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Students sue for tuition parity with California illegals
Washington Times ^ | 5-14-09 | Nedra Pickler

Posted on 05/14/2009 11:34:31 AM PDT by JZelle

Students from 19 states yesterday filed a class-action lawsuit seeking hundreds of millions of dollars from California officials for charging them significantly more than illegal aliens pay to attend state-run colleges.

The 42 plaintiffs say California state lawmakers and the University of California board of regents knowingly violated a federal law enacted in 1996 that says any state that offers discounted in-state tuition to its illegal aliens must provide the same lower rates to all U.S. citizens.

California has a "unique" statute barring discrimination on the basis of geographic origin, said lead attorney Michael J. Brady.

Some students in the University of California system could be eligible for as much as $300,000 in total damages, he said.

The plaintiffs' attorneys say the lawsuit was filed in a state court in Yolo County on behalf of about 60,000 U.S. citizens who have paid out-of-state tuition to attend public higher-education institutions in California since 2002.

Mr. Brady said out-of-state students are paying $20,000 more than illegal aliens per year to attend schools in the University of California system. In the California state university system, the difference is $11,000 per year.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Education; Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; caleducation; college; discrimination; dreamact; illegalaliens; illegals; immigrantlist; instatetuition; ucregents
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To: JZelle

A lot of good FReepers live here in CA, including our founder. While I am sure we all support this lawsuit, it’s a huge, depressing SIGH for us as we will be bled once more.

If only the UC had just NOT admitted illegals, and taken a few more of these out-of-staters paying out of state tuition. DUH. Why must we always suck everything up for lousy illegals who don’t love this country, don’t care about this country, and are only here for the freebies?? Every which way we turn, we are accosted to pay for these freeloaders, and NO ONE WILL PUBLICLY ADMIT IT.

When can we ever turn around this sinking state? WHEN?


21 posted on 05/14/2009 12:03:00 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: JZelle

Wow! About time someone did this. Perhaps the only way to get the idiotic liberals to see the stupidity of their policies is to air them out in court. I sure hope they win.


22 posted on 05/14/2009 12:03:57 PM PDT by PLKIng
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To: JZelle

This post just made my day.


23 posted on 05/14/2009 12:07:17 PM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution - Tar & Feathers, The New Look for Spring '09)
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To: JZelle

Go get ‘em mush brains!


24 posted on 05/14/2009 12:10:12 PM PDT by devistate one four (I will run to the sound of gunfire! TET68)
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To: JZelle

The suit is going nowhere unless the supreme court hears it. Even then, I am not sure how the supreme court will rule. The issue is standing. Past courts have thrown out the suit on claims that students have no standing. If the students do not have standing, who has standing? Standing only impedes conservatives when seeking redress. Liberals never worry about standing even when they clearly are not directly involved. The disaster of the environmental laws is largely attributed to granting standing to groups that should not have standing.


25 posted on 05/14/2009 12:11:05 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: KarlInOhio
a federal law enacted in 1996 that says any state that offers discounted in-state tuition to its illegal aliens must provide the same lower rates to all U.S. citizens

I have not read the legislation, but the excerpt reads that they have to charge the exact same, whether state residents or not.

26 posted on 05/14/2009 12:11:31 PM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013)
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To: JZelle

...laughs....


27 posted on 05/14/2009 12:12:35 PM PDT by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: rabscuttle385
Mr. Brady said administrators of the University of California system also recognized that the state law was invalid, and they refused to implement it unless they were "given immunity." As a result, he said, California lawmakers enacted an "immunity statute," which says that if the state tuition law is declared illegal or unconstitutional, schools in the University of California system would not be held liable for retroactive tuition differences.

In other words, "We know we're guilty but shouldn't be held accountable."

Meanwhile, they pay themselves 1/2 million a year. Scumbags.

28 posted on 05/14/2009 12:19:05 PM PDT by calcowgirl (RECALL Abel Maldonado! - NO on Props 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F)
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To: JZelle

<board of regents knowingly violated a federal law enacted in 1996 that says any state that offers discounted in-state tuition to its illegal aliens must provide the same lower rates to all U.S. citizens.

Whoa! Who knew? Well, obviously not the Regents. This is some stuff. Unfortunately, I think the students’ case falls under a question asked in one of my first law school classes -
Q. What is a judgment worth?
A. Nothing if you can’t collect on it. (While other students struggled with what seemed a trick question, my hand shot up right away. My step-father was a litigator and I learned the difference between winning and recovery early in life.)

Considering Kali’s current financial state, I don’t know the extent to which students can recover, but good luck to them!


29 posted on 05/14/2009 12:19:59 PM PDT by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: rjsimmon
My point is that the federal law's penalty is probably just the loss of federal aid rather than some other punishment, just as there was no law which required states to have a 55 MPH speed limit - they would just lose highway funds if they didn't have it. What are the odds that the Obama administration will actually remove a state's college funds for charging out of state students more than illegals? Pretty darn close to zero unless a federal judge is hitting them with a gavel.
30 posted on 05/14/2009 12:20:09 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (No free man bows to a foreign king.)
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To: Yaelle

“A lot of good FReepers live here in CA, including our founder. While I am sure we all support this lawsuit, it’s a huge, depressing SIGH for us as we will be bled once more.”

I sympathize... Maybe FReepers/conservatives should do what the Libertarians planned: get a certain number to commit to moving to a state to take over & show what can be done when gov’t is done correctly. How about Idaho? ;-)


31 posted on 05/14/2009 12:21:45 PM PDT by Twotone
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To: JZelle

As another poster said it’s from 2005..too bad. Much ado about nothing. It is a good idea that should be tried again.


32 posted on 05/14/2009 12:22:00 PM PDT by LeavingNewYork
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To: KarlInOhio

Excellent point. The salient point of the law would be the loss of federal funds, but you are spot-on WRT the 0’s administration actually following through on upholding law. They appear to be circumventing laws at a cyclic rate.


33 posted on 05/14/2009 12:23:11 PM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013)
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To: JZelle

HA! Good for them.


34 posted on 05/14/2009 12:29:34 PM PDT by bboop (obama, little o, not a Real God)
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To: JZelle

Ah yes, but can these 42 guarantee that at least 90% of them will vote democrat as the illegals will when they are suddenly pronounced citizens?


35 posted on 05/14/2009 12:37:07 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: All

I guess it will all hinge on the definition of the word “resident”.

Stand by for word plays...


36 posted on 05/14/2009 1:38:51 PM PDT by az_gila (AZ - need less democrats - one Governor down... more to go.)
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To: budda1954; admin

Good eye and I apologize for not catching that. The article is posted in today’s Washington Times Metro section like it’s current news. That website is so screwed up!

Admin, I guess this thread should be pulled. Sorry for the oversight.


37 posted on 05/14/2009 2:11:48 PM PDT by JZelle
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To: JZelle

Can’t complain about this...maybe they will change the law so illegal aliens should pay the normal price on their own dime.


38 posted on 05/14/2009 2:45:04 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://www.americasupportsyou.mil/)
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To: JZelle

lol, the comments have been disablled for this article....wonder why


39 posted on 05/14/2009 11:12:28 PM PDT by television is just wrong (one bad ass mistake America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: JZelle

Excellent! Go get the pandering scumbags. Sue California blind.
(...Although it’s a shame that California’s minority of decent, traditional, taxpaying conservative Americans will be forced to pay for the foibles of the idiocracy elected by California’s majority of Democrat scumbags and morons.)


40 posted on 05/14/2009 11:18:30 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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