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Star Trek: Movie Review by LS
self | Star Date 5/8/09 | LS

Posted on 05/08/2009 1:26:01 PM PDT by LS

This is simply a great movie. For those of us who grew up first on the television series, then the series of motion pictures, then "The Next Generation," this is the TV series on special-effects steriods, and in my opinion the second best movie of all Star Trek movies, next to "The Wrath of Khan."

The first 20 minutes is jarring, and you have to pay attention. It runs the viewer from Capt. Christopher Pike (played by a one of my favorites, Bruce Greenwood), to the evil Romulan Nero (Eric Bana, sans Hulk get-up), to the young Spock, to the risk-taking James T. Kirk (played supremely in this role by Chris Pine), then finally to the late-teen Spock who chooses Star Fleet, played by Zachary Quinto. Yet somehow the editors managed to keep the essential plot lines straight. Kirk is exceptionally bright, but a hell-raiser. Uhura (Zoe Saldana) is as beautiful as can be, and ironically has no interest in Kirk but rather is in love with Spock. Kirk proceeds to get beat to a pulp by almost everyone in this movie. (First it's cadets from Star Fleet, then Spock, then the Romulans. You begin to think Kirk was taught to fight at UN peacekeeper school).

Above all, what makes the movie is the development, on multiple levels, of the friendship between Kirk, Spock, and to a lesser degree, Bones (Karl Urban) and Scotty (Simon Pegg). John Cho plays a straight Sulu, thank God, and Anton Yelchin does a good job as Checkov.

The plot revolves around the "prime"/older Spock (Leonard Nimoy) trying to save Romulus in the future, and failing. Somehow, the evil Romulan Nero comes through a time warp to the past to destroy Vulcan out of revenge---and to make the young Spock watch!

Don't get wrapped up in debating the "time continuum" stuff, just go with it. There is a glitch with this at the end (the same person cannot exist in two places at once, or two people from different times can't co-exist, or . . . ah, forget it).

Instead, just enjoy the origins of the comeraderie, the sexual tension between Spock and Kirk over Uhuru, the one-liners, and above all, the fantastic way the actors adapted the characters to their own personas while maintaining much of the original Kirck/Scott/Bones/Spock personalities. At times, you can almost see Shatner coming through Pine; unfortunately, at times, Urban tries a little too hard to "be" Bones, and of all the characters, his is the least developed in terms of motivations or past. But the friendship between Spock---at any age---and Kirk is wonderful, if rocky at first. When Spock prime says to Kirk, "I am, and always have been, your friend," it brought a tear to my eye as I recalled Spock dying to save the Enterprise in "Wrath of Khan."

If CGI had existed in 1966, instead of cardboard sets, this is what that Star Trek might have looked like. Enjoy. Live long and prosper, unless, of course, you are Spock prime speaking to Spock in which case, as he noted, "It would be self-serving."


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1 posted on 05/08/2009 1:26:01 PM PDT by LS
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To: LS

Bump, I’ve heard nothing but good reviews from everyone who went to see it today.


2 posted on 05/08/2009 1:26:49 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: LS

Funny...

The Onion Reports - Star Trek fans bash new film as “Too good & too much fun”
http://www.new.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=78919774634&h=M-cIl&u=leRmp&ref=mf


3 posted on 05/08/2009 1:29:04 PM PDT by AngieGal
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To: AngieGal

LOL. There are a LOT of funny lines in, but very little PC crap. Great line at the end-—won’t spoil it-—between Kirk, Spock, and the Romulan.


4 posted on 05/08/2009 1:29:53 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS

Right after Wolverine, it’s on my list.


5 posted on 05/08/2009 1:30:31 PM PDT by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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To: LS

As a Stooge fan, I can’t imagine how it can be good if you liked the original cast. I’m not looking forward to the “new” Three Stooges movie that’s coming out. The last “new” one fell far short. How can this one not do the same?


6 posted on 05/08/2009 1:32:34 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (When the going gets tough, Democrats switch sides.)
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To: LS

I purchased tickets earlier today for the 5:30 show, so I’m headed downtown to meet my husband. Thanks for the review. My favorite Star Trek movie to date has been Wrath of Khan...partly because they incorporated and built upon a story from the original series (I’m not real sure why they didn’t do that more.)


7 posted on 05/08/2009 1:32:52 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: LS
There is a glitch with this at the end (the same person cannot exist in two places at once, or two people from different times can't co-exist, or . . . ah, forget it).

While not true to the Star Trek series, both LOST and Harry Potter have "disproved" that theory.

Just sayin'...

8 posted on 05/08/2009 1:33:04 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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To: LS

My son took me to see it last night. It was great. It is much more true to the original TV shows than the later (Next Generation, etc) ones. I expect to see more in the future.


9 posted on 05/08/2009 1:33:42 PM PDT by jim_trent
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To: LS

Excellent, excellent, excellent. I used to think that The Wrath of Khan was the best ST movie. I have changed my mind on that. This one will not disappoint.


10 posted on 05/08/2009 1:34:04 PM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: LS

The reviews all seem to be very positive. I’ll check it out this weekend. But I’m surprised that they’ve rewritten the Star Trek universe so that Kirk, Spock, McCoy, etc haven’t just been tethered together from early middle-age but have instead been enduring each others company from their youths in this movie to the elderly stage they reach in Star Trek VI(?). I can’t even stand going to high school re-unions - can’t imagine what it would be like to see those people every day until I reached senility.


11 posted on 05/08/2009 1:34:21 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: LS
Are we forgetting



Grace Lee Whitney as Lt. Janice Rand?
12 posted on 05/08/2009 1:36:38 PM PDT by eCSMaster
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To: Past Your Eyes

Please, don’t go then. Deny yourself a great movie.


13 posted on 05/08/2009 1:36:58 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS

I snuck out and saw it at lunch today. I’m a fan of the old Trek and loved this new one. I will see it again in the theater and I haven’t done something like that in more than 20 years.


14 posted on 05/08/2009 1:37:00 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: LS

In the original series, wasn’t Spock something like 400 years old?

How did they reconcile that with both Spock and Kirk being youths at the same time?

From the previews, it does look like a ‘must see’.


15 posted on 05/08/2009 1:37:12 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Nimoy looks a zillion years old. But it still works. This new cast should be good for 3-4 pics.


16 posted on 05/08/2009 1:37:46 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS

I saw it last night. Was impressed. I thought a reset was going to really mess up the known Star Trek cannon. It did but because of the plot it works and makes it acceptable to have more films in the franchise forgetting what we’ve seen in the earlier Star Trek movies and series.

It’s not the same time line anymore, but an alternative.


17 posted on 05/08/2009 1:37:48 PM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: humblegunner
'Right after Wolverine, it’s on my list.

Wolverine can best be described by one word - disappointing. Sorry!

Star Trek looks like a better show with a better script.

18 posted on 05/08/2009 1:38:10 PM PDT by Big_Monkey (Flubama - bringing disease everywhere he goes.)
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To: jimbo123

I dont go to the movies except for Batman, 007, Rambo or Star Trek..so I guess its time for me to go.


19 posted on 05/08/2009 1:38:34 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous ( I think you're so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: TomGuy

Don’t see it then. If you get hung up on who is what age, you won’t enjoy it anyway. Maybe something more realistic, like, say, “Curious Case of Benjamin Button.”


20 posted on 05/08/2009 1:38:40 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: jimbo123

Yeah, it’s that good. I NEVER go to movies in theaters. (Can’t even remember the last one I saw before this). Definitely one to own for your home collection.


21 posted on 05/08/2009 1:39:31 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Armedanddangerous

Dark Knight. That’s it-—that was the last pic I saw in a theater before this one.


22 posted on 05/08/2009 1:40:20 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS
"John Cho plays a straight Sulu, thank God

I'm taking my two daughters to tonight's showing. But, I heard John Cho talk about supporting Dennis Kucinich on the Leno show, and it's almost ruined the whole movie for me already. Actor's should stick to endorsing the movie they've made and stop indulging their personal political musings.

23 posted on 05/08/2009 1:40:23 PM PDT by Big_Monkey (Flubama - bringing disease everywhere he goes.)
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To: Big_Monkey

Just keep saying to yourself, Harold smoked a lot of weed. A LOT of weed.


24 posted on 05/08/2009 1:40:59 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: mnehring

Does Kirk start his infatuation with green alien women in this movie?


25 posted on 05/08/2009 1:42:41 PM PDT by lormand ("Janet Napolitano should resign or be fired." - Congressman John Carter - My Congresscritter)
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To: LS
Don’t see it then.

Geezzzz...Calm down!

I was just asking.

Knowing how the old Trekkie crowd are/were, they know the number and design of the bridge on every version of every ship in StarFleet. They will enumerate every discrepancy.


26 posted on 05/08/2009 1:42:52 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: AngieGal

Hmmmmmmm just keep William Shatner away from swimming pools and everyone will be safe..


27 posted on 05/08/2009 1:43:41 PM PDT by KLT (A damn Yankee, from the great state of Mississippi....Go Freepers Go!)
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To: LS
Too much "Cloverfield." Not enough "Lost."

A constantly moving whirligig camera is not a substitute for either acting or story-telling. Just hold the thing still, for Pete's sake, so we can see what's happening.

And the film literally strips the classic characters of their dignity.

Grade: C

28 posted on 05/08/2009 1:43:45 PM PDT by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: LS

Saw it last night. Simply the best trek yet! Did you notice the music had a lot in common with “Wrath of Kahn”


29 posted on 05/08/2009 1:43:49 PM PDT by Species8472
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To: jimbo123

Was it crowded? I will go see it next week probably Thursday night.


30 posted on 05/08/2009 1:44:07 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: LS

I also liked that there wasn’t really any anti-conservative bias in the movie. Or at least I didn’t detect any. And the movie really was a lot of fun. Reminded me of the fun I had when I first saw Wrath of Khan in the theater a long time ago.


31 posted on 05/08/2009 1:44:22 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: LS
but are there tribbles?

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32 posted on 05/08/2009 1:46:57 PM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: lormand

Apparently so...yes though unsure if the infatuation actually started here...


33 posted on 05/08/2009 1:47:14 PM PDT by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: I Drive Too Fast

I saw it at 11:30a in Times Square and it was about half-full in a large house. The audience was a bunch who were skipping out of work and trying to avoid being recognized by anyone that knew them.


34 posted on 05/08/2009 1:47:21 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: LS

C’mon! It’s obvious the director was making this movie an indictment of the Bush regime and the whole Iraq war! Only when we form a one-world government and come together as one, black & white, Scottish and Vulcan, gay Oriental and Russian...

(just kidding - might see it in a few weeks when the crowds die down - I predict big numbers)


35 posted on 05/08/2009 1:48:39 PM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: LS
As a Trekkie from it's origin....thank you for the review!!

Trying to catch a matinee this weekend.

36 posted on 05/08/2009 1:50:18 PM PDT by wolfcreek ("unnamed "right-wing extremist")
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To: eCSMaster

I never did know what that girl’s name was. When I was in high school I had a real crush on a girl who looked just like her. I never did get up the courage to ask her out


37 posted on 05/08/2009 1:50:34 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: LS
Just saw it.

Good, but forgettable.

38 posted on 05/08/2009 1:51:47 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: Squidpup

Actually, I have mixed feelings seeing a JJ Abrams project after he abandoned us watching “Alias”


39 posted on 05/08/2009 1:51:55 PM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: Squidpup

When Scotty first met Kirk, there was a tribble cooing in the background. Scotty was funny, he was Shaun in Shaun of the Dead, I thought he looked vaguely familiar.

As a fan of the old series more than TNG, I absolutely loved this movie!

Good job by Abrams!


40 posted on 05/08/2009 1:53:05 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: lormand

The Orion woman is infatuated with him, Kirk.....not so much. LOL.


41 posted on 05/08/2009 1:55:35 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: LS

Thanks for the review! I am definitely going to see it. As a Trek fan, I was afraid the movie might have sucked, but I am going to go see it ASAP!


42 posted on 05/08/2009 1:57:07 PM PDT by Paradox (When the left have no one to villainize, they'll turn on each other.)
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To: LS

Off to see it in IMAX Saturday morning. Can’t wait!

Thanks for the review.


43 posted on 05/08/2009 1:57:32 PM PDT by Calif4Bush (STILL a 2012 Proud Moosehead)
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To: LS

And here’s the Top 10 from Dave last night, actually delivered by Nemoy, Top 10 Lines Never Said in a Star Trek movie:
10. Warp factor 8! Arby’s closes in 10 minutes.
9. We’re entering a breach in the space-time continuum or a wormhole or some crazy crap like that.
8. Set phasers to fabulous!
7. Welcome aboard the Starship Enterprise -– today’s in-flight movie is “Big Momma’s House 2.”
6. We’ve been hijacked by Somali pirates.
5. Sir, I’m going to need Saturday off to attend my nephew’s Bar Mitzvah.
4. My baby-daddy is a Vulcan -– on the next “Maury.”
3. The Enterprise just hit a goose –- we’re gonna have to land in the Hudson.
2. Live long, prosper, and keep on hangin’ and bangin’.
1. I find your choice of hairpiece highly illogical.


44 posted on 05/08/2009 2:05:55 PM PDT by razorboy
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the sexual tension between Spock and Kirk...

You had be scared there for a second that this was slipping into K&S fan fiction territory...

45 posted on 05/08/2009 2:06:16 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (If Liberals are so upset over torture, why did they mock John McCains stiff arms during the campaign)
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To: LS
Well hate to be a major wet blanket but saw it late night and thought is total suck!!!!!! Some the worst writing ever!... The whole opening starting with Kirk's birth was some the most hokey melodrama crap ever put on the big screen.

I'm an old trek fan that watched it as a little kid in first run from the premiere of the first episode in 1966... The original show try to have some smart writing... this new movie was just stupid .. to the point of almost being a satire of bad Sci Fi...

Ever see Stargate SG1 do it own satire of itself as "Wormhole X-treme"?...The new Star Trek movie is the Wormhole X-treme version of Star Trek done with a straight face

46 posted on 05/08/2009 2:16:09 PM PDT by tophat9000 ( We are "O" so f---ed)
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To: LS
Kirk proceeds to get beat to a pulp by almost everyone in this movie. (First it's cadets from Star Fleet, ...

Did they do their homework? Was one of those cadets Finnegan?

47 posted on 05/08/2009 2:20:55 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: tophat9000
The original show try to have some smart writing...

2 words: Spock's Brain

48 posted on 05/08/2009 2:22:17 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: LS

Good review, thanks, I won’t see it.


49 posted on 05/08/2009 2:27:19 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: TomGuy
>> In the original series, wasn’t Spock something like 400 years old? <<

No. Spock's father was around 103 in the original series (and yes Vulcan's live a lot longer than Humans, their average life span is about 250), but Spock was in his 30s just like Kirk. Nimoy's Spock in this movie is about 150, from Picard's era, and goes back in time about 130 years, where his younger self is in his 20s.

>> How did they reconcile that with both Spock and Kirk being youths at the same time? <<

No need to reconcile anything since there's no reason Kirk and Spock wouldn't go to the academy at the same time. This movie DOES play fast and loose with Star Trek canon in certain parts (one of the silliest being the idea that Chekov became an officer on the Enterprise before Kirk, and that's before Nero significantly alters the timeline), but most of the "changes" (aside from the complete set redesign) can be explained by time travel and Nero (the bad guy) trying to destroy the federation in the past to get revenge on Spock.

So in short, the relationship of pre-TOS Kirk and Spock in this movie fit either timeline perfectly. A couple scenes really mess with existing Star Trek canon, but this movie is so amazing we Trekkies are willing to overlook it. :-)

50 posted on 05/08/2009 2:31:03 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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