Skip to comments.Christian Symposium Offers Different Take on Aliens at Roswell UFO Festival
Posted on 05/12/2009 6:58:19 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
ROSWELL, New Mexico, May 12 /Christian Newswire/ -- Alien Resistance, a Christian counter-cult outreach ministry, will hold an all-Christian-speaker Symposium on aliens during the annual Roswell UFO Festival July 3-5th, 2009. The 11 participants include 4 PhDs, 2 doctorates of ministry, 2 pastors, 2 ordained ministers, and several pastoral counselors, with 12 books written between them on the UFO/Alien topic. The Symposium will educate on the UFO/alien topic from a Biblical Christian perspective, with emphasis on counter-cult evangelism, creationism, and spiritual warfare. The event is free for the public to attend, and will be held at the Best Western Sally Port Inn Ballroom. Tens of thousands of people interested in the UFO/Alien topic are expected to attend the Roswell UFO/Alien Festival this year.
Organizers assert that, "From a Biblical Christian perspective it becomes clear that 'aliens' are actually the evil spirits of the Bible. This idea is backed up experientially with the evidence of numerous testimonies of 'abductees', which show that 'alien abduction' experiences stop in the name and authority of Jesus Christ. Also the sinful behaviors of the 'aliens' behind abductions, the false gospels and new age messages they proclaim, and their supernatural powers so very reminiscent of those described in the Bible as being had by angels, all adds up to make clear that 'aliens' are in fact the evil spirits of the Bible."
Participants will include: William Alnor Ph.D., author of "UFOs in the New Age" and "UFO Cults in the New Millennium"; Gary Bates, from Creation Ministries International Australia, author of "Alien Intrusion: UFOs and the Evolution Connection"; Mike Bennett Ph.D., demonology researcher and host of "FutureQuake" Nashville-based Christian FM talk radio program; Pastor Russ Dizdar, Cult and Occult survivors specialist and deliverance minister; Joe Jordan O.M., alien abduction researcher and deliverance minister; Michael S. Heiser Ph.D., doctor in Hebrew Bible and Semitic Languages and author of "The Facade"; Guy Malone, author of "UFO Phenomena and the Bible"; Mrs. Malone, author of "A Modern Guide to Demons and Fallen Angels"; L.A. Marzulli D.Min., author of "Politics, Prophecy, and the Supernatural"; Pastor Chris Ward D.Min., deliverance minister and author of "Case Files of an Internet Exorcist"; and Stephen Yulish Ph.D., author of "The Real Story of UFOs."
Oh God, not The Shunning! Please, I'll do anything! In the name of humanity, not The Shunning!
Any info, pictures or such you can share without getting him in trouble?
Have already shared as much as I can. And, really about all he knew.
He did not work on such craft. More adjacent to them.
What's your proof? No carnival barking, either, but tangible proof.
You’ll just have to enjoy your TYPE II ERROR addiction until one lands in your lap and castrates you, evidently.
BTW, There have been quite a number of posts here and on ATS about tangible PROOF from trace landing cases etc.
You WILLFULLLY REFUSE TO TREAT THE SOLID EVIDENCE FAIR-MINDEDLY OR THE LEAST BIT SCIENTIFICALLY.
Oh no! I might get ignored by the nut brigade! I'm shakingggggggggggggg.
This isn't clear to me; and, I've been Bible-centric for 59 years.
I'm pretty sure that ETs are just part of the larger family.
The righteous shall live by faith.
I'm puzzled by your response. Are you implying that flying saucers should be taken by faith?
No common sense is the enemy of faith.
/mark for later
I'm still confused. What does it mean in the context of someone like myself who is a skeptic concerning flying saucers?
I am just pointing out one of God’s principals. We live by faith not by our common sense. You seem to have pride in your common sense. Both common sense and pride have their problems. Faith looks outward to God and common sense looks inward to self. Quix has faith in God, I know this by his fruits. We believe in the rapture and an end time one world government. UFOs, ETs and principalities and powers in the air may not make common sense but could in fact be tools of Satan in these end times. I definitely am not quick to dismiss Quix and what God is revealing to him.
I’m sure your losing sleep along with the occasional ‘probe’.
So the answer is no, we just have to trust you.
There are thousands of reports of engineered craft. LVD has a link that I plan to post but am still feeling thoroughly . . . drained . . . for good reason.
My relative just confirmed, for me, at that time . . . some decades ago . . . what I’d already studied and believed about at least the bulk of what’s commonly seen being engineered craft.
I’m just a watchman on the wall. Folks can pray and ask God to confirm; do their own research with prayerful open minds . . . or walk on by . . . however they see fit.
Thanks for your kind words.
Actually, it is impossible to live without some measure and type of faith.
JoJo has faith the other cars will stop at a red light. . . . most of the time. Watches for the exceptions.
JoJo seems to have tons of faith that his addiction to so EXTREMELY ON ONE END avoiding all hint of a TYPE I ERROR . . . while being seemingly blind to how unalterably that virtually insures he will be bit by a TYPE II ERROR on the topic. That’s IRRATIONAL faith.
Then you haven’t researched enough.
Check out Genesis 6; The Book of Enoch . . . I never remember the Alamo-Girl’s recommended version. Sigh. Sorry.
Get Guy Malone’s excellent most recent crop of DVD’s . . . then let me know if you are still of the same opinion.
However, the only thing you need to know . . . is that ALL the various races of ET’s currently dinking with earth are IN BEHALF OF SETTING UP THE SATANIC GLOBAL GOVERNMENT.
Which word is too hard to understand about that?
I suppose so.
The hoaxter mentality, from where I’ve sat studying it since 1960 . . . has been much more on the side of the naysayers.
swamp gas. Sheesh.
One has to be EXTREMELY loose with Scriptural interpretaton in order to believe ETs are discussed in any context. I simply do not prescribe to the notion that one has to jump through hoops in order to understand Scripture.
I won't let others think for me; and, I have no trust in the clergy. Especially those who tell me they are specially qualified to interpret for me.
Basically it means they want to tell you what to think.
Under pure Christian Doctrine, logic is the enemy of Faith. Logic is a form of common sense, isn't it?
You and I have sparred on other threads, to and fro, so to speak. I am most concerned about those who would dictate what you aught to think. Those who shrug and say, "beats me", seem to be the most thoughtful.
Personally, I just don't buy the crap about ETs being Satan's minions. I think ETs are part of the family. This I base on the idea that God Created us out of love, both as an object of love and a source of love. Why would be build such an immense neighborhood, and then populate only one backwater planet on the rim of nowhere?
Be advised, this is just my humble theory. I've been studying this stuff since the late 1970s. There seem to be good ETs and bad ETs, just like with people. As luck would have it, it would appear our esteemed leaders are working with the wrong team. Just like everything else they do, right?
Shouldn't I? Or should I try to be more like leftists and denizens of mental wards, and throw critical thinking to the wind?
Oh well, I don't mix space aliens with religion, though some of you New Age types do. When hoaxters claim that space aliens are vandalizing farmland or buggering helpless souls at three in the morning, and it's Satan's bidding, I want concrete proof.
That’s one of the things that’s increasingly getting me about the carnival barkers who keep shopping the nonsense of space aliens coming through the walls to see if you have anal warts.
Why don’t those supposedly advanced bug eyed freaks look over your lungs instead? How abut they cure your losing your hearing from old age? Fix your eyesight? Heart? Cure cancer?
But no, they’re only interested in your behind?! And they’re third world amateurish at staying out of sight.
I have a lot of sympathy with that perspective.
However, Genesis 6 speaks of nephilium/fallen angels/watchers.
Evidently those with bodies on earth given war tools to man and sleeping with human women
REALLY angered God a LOT.
He wiped that bunch out in Noah’s flood where they lost their bodies and became demons seeking what or whomever they could inhabit.
Not all the 1/3 fallen angels were in that bunch. Evidently plenty were still zipping around in space etc. and have been plaguing the earth with various nefarious schemes building toward the END TIMES world government for millenia.
. . . setting up the GREAT DECEPTION . . . so great, that were it possible, the very elect would be deceived.
. . . and . . . again . . . there’s that giving war making technologies to man and having sex with humans . . .
other than the immorality of that, there seems to be something specific about it that outrages God.
Some speculated that before Christ, they were busy trying to pollute the gene pool so that the perfect Savior could not be born. No one seems to know what they are up to with their hybridizing program now.
. . . . unless it’s trying to shoe-horn in on the soul aspect of humans for some reason.
The things in Scripture necessary for establishing and maintaining a relationship with God are quite simple enough.
Yet, some things God deliberately hid to be dug out with much study. GOD DID THAT.
Then at some point, you have to explain to yourself . . .
what these “good, nice, wonderful ET’s . . .
who, incidentally . . . mutilate humans just like they do cattle—with the human alive without anesthetic as long as possible . . . force sex on humans . . . take babies from mothers’ wombs at the end of the first trimester . . . etc. etc. etc.
. . . at some point, I hope you’d see the need to explain to yourself . . .
what these WONDERFULLY NICE ET’s are doing helping satan set up and maintain a very tyrannical, ruthless, demonized world government predicted in Scripture . . . and along the way . . . declaring that they bio-engineered Jesus (and staged his miracles with technology) and all other religious figures of history for social engineering purposes etc. etc.
Paul said that if an angel from Heaven came preaching any other Gospel, he must be considered accursed.
That verse does NOT take knowledge of Greek to understand quite plainly.
JoJo, you KNOW I’m not at all New Age in my orientation.
There have been examples of their curing lung diseases and cancers on their ‘cattle’ . . . lab rats . . . humans.
Pontificating without awareness of the literature is a weak position to write from, JOJO.
If you are 100% convinced that some future NOW will not have the least bit of a negative consequence for you in this whole topic area . . . I guess we have nothing else to offer you.
So, you think those are the "good ones"? I take that bunch as the ET equivalent to Muslims or something. There are very rotton humans who mulilate other humans using various sorts of instruments. Those folks aren't demons or anything of the supernatural sort. It follows that the same traits humans exhibit are sure to be exhibited by ET races. Surely you follow that parallel.
Now, for Genesis: It says, "The sons of God"..." That does not say "angels", or any of the other terms you applied. Jesus is referred to in exactly the same way. This tells me that there is a lot more to the story that isn't in the Bible. The Bible isn't a Universal Cookbook of The Universe". It is dedicated to the mission of Christ. People who read outside of that are in for some surprises.
If space aliens are here in supposedly such numbers then why haven't they set up their own little Mayo Clinic? Why haven't they brought us cures to many things, instead of being so Freudianly obsessed with our bungholes? Why don't they obsess with the sphincters of alley cats or salmon?
And don't say anything nonsensical like "Prime Directive", because they're pathetically backwards in the art of camouflage.
I don’t think that we’ve “sparred”, or at least I can’t remember it, because you seem to have a religious belief that’s tempered, unlike so many of the New Age’ers who don’t know or care that some of their sources include tarot card readers and psychics and astrologers, etc. Flying saucers have been mixed in with all the other historically questionable stuff.
What’s next - the Grey’s phone sex hotline?
I’ll to a degreee agree with you that aliens are part of the family. I think that they’re Freudian abstractions, wants, desires, for the same reason a Superman or a Wonder Woman was created. Sadly, the mentally disturbed have co-opted some of it, such as the late night proctology sessions, the kidnapping of fetuses, etc.
Not sure where the communications break down is occurring.
Let me say again as simply as I know how:
I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ANY
of the 57, 70, 90 whatever number of races of “ET’s” fallen angels/ nephilium/ watchers . . .
are GOOD. NONE OF THEM.
PRIMARILY, SCRIPTURE EXHORTS US TO CONSIDER SUCH CRITTERS ACCURSED BECAUSE:
They are NOT NICE BECAUSE THEY PREACH A DIFFERENT GOSPEL AND NEUTER CHRIST’S DEITY WHOLESALE.
2ND because they are clearly in cahoots with satan toward setting up and maintaining the AntiChrist’s one world government as predicted in Scripture.
That’s the bottom line.
In addition, they are NOT NICE in their normal treatment of humans. Sometimes they will be nice in the way a farmer may be nice to the calf he’s going to butcher but that’s a bit of a different definition of nice.
Even government types who work around them exclaim about how they chronically LIE, LIE, LIE. Why the government has ever trusted them about anything is beyond me.
It appears that you have a very sizeable NEED to construe these critters as NICE. I hope you get over it. IT’s UNBIBLICAL and spiritually eternally dangerous.
They may well do so on condition of humans accepting sterilization and the computer Mark of the Beast chip implant.
JoJo, I’m sorry . . . I like several things about you . . . including your pluck.
However, your assertions are soooooo extremely askew from hard learned reality, I’m not sure I have much to offer you nor much left to enjoy in the exchanges—particularly when you tend to be so arbitrarily and willfully blind to so much evidence.
Just how I see it.
I might be if all the other folks hop aboard the “mother ship” thinking it’s “something wonderful” ....:)
[close the pod bay door, HAL]
The greys stink. There are others that do not "rub butts" with the Feds, so the Feds wouldn't know so much about them. Then again, our own government is LIES, LIES, LIES. How is that different from ETs?
The point I am making is that ETs do not seem any more evil to me than humans. We are just as much a demon species as any ET I've read about. Why assign ETs some special significance just because they know more about physics than we do?
They are NOT NICE BECAUSE THEY PREACH A DIFFERENT GOSPEL AND NEUTER CHRISTS DEITY WHOLESALE.
My experience with the clergy does not give me any confidence in some "Direct From God" status of the Bible. After all, it was the clergy that was the "keeper" of the scrolls for a very long time. They have a vested interest in dictating what we believe because our billfolds follow us into church each Sunday.
Furthermore, I can read the Bible myself. I can tell you that not a single passage in it makes me believe the ETs and demons/Nephilim/etc connection. It is a total stretch of language to make that so.
Ya see, Quix, this is more of the stuff which gives me trouble about the flying saucer movement. It has way too much human fears woven into it. And why would space aliens be so worried about our being sterilized? Aren't we supposed to be carrying their babies for them?
He gives every sign of gearing up for a LOT of UFO disclosure—of course, furthering the GREAT DECEPTION.
I may not have anything else to help you with, then.
It appears that your mind is thoroughly convinced of your own construction on reality.
You have been warned of the realities involved and their eternal implications. My hands are clean.
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