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Charter Arms CARR
Charter Arms ^ | 5-10-09 | Me, vanity

Posted on 05/10/2009 4:20:49 PM PDT by MileHi

These new wheel guns are subposed to be out in April "09. They fire 9mm, .40 and .45 auto loading cartridges.

http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/CARR.html


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Has anyone had their paws on one yet? The .45 version looks sounds like a good compliment for those who prefer .45 auto loaders.
1 posted on 05/10/2009 4:20:49 PM PDT by MileHi
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To: MileHi

Sorry, this is the link:

http://www.charterfirearms.com/products/CARR.html


2 posted on 05/10/2009 4:22:29 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi

Looks good.

Have you seen this one yet?
http://www.ruger-firearms.com/LCR/


3 posted on 05/10/2009 4:23:21 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: MileHi

4 posted on 05/10/2009 4:24:40 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: MileHi

Of course, these will require a new gun control law. Should His Obamminess get his wish and all ammo is serialized, we will need a law requiring criminals to open the cylinders of their CARRs and dump the spent cases after committing a crime.


5 posted on 05/10/2009 4:25:49 PM PDT by Redcloak ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: MileHi

I am so getting the 9mm one, the only problem I see there is you probably cant use a speedloader or full moon clips with this system but it would be a very fun gun to play with at the range.


6 posted on 05/10/2009 4:27:00 PM PDT by omega4179 (Boycott government communist tractor factories!)
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To: MileHi

I like the design of the Charter Arms revolvers fine. Unfortunately I bought a .22 Pathfinder in the 80s and all six chambers were out of alignment with the barrel. Not terribly but enough to ruin it for me.

They are under new ownership and maybe have solved the quality problem I experienced.


7 posted on 05/10/2009 4:27:25 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: mamelukesabre

Not in person, but yes.

The CA interest me because it shares aammo with self-loaders that you may already have.


8 posted on 05/10/2009 4:28:06 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: mylife

Thanks for the pics. As you see by my post, I don’t doo it very often.

Nice little wheel gun, no?


9 posted on 05/10/2009 4:29:19 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi

I am in for one, I love revolvers but have a deep dislike for 38 special and don’t want to add a new caliber so the 9 or 45 would be very interesting.


10 posted on 05/10/2009 4:30:51 PM PDT by omega4179 (Boycott government communist tractor factories!)
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To: Redcloak

They will scratch their noggins when there are corresponding cases scattered about.


11 posted on 05/10/2009 4:30:54 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi

I like the idea of a revolver that fires 9mm Luger. I also like the idea of the ruger LCR with a partially polymer frame and a super lightweight cylinder.

Put the two together and you have my idea of a perfect conceal carry revolver.


12 posted on 05/10/2009 4:31:13 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: omega4179
the only problem I see there is you probably cant use a speedloader or full moon clips with this system

Good point, need to look into that.

13 posted on 05/10/2009 4:32:15 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: mamelukesabre

If the CARR catches on, look for others to follow and improve.


14 posted on 05/10/2009 4:34:58 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi

Yeah, I like it.


15 posted on 05/10/2009 4:41:19 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: MileHi
question: not owning any revolvers, why buy one in a pistol cartridge when you can buy a .357mag and shoot wadcutters???

is it availability of ammo or commonality with your pistols to share one kind of ammo? or just for the hell of it???

just curious

16 posted on 05/10/2009 4:41:55 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: yarddog
First thing you do to a wheel gun is have the barrel chamfered...takes care of that problem for any practical purpose.
Besides, with a two inch tube, five foot range, and your blood pressure spiked; not a big issue.

(PS: Not a Charter Arms fan, but this one will find a home in 9mm/.380)

17 posted on 05/10/2009 4:42:36 PM PDT by norton
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To: mylife

Oh, my.
A revolver.
Are we to go back to propeller airplanes as well? ;-)


18 posted on 05/10/2009 4:44:31 PM PDT by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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To: norton

No, a revolver has to have correct range or it will not be accurate. It already had a chamfered barrel, probably enough to prevent lead spitting but not bullet deformation,

The little Pathfinder had a four inch barrel and adjustable sights. Just the thing for plinking or small game hunting. However it absolutely had to be accurate which it was not.

Now if it were just for defense I guess it could be argued that accuracy is not that important but even there I would want it.


19 posted on 05/10/2009 4:47:13 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: humblegunner
Personally I have taken to carrying a revolver lately.

They never jam.


20 posted on 05/10/2009 4:49:53 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: humblegunner

And I like propeller planes ;)


21 posted on 05/10/2009 4:50:58 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Chode

Well, I like .357 and .44 wheel guns. But NATO calibers are a lot easier to buy in bulk. So, for a reasonable price, I like the concept and want to see one.


22 posted on 05/10/2009 4:51:11 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi
"If the CARR catches on, look for others to follow and improve."

Ruger did it in the way back...used two cylinders, 9 and .38/.357.

The 9 used case length within a relatively long cylinder while the .38/357 seated on the rim.
IIRC, there was no half-moon clip or other effort at a speed loader (anyone - ?)

Colt and S&W both did a .45 rimless revolver in 1917 to USA specification, they were NOT convertibles. As adaptations from .45 wheel guns, they CAN be provided with a second cylinder in the original caliber. If it lets go in your face, you never read this post.

23 posted on 05/10/2009 4:53:15 PM PDT by norton
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To: MileHi
"If the CARR catches on, look for others to follow and improve."

Ruger did it in the way back...used two cylinders, 9 and .38/.357.

The 9 used case length within a relatively long cylinder while the .38/357 seated on the rim.
IIRC, there was no half-moon clip or other effort at a speed loader (anyone - ?)

Colt and S&W both did a .45 rimless revolver in 1917 to USA specification, they were NOT convertibles. As adaptations from .45 wheel guns, they CAN be provided with a second cylinder in the original caliber. If it lets go in your face, you never read this post.

24 posted on 05/10/2009 4:53:40 PM PDT by norton
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To: mylife
And I like propeller planes ;)

Suit yourself. Propellers are for boats. ;-)

25 posted on 05/10/2009 4:54:08 PM PDT by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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To: MileHi
thx... i'd love to see them in the hammerless S&W Airweight too.
26 posted on 05/10/2009 4:54:23 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: humblegunner
hey HEY HEY!!!

Haven't you started enough trouble?

{:0)

27 posted on 05/10/2009 4:54:41 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: mylife

Actually revolvers can and do jam. I still like them but they are probably no longer more reliable than the better quality autos.

At one time they were.


28 posted on 05/10/2009 4:56:24 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: mylife

They should make that in .45, ever with a full moon clip.


29 posted on 05/10/2009 4:56:25 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: humblegunner
Maybe its a boatplane wise guy!


30 posted on 05/10/2009 4:56:35 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: MileHi
Haven't you started enough trouble?

Probably.

Time to take a ride & start grilling.

31 posted on 05/10/2009 4:57:13 PM PDT by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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To: humblegunner

“Are we to go back to propeller airplanes as well? “

Prop planes and wheel guns...works for me.


32 posted on 05/10/2009 4:57:22 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: MileHi

Recoil would be brutal. It already is in .38


33 posted on 05/10/2009 4:58:05 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: yarddog

I like them both.


34 posted on 05/10/2009 4:59:02 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
They never jam.

Neither has my Glock!

But then.. I treat it so delicately, don't you know!! ;-)

35 posted on 05/10/2009 4:59:14 PM PDT by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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To: norton

Right, and S&W too. They most all needed clips, not a bad thing.


36 posted on 05/10/2009 4:59:24 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: humblegunner

Yup!


37 posted on 05/10/2009 4:59:59 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: MileHi
ever with

or EVEN with...

38 posted on 05/10/2009 5:00:33 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: mylife

I suppose a ported “K” frame version.


39 posted on 05/10/2009 5:04:01 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: humblegunner

Propellers are for boats
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Antique boats. The rest use an impeller.


40 posted on 05/10/2009 5:06:18 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: MileHi

Then you may as well use .45L


41 posted on 05/10/2009 5:06:44 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: omega4179

I have a first model S&W Hand Ejector Dated 1894 chambered for .45ACP in half moon clips. they also made .45AR which did not require the clips. Thus gun with a 6.5 barrel is very accurate for a service revolver.
If you prefer revolvers, I would opt for the 9mm as a military caliber might be able to scrounge ammo if the hard times we bitter people are preparing for occur. I have no experience with Charter Arms however.
barbra ann


42 posted on 05/10/2009 5:13:24 PM PDT by barb-tex (Republic of Texas will include all of the Confederacy, except Maybe VA.)
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To: mylife

>45 Colt? No, you don’t need a frame that big. The Charter Bulldog is a long time popular snubby. Just hard and expensive to get ammo for. The .45 auto is much more common and punches hard without being punishing.

I don’t advocate or detract Charter, I had a .38 snubby and it was serviceable. S&W could surely make a nice version of this too if they saw a market.


43 posted on 05/10/2009 5:18:11 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi

I dont know a lot about wheelguns


44 posted on 05/10/2009 5:20:18 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Ha!
If that’s chambered in .357 I bet you don’t put a box of 50 through it, on any single range visit!?!?

My Dad had one and one wheel full was enough for my index finger, thank you very much!

He carried it fishing in bear country, but I’m thinking you’d never get the 2nd shot on target, before the bear was on you.


45 posted on 05/10/2009 5:29:22 PM PDT by G Larry (Obama's plan = "STEALING FROM THOSE WHO CREATE THE JOBS!")
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To: G Larry

.38 special. It kicks like a mule with 158 grain wadcutters!


46 posted on 05/10/2009 5:32:20 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife; barb-tex

See post #42. barb-tex has a very fine version. Later S&W versions were 4” but I don’t recall any smaller frame snubbies. I belive hers is 6 shots, the charter is 5 and so some smaller in girth. And no clips. That may or may not be a plus. Clips make good speed loaders.


47 posted on 05/10/2009 5:36:25 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: mylife

Sure they do. A squib load that doesn’t make it beyond the forcing cone or a high primer are just two of the ways they can.

Jam goes on bread.


48 posted on 05/10/2009 5:37:40 PM PDT by Troy McGreggor
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To: Troy McGreggor

Yeah. I had a squib load do that to me.
But that is defective ammo.


49 posted on 05/10/2009 5:38:55 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: MileHi

Thanks


50 posted on 05/10/2009 5:42:50 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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