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Former fundamentalist 'debunks' Bible
cnn ^ | May 15, 2009

Posted on 05/15/2009 12:18:43 PM PDT by JoeProBono

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To: MHGinTN
"His claims, though, take on some of Christianity's most sacred tenets, like the resurrection of Jesus. Ehrman says he doesn't think the resurrection took place. There's no proof Jesus physically rose from the dead, and the resurrection stories contradict one another, he says."

Thanks for the ping.

This poor fellow cannot even be considered an amateur.

151 posted on 05/16/2009 11:16:36 PM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: TBP
Here are the origins of the truths you seem so reluctant to accept and have in fact tried to dissemble by selective omission, quoting a clause out of context for what follows immediately upon what you quoted in order to dissemble and thus deceive. Jesus is The Word, and Jesus is The Life, and Jesus IS the Light. It is you who have sought to use 'creative interpretation' ...

The Gospel of John, Chapter One:

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

...

152 posted on 05/17/2009 9:39:02 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: tajgirvan
The poster asserted: "This is forced overinterpretation. There is nothing to suggest that that verse refers in any way to Jesus."

If satan wants to convey a lie, he usually starts with a small piece of truth and places his lie in that isolated context, just as the poster TBP has done in asserting 'there is nothing to suggest that that' verse refers in any way to Jesus. By purposely not posting the verses which follow, the servant of a lie seeks to ignore that the Bible is its own best commentary and deny the power of truth by omitting that which does not fit the poster's desired deceit.

153 posted on 05/17/2009 9:45:22 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I agree. I wonder why he did not answer my question about the Trinity? Simple enough but revealing at the sametime. May the Lord bless you this fine Sabbath, dear FRiend.


154 posted on 05/17/2009 11:07:35 AM PDT by tajgirvan (Please Pray for Baby Gavin,Freeper Flightline,Dan & Megan Injured in a Car Accident)
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To: tajgirvan

Tis a beautiful Sunday here in the foothills of the Appalachians.


155 posted on 05/17/2009 11:09:34 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

And you dance around my simple question. It’s ok, I don’t really have any desire to discuss with you, since you don’t seem sincere about this.


156 posted on 05/17/2009 1:34:32 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: TBP

And of course, you are smarter than everyone else! LOL
I imply nothing. I believe. It’s that simple. You don’t, and so you contort yourself to try to make that logical. Have at it. My only job is to be a witness. What you make of that is your business. And God’s.


157 posted on 05/17/2009 1:39:35 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: brytlea
And you dance around my simple question.

It's a simple question with no single answer. How about I find another person who calls himself Christian to answer you. I wonder if his answer will agree with yours.

158 posted on 05/17/2009 2:25:52 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: brytlea

“...Yet you do not have because you do not ask... Therefore I say to you, whatever things you ask when you pray, believe that you receive them, and you will have them.” - James 4:2, Mark 11:24


159 posted on 05/17/2009 3:27:24 PM PDT by TBP
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To: MHGinTN
Tis a beautiful Sunday here in the foothills of the Appalachians.

You are truly blessed! I am getting use to the Georgia's humidity and it's beautiful trees and birds! But I miss my California Foothills too.

" God's Ways are not our ways"... Isaiah 55:8 tajgirvan version!

160 posted on 05/17/2009 3:54:02 PM PDT by tajgirvan (Please Pray for Baby Gavin,Freeper Flightline,Dan & Megan Injured in a Car Accident)
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To: TBP

You still have Not answered my question about your belief in the Trinity. May I ask it again? Do you believe in God, the Father, Jesus, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are One? Are you a Christian? I think it is a fair question. I am praying for you T. I believe you need it. We all need each other’s prayers and compassion.


161 posted on 05/17/2009 4:06:52 PM PDT by tajgirvan (Please Pray for Baby Gavin,Freeper Flightline,Dan & Megan Injured in a Car Accident)
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To: texmexis best
Late to the thread as usual -- stumbled upon this looking for something else.

I haven't read any N.T. Wright but he has been recommended by some VERY intelligent friends.

From what I've heard, I must concur.

Cheers!

162 posted on 03/01/2010 4:41:57 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

He writes in a way that is easily understood, even the more sophisticated theology is made very clear to the readers.

He also trashes heresy in a way that is frequently funny and witty. I highly recommend him for everyone.

A very good, entertaining and edifying read.


163 posted on 03/01/2010 7:25:06 AM PST by texmexis best
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To: TBP
I guess this came from the forged/made up portion?

John 1:14
14And (A)the Word (B)became flesh, and (C)dwelt among us, and (D)we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of (E)grace and (F)truth.

164 posted on 03/01/2010 8:34:49 AM PST by Jay Thomas (A thankful prostate cancer survivor!!! Praise be to Jesus Christ!!!!!)
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To: MHGinTN

Darn, you beat me to it...


165 posted on 03/01/2010 8:36:36 AM PST by Jay Thomas (A thankful prostate cancer survivor!!! Praise be to Jesus Christ!!!!!)
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To: JoeProBono

Only a total idiot could think that forgery could be “an important body of work.”

Bart, your meds are ready...


166 posted on 03/01/2010 8:39:29 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: DonaldC
"I will have to read more on this latest book"

Don't you have something more rewarding to do, like cleaning out a grease trap, or a cesspool?

167 posted on 03/01/2010 8:41:27 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: editor-surveyor

168 posted on 03/01/2010 8:42:32 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Friendofgeorge

Sounds like he did his PhD under Warren....


169 posted on 03/01/2010 8:45:09 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: JoeProBono

He has been decisively rebutted so many times, yet keeps repeating himself.

It’s not about facts or truth.


170 posted on 03/01/2010 8:48:22 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: JoeProBono

Just noticed the date on this - Time Warp?


171 posted on 03/01/2010 8:52:24 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: BibChr

Graywiskers dragged this up from the graveyard of idiocy.

(chech the date)


172 posted on 03/01/2010 8:53:54 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: Jay Thomas

Well, several Biblical experts will tell you that most of what is in John, Jesus didn’t say.


173 posted on 03/12/2010 10:54:06 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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