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Mountain Lion Slaughters Cats (CA)
Mountain News ^ | May 7, 2009 | Cat Robertson

Posted on 05/07/2009 2:43:47 PM PDT by jazusamo

 

 

When a local couple heard their cats outside crying at about 2 o'clock on Tuesday morning, they thought it was probably a dog bothering their cats, but it wasn't. They were completely shocked at what they found in their yard. A huge mountain lion had made its way into the enclosure in which their cats were kept. The three cats didn’t stand a chance.

The couple, who live near Crestline Video, asked not to be identified. They are heartbroken and in shock. “The mountain lion was probably 3-and-a-half to four feet long,” the woman said. “It looked like it weighed about 300 pounds. It was four feet tall.”

“I was at my computer and I heard this heinous scream,” the woman’s husband said. “I didn’t know if it was a raccoon or my cats. I went outside and saw a huge mountain lion trapped inside the pen. It bucked its head at me. I think it felt threatened. It didn’t seem to like me at all. At that point I ran into the house and called 9-1-1.”

The sheriff was there within minutes, and arrived in time to see the mountain lion while it was still in the pen.

“The sheriff's spotlight was trained on the pen, and it startled the cat,” the man said. “It bucked the pen. It used its head to move it, and it (the pen) flew in the air. I haven't seen a mountain lion this big since (I went to) the San Diego Zoo. It's as big as the ones at the Mirage (in Vegas). When the pen went flying I ran inside the house.”

“If we knew something like that could do this kind of damage,” the man’s wife said, “we'd have never left them outside, even in an enclosure.”

The man said there is a gully in his back yard, and he thought the mountain lion might have been stalking animals in the area.

“A couple of years ago a cat of ours vanished without a trace. This could explain it,” he said. “This is one mean cat. Anyone caught by this thing, if it was in the right frame of mind, would be killed.”

ALWAYS BE CAUTIOUS

Deputies conducted an area check, and the mountain lion was seen in front of a home on Bowl Road, heading toward Crest Forest Drive. They contacted the California Department of Fish and Game (DFG), and are reminding locals to keep an eye on their children and pets. Always supervise children when they are outdoors, and try to keep pets in at night.

“As a reminder,” a sheriffs' press release states, “if residents see a mountain lion they are not authorized to shoot the animal, but immediately notify the sheriff's department and the DFG.”

The DFG offers this information and these tips to stay safe: More than half of California is mountain lion habitat. Mountain lions generally exist wherever deer are found. They are solitary and elusive, and their nature is to avoid humans.

Mountain lions prefer deer but, if allowed, they also eat pets and livestock. In extremely rare cases, even people have fallen prey to mountain lions.

- Don't feed deer; it is illegal in California and it will attract mountain lions.

- Deer-proof your landscaping by avoiding plants that deer like to eat. For tips, request a Gardener's Guide to Preventing Deer Damage from DFG offices.

- Trim brush to reduce hiding places for mountain lions.

- Don't leave small children or pets outside unattended.

- Install motion-sensitive lighting around the house.

- Provide sturdy, covered shelters for sheep, goats, and other vulnerable animals.

- Don't allow pets outside when mountain lions are most active—dawn, dusk, and at night.

- Bring pet food inside to avoid attracting raccoons, opossums and other potential mountain lion prey.

Staying Safe in Mountain Lion Country

Mountain lions are quiet, solitary and elusive, and typically avoid people. Mountain lion attacks on humans are extremely rare. However, conflicts are increasing as California's human population expands into mountain lion habitat.

- Do not hike, bike, or jog alone.

- Avoid hiking or jogging when mountain lions are most active—dawn, dusk and at night.

- Keep a close watch on small children.

- Do not approach a mountain lion.

- If you encounter a mountain lion, do not run; instead, face the animal, make noise and try to look bigger by waving your arms; throw rocks or other objects. Pick up small children.

- If attacked, fight back.

- If a mountain lion attacks a person, immediately call 9-1-1.

Mountain lions that threaten people are immediately killed. Those that prey on pets or livestock can be killed by a property owner after the required depredation permit is secured. Moving problem mountain lions is not an option. It causes deadly conflicts with other mountain lions already there, or the relocated mountain lion returns to the area from which it was removed.



TOPICS: Outdoors; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; california; ccw; cougar; mountainlion; rkba
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Very doubtful this cougar was 300 lbs. Excerpt from another article:

The largest Mountain Lion ever to be documented weighed 276 pounds, but a Lion of this size is extremely rare.

Mountain Lion

1 posted on 05/07/2009 2:43:47 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo
Very doubtful this cougar was 300 lbs.

I'll bet it LOOKED that big, all furious and nasty in the middle of the night.

2 posted on 05/07/2009 2:46:44 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: jazusamo
I see that their list of suggestions has not been brought to us by any of the letters G, U, or N....
3 posted on 05/07/2009 2:47:14 PM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I’m sure it did, probably would to me too. :)


4 posted on 05/07/2009 2:49:00 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: george76; Inyo-Mono; girlangler; Flycatcher

Cougar Ping!


5 posted on 05/07/2009 2:50:01 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo; Slings and Arrows; Glenn; republicangel; Bahbah; Beaker; BADROTOFINGER; etabeta; ...
Reason #462 why inside furbabies live longer.


6 posted on 05/07/2009 2:50:34 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Israel is built on rock. Arabia is built on sand.)
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To: steve-b
Exactly. I'm sure unloading a mag of 180gr Golden Sabers into the big cat would of stopped the attacks.

Hell, no dog would stand a chance with a mountain lion.
7 posted on 05/07/2009 2:51:04 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: jazusamo

Wh in the heck would leave their precious pets out at such an hour, especially in CA. We have all sorts of meat eating animals that come out at night here even in the cities. I have let a previous cat I owned outside (before he was hit by a car at 18 years old) but always brought him in for the night. That is just wrong.


8 posted on 05/07/2009 2:51:37 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: jazusamo

“This is one mean cat”.


Baloney, it’s just a bigger cat than they are used to. This is another example of people living in an area without being aware of the reality involved. Send them back to NYC!


9 posted on 05/07/2009 2:52:06 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: steve-b

Typical California...That’ll probably change after another person is attacked by the even incresing population of cougars.


10 posted on 05/07/2009 2:52:13 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Exactly. My new cats are inside 24/7. We have to play with them more often and make sure they have lots of cat furniture :-) especially around the windows, but it is so worth it after losing my first baby furball to a car. Never again will I let my cats out.


11 posted on 05/07/2009 2:54:18 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I agree and am familiar with this area. It’s mountainous and has been sparsely populated for many years. Towns of Arrowhead, Crestline, Running Springs and Big Bear, it’s been a recreational area for many years and thousands of people use the area winter and summer.

The bigger problem with cougars is in heavily populated areas that abut mountainous areas in So CA. Cougar numbers have increased greatly since they were protected in 1990.


12 posted on 05/07/2009 2:59:06 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
We live here in Crestline and sometimes see Mountain Lions and Bears.

Never leave your pets outside.

13 posted on 05/07/2009 2:59:28 PM PDT by ezcritter
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To: Slings and Arrows

Whyohwhy do people allow their cats (and dogs) outside at night, in mountainous areas, known for puma populations? Idiocy lives.

No matter where I have lived, my dogs were always walked (never chained during the day) and my cats were never allowed outside, period.


14 posted on 05/07/2009 2:59:45 PM PDT by Monkey Face (As long as there are tests, there will be prayer in public schools.)
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To: ezcritter

Ditto!!


15 posted on 05/07/2009 3:00:48 PM PDT by Monkey Face (As long as there are tests, there will be prayer in public schools.)
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To: ezcritter

That’s very good advice. That’s a beautiful area but haven’t been there for years, have a sister who had a place there for several years.


16 posted on 05/07/2009 3:04:23 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Cats ... belong ... indoors.


17 posted on 05/07/2009 3:05:11 PM PDT by LiberConservative
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To: jazusamo

I moved from town almost 25 years ago because I wanted room, and wanted to live in proximity to wildlife. I reckon I didn’t move far enough.


18 posted on 05/07/2009 3:05:16 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: jazusamo
Maybe I should rethink that buckknife I told you about. It may not be of much help to me if I'm jumped from behind.

Thanks, Jaz, for the ping.

But ya got me a little nervous now...

19 posted on 05/07/2009 3:06:02 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: randomhero97
"Exactly. I'm sure unloading a mag of 180gr Golden Sabers into the big cat would of stopped the attacks."

In California you would be prosecuted for killing a protected species.



20 posted on 05/07/2009 3:06:12 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

Well, California sucks. :D


21 posted on 05/07/2009 3:08:56 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: jazusamo
Shoot.....shovel.......shut up.......I have even heard this from more than one DFG person.
22 posted on 05/07/2009 3:09:29 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: Slings and Arrows
We let our first kitty outside for one night the day we took her in from straying. After tossing and turning worrying about her, we brought her inside and never let any of our cats out again. All 12 of the cats we've had in our nearly 30 years of marriage have done just fine inside.



23 posted on 05/07/2009 3:11:10 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: randomhero97

Yeah, and I bet a lot of Post #22 happens, too.


24 posted on 05/07/2009 3:12:32 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

Even though cougars are protected in CA they’d have a hard time prosecuting you for shooting one that was attacking pets or livestock on your property.

Last year there was a cougar along the front country between Glendora and the Pasadena area that killed several pets. Finally it was spotted one night in Arcadia and the Arcadia police killed it.


25 posted on 05/07/2009 3:13:28 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: GOP Poet; Monkey Face

I’m with you. Luckily, two of my cats are big sissies when it comes to going outside, and the third has decided to hang around for the meal service.


26 posted on 05/07/2009 3:17:13 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Israel is built on rock. Arabia is built on sand.)
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To: Flycatcher

LOL!

Doubtful you’ll ever be attacked by a cougar in the wild though it has happened, the ones in the wild still have a fear of man. If you ever are attacked it will be from the rear though so always keep checking your 6. :)


27 posted on 05/07/2009 3:17:52 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Slings and Arrows

I belled The Great PV, so that on the rare occasions that he slipped out, we could find him. Thankfully, that was only twice, since he was three months old.

When he heard a bell that sounded like his, he was alert and looking for another cat! (I still miss the ol’ wuzzer!)


28 posted on 05/07/2009 3:20:07 PM PDT by Monkey Face (As long as there are tests, there will be prayer in public schools.)
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To: jazusamo
The mountain lion was probably 3-and-a-half to four feet long,” the woman said. “It looked like it weighed about 300 pounds. It was four feet tall.”

That's one wierd-ass looking mountain lion!

29 posted on 05/07/2009 3:20:13 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Proud member of the Homeland Security Department watch list.)
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To: LiberConservative

I have two cats, Tard & Retard. They act like dogs. They walk with me every evening when I take my Golden Lab for a walk thru the field. I have a doggie door and they use it and I don’t have a litter box. They have free reign and always come in at night on their own. Retard curls up with Maggie, my dog downstairs before bed and Tard goes up and sleeps with Maggie at night. Occassionaly, they do tend to be real stupid, hence their names, and stay out when it is pouring rain. Then they come in and get everything wet. I found 30 minutes on the fluff cycle in the dryer gets that taking care of right away. Add a bounce sheet and they smell good too.


30 posted on 05/07/2009 3:23:47 PM PDT by compman (left handed people are the only ones in their right mind!)
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To: Slings and Arrows

:-D. Lucky you.


31 posted on 05/07/2009 3:23:50 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: TheOldLady

My three seem to do OK. One used to try to escape, but then figured out that the meal service was a lot better inside.


32 posted on 05/07/2009 3:31:22 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Israel is built on rock. Arabia is built on sand.)
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To: randomhero97
I'm sure unloading a mag of 180gr Golden Sabers into the big cat would of stopped the attacks

PLease people, get a 12 ga. Yes, the 180's would work, IF you could hit it.

As a note, the house cats died for a good cause, they let the home owner know there is a BIG DANGEROUS cat in their neighborhood and their kids can be watched and guarded, Thank you house cats.

33 posted on 05/07/2009 3:31:59 PM PDT by MrPiper
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To: jazusamo
“if residents see a mountain lion they are not authorized to shoot the animal, but immediately notify the sheriff's department and the DFG.” Well that's smart of them. Don't shoot the poor mountain lion, just let him attack you while your trying to notify the right authorities.
34 posted on 05/07/2009 3:32:40 PM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: jazusamo
We need to assign Guard dogs to prevent this CATastrophe!


35 posted on 05/07/2009 3:34:54 PM PDT by Young Werther (Julius Caesar (Quae Cum Ita Sunt. Since these things are so.))
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To: Young Werther

The cat looks meaner than the dog. :) LOL


36 posted on 05/07/2009 3:35:41 PM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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To: jazusamo

Would little brass bells work ?

/s


37 posted on 05/07/2009 3:39:59 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: EmilyGeiger; Young Werther
The cat looks meaner than the dog. :) LOL

LOL! I thought the same thing. :)

38 posted on 05/07/2009 3:41:24 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: george76

LOL!

Then the brass bells would be in big cat scat.


39 posted on 05/07/2009 3:42:51 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: LiberConservative
Indoor cats maybe, but my outdoor cat only comes in to eat and sleep. He is an animal after all...
Disclaimer,,, I live in the suburbs.
40 posted on 05/07/2009 3:46:18 PM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: jazusamo; JoeProBono
Cats on cats

FMCDH(BITS)

41 posted on 05/07/2009 3:50:30 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: GOP Poet
Wh in the heck would leave their precious pets out at such an hour, especially in CA. We have all sorts of meat eating animals that come out at night here even in the cities. I have let a previous cat I owned outside (before he was hit by a car at 18 years old) but always brought him in for the night. That is just wrong.

Plus to keep them caged. If they were at least free, they'd have a little bit of a chance.
42 posted on 05/07/2009 3:53:26 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: jazusamo
“This is one mean cat. Anyone caught by this thing, if it was in the right frame of mind, would be killed.”

That's a stupid statement. Mountain lions don't kill for fun, like humans do. They kill to survive.
43 posted on 05/07/2009 3:54:17 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: nothingnew; jazusamo

44 posted on 05/07/2009 4:02:29 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono
From litter box to driveway to neighbor's yard

LOL! So true.

45 posted on 05/07/2009 4:08:55 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

I love Arizona - season on lions is open year-round, and it’s an $11 over-the-counter tag...


46 posted on 05/07/2009 4:19:44 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: Slings and Arrows

So would people! LOL


47 posted on 05/07/2009 4:38:49 PM PDT by Fawn (http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=v8320y&s=5)
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To: LiberConservative

No ...they.....don’t. They were put on this earth with claws, night vision and hunting skills. They were meant to be outside, but a large accomodating environment inside the home is an ideal —unless you ask the cat... most won’t be as happy. You also have to consider the different area... a city is worse than the suburbs.


48 posted on 05/07/2009 4:42:34 PM PDT by Fawn (http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=v8320y&s=5)
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To: JoeProBono
Oh, what am I sayin'? Godbless ya Joe. I love ya man.

FMCDH(BITS)

49 posted on 05/07/2009 4:57:54 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: jazusamo
"Even though cougars are protected in CA they’d have a hard time prosecuting you for shooting one that was attacking pets or livestock on your property."

That's great news. :-)



50 posted on 05/07/2009 4:58:14 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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