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Journalist from Playboy Bet He Could Withstand 15 Seconds Of Waterboarding By A Trained US Soldier
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Posted on 05/02/2009 12:25:59 PM PDT by Perdogg

Journalist from Playboy Bet He Could Withstand 15 Seconds Of Waterboarding By A Trained US Soldier

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To: Perdogg

Thanks for posting that. Have already posted it to a couple of different boards to show people exactly what waterboarding is.


21 posted on 05/02/2009 12:51:30 PM PDT by Joiseydude (Kate Smith - God Bless America http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCavKL2zdjM GREAT visual interpretatio)
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To: SampleMan
Post 18 counters your point. The CO2 builds up at the bottom of the lungs by being held in that orientation, and it seems the autonomic nervous system kicks in.

Actually, while I see value in the "makes you scared and your heart beat fast" conclusions people make to show this isn't torture, I don't like the actual techniques getting publicized.

22 posted on 05/02/2009 12:52:19 PM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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To: Perdogg

And for those moral relativists who say that we convicted Japanese soldiers for waterboarding, there is one important distinction.

They waterboarded strictly for punishment and for their own kicks, whereas we waterboarded to extract information that would save lives.

It’s the same as the difference between murder and justifiable homicide.


23 posted on 05/02/2009 12:52:25 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: SampleMan
Have you been waterboarded? I bet you a $1,000 per second you cannot last 15. BTW I have been, I made 9 seconds and I could (at the time) hold my breath for a long time. You are overlooking the mechanics of what is going on.
24 posted on 05/02/2009 12:52:39 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Big_Monkey
Excellent points.
25 posted on 05/02/2009 12:53:32 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Cvengr

the brilliance of water boarding is that it takes physiology into account along with the psychological fear of drowning. Being under water with head up is not the same as lying down with head below feet having a cloth over your head with water being poured on your face. Once water gets into your nose, the physiological response comes in to breathe. When you can’t the psychological fear of drowning kicks in and bammo, you have someone who wants the boarding to stop immediately.

When Christopher Hitchens had it done to him, he was so frozen with panic he couldn’t drop the weight to alert he wanted it to stop.


26 posted on 05/02/2009 12:54:25 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Hope and Change. Rhetoric embraced by the Insane - Obama, The Chump in Charge)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Yes I have.


27 posted on 05/02/2009 12:54:37 PM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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To: Perdogg
Nice video showing that waterboarding isn't torture. Who's afraid of water? It's psychological not physical. Not much required to do it. If this is torture so are Liberal ideas. Liberals are psychologically challenged aka insane.
28 posted on 05/02/2009 12:58:20 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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To: Gil4

I think it’s simply a reflex, and most of the commentary and explanation in the video was rather fanciful. You have to watch out for this when you snorkel. Normally you’re in the prone position, so no problem, but if you try turning on you back, you can get “water up your nose”, which induces a feeling of panic.

I agree it doesn’t look like much when you watch it.


29 posted on 05/02/2009 1:20:41 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Perdogg

The Chopper elevator was the most effective when there were ‘two’ detainees -—— first one gets an express elevator ride to the dirt (minus the benefit of elevator), the second knows he’s next.


30 posted on 05/02/2009 1:33:12 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: VRWC For Truth

“Torture” is having to listen to Hillary Clinton speak.


31 posted on 05/02/2009 1:35:11 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Big_Monkey

And that’s before breakfast!


32 posted on 05/02/2009 2:57:25 PM PDT by ex91B10
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To: Perdogg
Ok watch that then factor in the guy's got a nuk in mid town Manhattan ....and you need to stop it...

Or lib's it a Klansman with a bomb about to go off in a black church sunday school full of kids

33 posted on 05/02/2009 3:17:50 PM PDT by tophat9000 ( We are "O" so f---ed)
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To: Gaffer
I also liked the 45 to the knee cap. Very effective. I understand battery powered tools have opened up lots of new routes in information extraction.
34 posted on 05/02/2009 3:59:59 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: Perdogg; Ernest_at_the_Beach

He’s probably figuring it’s a lot like “marine biology” at the one of the mansion whirlpool parties.


35 posted on 05/02/2009 4:47:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

I have always wanted to visit the grotto before I die. ;)


36 posted on 05/02/2009 4:49:00 PM PDT by Perdogg (University of North Carolina - 2009 NCAA basketball champs)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
Once water gets into your nose, the physiological response comes in to breathe.

I have chronic sinusitis and have been forced to breath through my mouth for most of my life due to congestion. I stumbled upon a technique used by Yoga's as a "cleansing ritual". They use a small pot, much like you'd use to water house plants, and pass a warm isotonic salt solution through one nostril and out the other. You do this while breathing through your mouth. After you've flushed about a half pint through you change sides and flush the other side. There is also a similar technique for further cleansing where the flow through the nose is allowed to pass to your throat.

Millions of people do this as a twice a day routine. I imagine they scratch their heads in wonder as to what's so tough about water in your nose? It works wonderfully well to de-gunk the all eight sinus cavities. My allergist (a Siek) told me it was a very effective way to reduce congestion without taking antihistamines, after I had inquired about the practice. I have been doing this for several years now and breath freely through my nose.

Regards,
GtG

37 posted on 05/02/2009 5:00:19 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

I have the same problem, except water get trapped in my ear when I do it because I have scars from tubes.


38 posted on 05/02/2009 5:07:08 PM PDT by Perdogg (University of North Carolina - 2009 NCAA basketball champs)
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To: max americana
”Obama” and “intelligence”.

ROFL

39 posted on 05/02/2009 5:12:13 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

Yes, I know of it and use a similar device attached to a water pik with non iodized salt to cleanse my sinuses. Difference is that you have your head at such an angle where water is able to pass through one nostril and out the other. Water boarding doesn’t allow for that and the rush of water is much more than what you are doing. If you don’t believe me, have someone try water boarding you! :P


40 posted on 05/02/2009 6:34:57 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Hope and Change. Rhetoric embraced by the Insane - Obama, The Chump in Charge)
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