress demands it be based on ther ACF contenders (I believe some other form had also got a contract for prototypes)
McDonnell-Douglas brought in for carrier aircraft design experience


24 posted on 04/17/2009 5:12:41 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Obama water dog don't swim)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Thanks! I knew the shape looked vaguely familiar. Guys like Jack Northrop, inventor of the first “flying wing,” were national treasures. Today, folks know Octomom but not Northrop or Kelly Johnson. Sad.


25 posted on 04/17/2009 6:41:23 PM PDT by 12Gauge687 (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice)
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To: 12Gauge687

The F/A-18 was derived from Northrop’s F-17, which competed against the General Dynamics F-16 for the USAF’s lightweight fighter.


26 posted on 04/17/2009 7:18:21 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (Leftism is a mental disorder.)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

i wish i had been a zoomie rather than a sapper..


27 posted on 04/18/2009 8:59:35 PM PDT by rahbert
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