Posted on 04/29/2009 8:05:28 AM PDT by steve0
Our handlers have allowed mexi-flu to be planted over the US just as surely as if a throat culture was disbursed on a petri dish. Here is the map:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=p&msa=0&msid=106484775090296685271.0004681a37b713f6b5950&ll=32.639375,-110.390625&spn=15.738151,25.488281&z=5
Obama sat on his hands watching as the infected rose up from Mexico to spread "the sickness," nice.
What would they do in Singapore? If you even tried to come onto their land with the crud they would first cane you, then quarantine you, then maybe shoot you before you could spread the death to others. We should use thermal scanners like they are: http://www.slate.com/id/2217148/ Haven't these people seen 12 Monkeys? Hopefully it will never kill more than a few thousand people here. Liberalism has taken our options off the table. Illegal immigration pandering has taken closing the border off the table, bathouses and homosexuality has taken quarantine off the table.
| California | 10 |
| Connecticut | 2 probable |
| Delaware | 4 |
| Florida (Orlando / Disney | 1 |
| Hawaii | tracking possible cases |
| Idaho | out of 9 possible 3 were negative |
| Illinois | 1 probable (school closed) |
| Indiana | 1 |
| Kansas | 2 |
| Massachusetts | 2 confirmed |
| Michigan | 1 ? |
| Minnesota | first probable case (2 school closings) |
| Nebraska | probable |
| New Jersey | 5 |
| New York | 45 |
| North Carolina | suspect cases |
| Ohio | 1 |
| South Carolina | two probable |
| Texas | 6 |
Closing the borders? Quarantine?!
Deep breath...
It’s the flu, not Captain Trips.
Don’t let the media get you worked up.
easier link: http://tinyurl.com/cywddc
April 28, 2009
PITTSBURGH — A Pittsburgh-area researcher is tracking the spread of the swine flu outbreak online.
We just started, said Dr. Henry Niman. The government already expressed an interest.
Video
http://www.wpxi.com/health/19315326/detail.html
Niman is the researcher responsible for a computer-generated map that shows how and where the swine flu is spreading worldwide. He spent his career studying the evolution of viruses.
The map shows instances of suspected and confirmed cases, and its up-to-the-minute tracking of the virus has the government interested in the information it can provide.
The spread is probably more than what is represented by the dots on the map because they are really trailing (the progress of the virus), said Niman.
Though the virus has not made its way to the Pittsburgh area yet, Dr. Donald Burke, Dean of the School of Public Health at the University of Pittsburgh, spearheaded the formation of a group to deal with the flu when it does show up.
INTERVIEW: Dr. Burke Discusses Swine Flu
Burke said the threat the swine flu poses is big enough that were going into emergency mode and putting together a task force.
His swine flu task force held its first meeting on Tuesday afternoon, and Burke is now planning a public meeting in which city officials and residents can come and address any concerns they may have.
Google map of known outbreaks (scroll out for wider view)
2 cases diagnosed in my county just north of New York city. People had visted Mexico. Said to be mild cases.
I am looking for a map that shows the spread over time. Has anyone seen such a map? This map comes close but not what I am looking for.
I know, I know but its a tragedy if even one person dies when it could have been prevented by inconveniencing some traveler for a month. BTW “28 days later” movie about zombie sickness pandemic used to be free on hulu http://www.hulu.com/28-days-later PSS I agree we are much more likely to die from say starvation due to Obama’s implementing Socialism.
Why the conspiracy angle? With rapid cheap international travel being pervasively common, any contagious disease can be spread to anywhere on the planet well within 48 hours - no conspiracy needed.
Create a boogie man, come to the rescue with the all intrusive, all power full gub'mint authority.
Anyone see the movie "V for Vendetta" ?
The conspiracy is very long planned and deep. It started over a century ago with two guys named Wright.. as part of the conspiracy, the helped invent a mode of transportation that allows people to quickly go from one place to another.. all in a plan to spread this illness years later. Forget the CFR, NWO, AT&T, or other assumed players, the real conspirators are the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale.
We could inconvenience ALL travelers for a month and the traffic deaths would plummet.
Doesn’t mean it’s a good idea.
re: 28 Days - worth watching? Haven’t seen it, but the ads looked entertaining.
Has anyone seen a map where it shows a spread over time? Or maybe some animation of the spread?
This would be the antidote for Tea Parties. Why crackdown when you can leave it up to the forces of “Nature.”
I am not taking a position on it either way, not enough information to make any conclusions. Its bad to be a conspiracy nut but its just as bad to be victim to “Bogus Skepticism.” Genuine skeptics seek to apply doubt impartially and systematically, forming their beliefs through a balanced evaluation of the evidence. Bogus skeptics cherry pick evidence on the basis of a pre-existing belief, seizing on data, however tenuous, that appears to support their position, while declaring themselves “skeptical” of any evidence, however compelling, that undermines it. The characteristic feature of bogus skepticism is that it “centres not on an impartial search for the truth, but on the defence of a preconceived ideological position”. wiki
BTW I will change my behavior in regard to public events once I am fairly certain of the death rate per infection and the infected population gets to somewhere over one percent.
Please. Give. It. A. Rest.
In the age of modern air travel, no conspiracy is needed to explain the spread of an airborne illness. Travellers to Mexico bring it back. They in turn have contact at schools and at work and at stores. All this fits within basic epidemilogical models, no CFR/Build-A-Burger conspiracy required.
Over the last few years, I thought that maybe the right wing had learned their lesson about not seeing a conspiracy behind every tree after the Clinton era was over, as the left wing assumed that posture during the Bush years. Now conspiracies are back in vogue with many on the right. I guess it's a function of being out of power in the White House.
Google “george bush” “bird flu” conspiracy.. I think some conspiracy writers are lazy and just doing a find and replace with bird to swine and bush to obama.
Yeah great movie for end of worlder types, ha ha. Except the producers must hate guns(or result of UK gun ban, not many left) as all the violent scenes the characters are using other weapons where clearly if it were the US major amounts of firearms would be seen.
BTW Dawn of the Dead 2004 was pretty entertaining also. Of course I think your time is better spent watching rapture films “A Thief in the Night” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Thief_in_the_Night as that scenario will eventually actually occur.
The combination of polymorphisms is odd, though. Not impossible in nature, but peculiar and suspicious.
As another poster noted, the lefties saw Bush's hand in the bird flu threat. Sometimes something is nothing more than its face value. Obama and the Dems are doing enough in public, in open view, to oppose them and garner public support for that opposition, such as cap and trade and a proposed AWB. Let's stick to that and really try to stay away from the conspiracy stuff where possible.
“Captain Trips”
I did see this guy walking down the street today, followed by a black bird.
Not really, at that, the combination of polymorphisms is what generally gives us our new strains often. People get hung up on ‘bird’, ‘swine’, ‘asian’, and ‘spanish’ as being drastically different species of flu, when in fact, they are just descriptions of strains with similar mutations. The ‘combination of polymorphisms’ really just means that they have similar mutations to these other strains.
http://www.birdflumanual.com/articles/influenzaEvolutionAdaptation.asp
Maybe we should start pinging randall flagg to these threads so he can explain himself. :->
The Four Horsemen nowadays travel business class...
Was he wearing cowboy boots?!
He was wearing boots.
He had just left the diner where Gen. Billy Starkey and I were having breakfast.
Starkey looked like he had a cold. Very agitated. Something about a gas station blowing up out here in West Texas.
I’ll ask my buddy Stu over in Arnette if he’s heard anything...
I think I know Stu.
He was real sick as a kid; caught everything, but hasn’t been a sick a day in his life since then.
Any of y’all having constant dreams about an old black woman?
Yeah, but the Mrs. wants to go to Vegas.
If you suspend all realms of reality, then yeah, it's entertaining. I'd watch it again.
No, but this crow keeps flying around cawing at me annoyingly.
I keep finding myself in a cornfield in my dreams.... I hear a guitar and somebody singing.
What does that mean, Doc?
Are more people dying from this flu than from other types of flu??
Cause, if there isn’t, why are we closing schools & inciting panic among the general population??
If they have a time lapse map they are not providing it free as far as I can see from their website. I found them on my own with a google search and they appear to have a sophisticated understanding of the epidemic issues. I would just like to monitor the incoming info few times a week on a map or some sort of animated map.
Here is somewhat similar to what I am looking for: http://blog.fortiusone.com/2009/04/27/dataset-of-the-day-following-the-swine-flu-outbreak/ It has an animation that jumps from one datapoint to the next in chronological sequence. What I would like to see is a blank map then display and memorialize each data point by leaving it on the map. Anyone seen anything like that?
Yes it is but it's going to be some damned serious nonsense before it's over. They just closed all Fort Worth schools until further notice, all 144 of them!
You don't need to see a movie, just watch the news. We just saw them take over big chunks of the financial industry by engineering a crisis and it's no secret the health care industry is next on their shopping list.
How soon until the sheople take their collective heads from the sand/clouds/people magazine and revolt?
Yep. Mass panic. Just what they want. How many dead bodies you counting down there? This is a political hype designed to ramp up emergency GOVERNMENT action. Freedoms will be lost and there are VERY few sick people to show for it.
Glad to see you're still throwing dirt on any smoldering conspiracy theories... goodness knows, there couldn't possibly be any conspiracies brewing with Rahm E. and Barry H. O. running the show.
How silly, huh?
;-/
Occam's razor. Try it out sometime.
The national and global pattern of spread can be explained just fine from jet travel.
Oh, and I don't 'throw dirt' on conspiracy mullings when the official version of events doesn't make sense, such as the claim that the AF1 flyover of NYC a couple of days ago was a photo op. But when the sitution can be readily explained without a conspiracy, IMO that is the path to take. After all, the libtards thought Bush was engineering the Avian Flu scare to declare martial law. Now that a Dem is in the White House, the conspiracy-minded on the right have swapped places with them.
I have read the ‘scientists’ on the ground say it is not that big of deal. OK I will buy that, but how do they know it is not?
1) Obama has stated in so many words that it is his philosophy that one should "never let a good crisis go to waste," meaning (implicitly) that crises are excellent tools for hiding huge government expansion under the guise of "I'm just responding to this crisis..."
2) The Dems got the White House, and grew their domination in Congress in 2008, in large measure due to a financial crisis basically engineered by the Dems (the Housing/Mortgage Collapse) which shook the entire U.S. and global financial system.
3) Obama goes to Mexico with his entire entourage (press, boot-lickers, rump-swabs, co-conspirators, etc.) and within 2 (two) days, there's a weird "hybrid" flu virus spreading as an apparent pandemic from Mexico to the U.S.
One needn't be a complete conspiracy imbecile to realize that all these similarly slanted dots might be somehow connected.
One would only have to be an imbecile to ignore it. IMHO.
;-/
Sorry, dude, but your (par for the course) insults don’t obscure the fact that there are perfectly good explainations for how this is spreading. I wouldn’t put it past the Obama Admin to figure out how to get some kind of political gain from this outbreak. But the spread can be explained just fine from modern epidemiological concepts regarding air travel, and how this is spreading is the topic of this thread.
Try to keep up. The topic of the thread is how the flue is spreading: "Our Controllers have seeded Mexi-flu 4 see MAP of spreading"
I responded to the poster's premise. You got after me for it.
You really are pathetic. You are more intent on attacking rather than having any kind of reasoned discussion related to the thread.
Talk to the hand instead, I'm done wasting time with the likes of you.
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