Posted on 04/29/2009 8:18:01 PM PDT by Chet 99
It's sad that we have so many ‘non-family’ voters (metrosexuals, feminists, welfare moms, etc.) that couldn't care less about family members, theirs or ours, as other than victims.
There's a significant shortfall in the number of people who could vote versus those who do vote. If we're fortunate, those who can but haven't will wake up and see how our freedoms are being destroyed. Realizing our dire straits, they will vote to ‘flush washington dc’ and vote real representatives (not career politicians) in.
Hopefully, these new/real representatives will establish term limits.
It's quite a dream, but I don't see how things will really change without something like that (or a Constitutional Convention) happening.
>>> You also don’t show your children by example that it’s acceptable to take in a creature, earn its trust, enjoy its companionship, and then dump it in the woods as soon as you get bored with it or decide it’s become inconvenient. <<<
Sure we do — with some minor changes, we call it “dating.”
A more evolved form of this social behavior is called “marriage/divorce.”
No, I am not the one using emotion based arguments, you are. Where in the Bible does it say the government must punish people for not treating an animal as it says?
The laws interfering with human rights over animal rights are wrong and should be abandoned. It is also wrong to cause animals to needlessly suffer...just keep the government out of it.
Pal,
I’ve been the rational one all along here, my posts show that. You’re the one going off the wagon like a whiny liberal, trying to toss in other issues to obscure what we’re specifically talking about.
In the Bible it talks about having dominion and STEWARDSHIP over animals, and it talks about being able to use animals as we see fit, but not to be CRUEL towards them. Proverbs 12:10 says: “A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.” Abandonment of a domestic animal in the wild is not a righteous act, it is cruel, because a domestic animal, which has total dependence on man, is not equipped to handle survival in the wild. Especially a domestic PREY animal.
You should also be aware that government is a necessary evil that God has given the power of the sword, to protect people from evildoers, to keep the peace, and administer justice. Read your bible. We need it to punish people who break the law, as individuals we do not have that power, so we need to have laws (made by the people and their representatives).
You’re crazy if you think the only things laws do is interfere with whatever the heck you want to do. Laws are necessary because people do not control themselves on their own. People don’t get to decide what is lawful or not on their own, there are laws everyone has to live by. Norms of what constitutes cruelty, neglect, abuse, etc. Otherwise we’re just living in anarchy and nothing is illegal because nobody has a common standard.
It's a rabbit.
How do you keep the govt out of it? When you have people who have 65 cats in a house & it is a breeding ground for germs & they aren’t caring for the cats? Or the people who chain a dog outside & don’t feed it & it is dying of thirst? Or the nuts who like to set cats on fire just for the fun of it? I don’t like the govt being too involved but there have to be some laws. I don’t like people who abuse animals at all & if I see it I tend to get involved. I guess it is because I’ve worked with animals so I see how abused they have been. I don’t think it is normal for a person to beat a dog,cat or horse to death or leave it to starve. I tend to think those kind of people are bound to have mental problems. I’ve read that children who abuse animals have a strong possibility toward being violent as adults. If there are no laws concerning the treatment of animals then who will stop the abuse of them?
Many years ago there were many ways for these kind of problems to be dealt with that did not include government. People would socially shame them and people would avoid dealing with them economically, and people in the church would offer to take abused animals and also help find people to take care of them.
Now that the government has taken over in so many varied ways, community involvement has devolved in to nothing more than an anonymous call to the police. Sometimes those calls end up with dead people and dead animals when the police arrive and start shooting(many times justified). And sometimes the police are used as a weapon by bickering neighbors, or the police go to the wrong place and start shooting at people and animals that have no idea why police would be at their home shooting at them.
It has been so long that community and church involvement was paramount as the best way to deal with these issues, that people think the government is the only way. With more government involvement comes more government control until we end up as a totalitarian state which we are getting closer and closer to each day.
Many years ago people knew their neighbors & would help them out. People cared for each other without expecting payment. The family unit wasn’t broken. People went to church & children learned respect. However I don’t see too much of that any more. Damn shame. It would be nice to have those values back again wouldn’t it?
Yes it would. Many don’t realize just how much good from our culture we have lost. When the government took over so many things like education(and stopping school prayer in the process) and welfare, we stopped relying on each other and let the government become our masters. Damn shame.
I home school now. I do it mainly because my child was getting sick from the school. However I refused to allow her to be taught it is ok to be gay or in Al Gore’s bs. I think she will be taught more of the truth & get better values. So far we love it. I get people who say I am unfair to her but I think her health issues are more important then her social life in school. She has plenty of friends here in our neighborhood. I wish people would be kinder & more caring toward each other...
You are probably saving her social life by excluding some bad influences on her. I applaud your homeschooling endeavors, I know it is hard work and takes a lot of dedication.
Thank you. I am saving money too which I can use to buy good books for her. She is rarely sick now, & that is a blessing.
Well, I was being specific about bunnies. I hear what you are saying about feral cats and dogs.
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