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Rice approved CIA waterboarding
bbc ^ | 23 April 2009

Posted on 04/23/2009 9:40:19 AM PDT by JoeProBono

The CIA's use of waterboarding to interrogate terrorism suspects was approved by Condoleezza Rice as early as 2002, a senate report reveals. As national security adviser, Ms Rice consented to the harsh interrogation of al-Qaeda suspect Abu Zubaydah, the Senate Intelligence Committee found. Memos released last week show that he and another key detainee were subjected to waterboarding 266 times. Former Vice-President Dick Cheney has said the techniques produced results.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: condoleezzarice; waterboarding
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To: ElayneJ

I’ll tell you what makes me angry...what about the soldiers who were charged at ABu Ghraib...remember ‘a few bad soldiers who were breaking the law’ Obviously, this torture or whatever- the orders came from the top. Those soldiers, including England should be pardoned immediately. I have always believed Pres. Bush to be a decent man...but in his speech he said ‘we don’t torture....a few bad apples etc’. Yet, this was not the case and those soldiers were scapegoated. This is wrong.


21 posted on 04/23/2009 10:21:25 AM PDT by nyconse (When you buy something, make an investment in your country. Buy Amrican or bye bye America)
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To: Bigun
Yep, only three:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2236171/posts
22 posted on 04/23/2009 10:22:30 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: Doctor Raoul

23 posted on 04/23/2009 10:23:22 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono
Joe Scarborough said this morning that they are calling water-boarding everytime a drop of water hit his face. I knew that number of 186 times didn't pass the smell test.
24 posted on 04/23/2009 10:24:16 AM PDT by McGruff (I guess it all depends upon what the meaning of "bow" is.)
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To: estrogen

They were only killed, not ‘tortured’....


25 posted on 04/23/2009 10:25:24 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: nyconse

what about the soldiers who were charged at ABu Ghraib...or whatever- the orders came from the top.


Why do you think so?


26 posted on 04/23/2009 10:27:03 AM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: JoeProBono

Isn’t it a shame that so much time and money is being spent going after those that were doing their best to protect us all, and have actually saved American lives.

What we should be doing is bringing to justice those that spent 8 years confounding the war. Their actions placed our country and brave Troops at greater risk, extending the war, costing lives and treasure that would otherwise not been lost. Politicians, using the MSM to leak secret and critical information to the world, thus to our enemies, is no less than treason.

Leave our Patriots alone and bring the Traitors to justice....


27 posted on 04/23/2009 10:37:04 AM PDT by Gator113 (I'm a PROUD RIGHT WING EXTREMIST.... Obama has failed, IMPEACH Obama NOW....)
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To: ElayneJ

I have seen the reports on even Fox that by 2002 orders were given that allowed harsh interrogations-torture? I don’t know. However, why charge these young soldiers who were no doubt following their orders. It should at the least be investigated again.


28 posted on 04/23/2009 10:38:08 AM PDT by nyconse (When you buy something, make an investment in your country. Buy Amrican or bye bye America)
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To: Bigun

I think water boarding is torture...and I don’t think we should do this...so flame away. This is America...we do not torture. There were other types of interrogation as well discussed on Fox so it’s a decent source.


29 posted on 04/23/2009 10:40:40 AM PDT by nyconse (When you buy something, make an investment in your country. Buy Amrican or bye bye America)
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To: nyconse

I think you have led far too sheltered a life and have no real idea as to the nature of the world we live in. If you want to call that a flame feel free!

BTW: Shepard Smith is the token flaming liberal on Fox!


30 posted on 04/23/2009 11:52:31 AM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: nyconse
I think water boarding is torture...and I don’t think we should do this...so flame away. This is America...we do not torture. There were other types of interrogation as well discussed on Fox so it’s a decent source.

Way to support terrorism, nyconse.

31 posted on 04/23/2009 11:53:37 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

I think we can fight terrorism without violating our principles...I really do. That being said, I don’t want prosecutions. I do want those soldier convicted of torturing terrorists out of jail...it’s just not fair.


32 posted on 04/23/2009 11:57:06 AM PDT by nyconse (When you buy something, make an investment in your country. Buy Amrican or bye bye America)
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To: Bigun

No, it’s a reasonable reply...thanks. I am a military brat, my Dad was Navy...he would not have approved of torture...assuming this is torture which I hope it is not. I would like to see this ended...no good will come of endless investigations.


33 posted on 04/23/2009 11:58:57 AM PDT by nyconse (When you buy something, make an investment in your country. Buy Amrican or bye bye America)
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To: nyconse

Waterboarding saved American lives.


34 posted on 04/23/2009 12:00:38 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: nyconse

I don’t want to be crude but just imagine what can be done with a bit of piano wire and a short length of dowel rod. If you will do so I think you will begin to get the idea what torture really is.

Torture is NOT making someone believe something is happening that, in reality, is NOT happening. It is a perfectly legitimate interrogation technique.


35 posted on 04/23/2009 12:06:41 PM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Bigun

I don’t know about that and refuse to think about it lol! However, someone on Fox said Water boarding was illegal. Is this true?...I still don’t want trials or hearings. It’s a lose lose proposition.


36 posted on 04/23/2009 12:12:56 PM PDT by nyconse (When you buy something, make an investment in your country. Buy Amrican or bye bye America)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

How do we know this? I still don’t think torture is a good idea...are we going to remain America- a good and decent country or not?


37 posted on 04/23/2009 12:14:32 PM PDT by nyconse (When you buy something, make an investment in your country. Buy Amrican or bye bye America)
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To: nyconse

OK, it’s obvious you don’t get it, and this conversation is useless.

So, what’s your regular handle over at DU?


38 posted on 04/23/2009 12:18:41 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: nyconse

Waterboarding was not illegal and should not be now and, at the risk of repeating myself, America has not “tortured” anyone.

Those on the other side have done so! Slowly cutting off a man’s head with a dull knife comes to mind.


39 posted on 04/23/2009 12:22:27 PM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Bigun

I agree that our enemies have done horrible things, but Fox mentioned other stuff besides water boarding...which I have to say makes me squeamish... I just want the whole thing dropped in terms of investigations...we are at war. If someone crossed the line then quietly fire this person...let it go.


40 posted on 04/23/2009 12:28:28 PM PDT by nyconse (When you buy something, make an investment in your country. Buy Amrican or bye bye America)
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