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Revenge of the Tweenage Girls: Kris Wins Idol
Clearly Nebulous Love Hate Oprah.com ^ | May 20, 2009 | Colette Moran

Posted on 05/20/2009 8:54:44 PM PDT by CMoran325

Newsweek speculated that there was a Christian voting bloc that would affect the outcome of the American Idol finale -- and others pondered that there  might be an anti-gay backlash against Adam. (Although no one but he knows for sure what his true inclinations are...)

I'm not going to suggest that there wasn't a whole bunch of conservative folks voting for Kris -- I'm certain there were, considering that Idol is one of the few shows that (for the most part) is family friendly and appeals to all ages. But honestly that would be a "Pro-Kris" vote, not an "Anti-Adam" vote.

Adam obviously was the more talented singer, with much greater range, and was more of a flamboyant showman. We know there is a contingent out there that likes that sort of performance -- David Cook was the more edgy performer and he prevailed. (Although that, arguably, may have been Revenge of the Rockers, inspired by the early exit of Chris Daughtry the previous season.)

But Kris was more universally appealing, and he also performed on both guitar and piano. When he was done with a song, everyone in the room could at least say -- well, that was nice, and often even more. With Adam, as much as I admired his vocal talents, I often fast-forwarded through the last minute of his performances. It was all too much, and I'm sure there were many others who felt that same way. And many were probably baffled by some of his performances. ("Ring of Fire" anyone?!)

But I truly believe that the tipping point for this contest had to be the female tweenage fans of the show. They were heart-broken last season when David Archuleta lost to the more talented edgy guy, and they were NOT going to let it happen this time! What else did they have to do last night? I would venture that many dialed, got through, hit flash, hit redial, got through, flash, redial, got through, flash, redial... For four... straight... hours.

In one way that bothered me this season -- that more talented singers were losing out to a teen heart-throb. But if that's what it took for the underdog -- the wholesome, came-out-of-nowhere boy next door -- to defeat the affectatious darling of the entertainment crowd and the media... Well, so be it. And maybe today's youth isn't as dumb as I thought.

Adam will still be huge. He didn't need to win. Plus, he can console himself: He never has to sing that "No Boundaries" song ever again!

Congratulations, Kris! May your career shine as brightly as your smile, and your life be filled with even more of the joy that is apparent with your wife and family.

 



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KEYWORDS: adam; americanidol; idol; kris
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Let's celebrate Kris and not bash Adam -- other than to mock the ridiculous KISS performance outfit and the *RHINESTONE* eyeliner!

And can someone please make that YouTube video link active? I forget how, and I have to get to bed!

1 posted on 05/20/2009 8:54:44 PM PDT by CMoran325
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To: CMoran325

I don’t think he’s gay. I used to wear eye-liner cuz hot chicks who wrote poetry liked it. My grampa did not.


2 posted on 05/20/2009 8:57:38 PM PDT by exist
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To: CMoran325

American Idle


3 posted on 05/20/2009 8:59:28 PM PDT by wastedyears (Iron Maiden's gonna get ya, no matter how far!)
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To: CMoran325

I can happily and honestly say that I’ve never in my life watched a minute of this show.


4 posted on 05/20/2009 9:01:07 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: CMoran325

I think some parents are going to be shocked at their cell phone bill’s this month...those texting charges add up..


5 posted on 05/20/2009 9:01:49 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: exist

Well, he definitely is into boys because there are pix of him with his tongue in some other guy’s mouth. I’m pretty sure that isn’t heterosexual behavior. He also likes to dress like a woman.

So there’s that.

BUT he seems to be a very nice guy, and he was very gracious to Kris when he lost. Kris was flabbergasted.


6 posted on 05/20/2009 9:03:16 PM PDT by Shelayne (Lord, come quickly!)
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To: CMoran325

I think Chris Daughtry was season 5, so Daughtry was actually two years previous to Cook, who won season 7.


7 posted on 05/20/2009 9:03:49 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: exist

Um. You don’t think Adam is gay? You haven’t seen the photos or videos?


8 posted on 05/20/2009 9:04:47 PM PDT by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: exist

Take a look at these pictures:

http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&hl=en&q=adam+lambert+gay&sa=N&start=0&ndsp=18


9 posted on 05/20/2009 9:06:41 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: CMoran325
Newsweek speculated that there was a Christian voting bloc that would affect the outcome of the American Idol finale

I guess Newsweek heard Obama say that this wasn't a Christian nation.

10 posted on 05/20/2009 9:06:47 PM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: CMoran325

‘Newsweek speculated that there was a Christian voting bloc ‘that would affect the outcome of the American Idol finale”

Has Newsweek notified the Dept of Homeland Security about this?


11 posted on 05/20/2009 9:08:10 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: Pinkbell

Yeah, I’ve seen some of the pictures.

Who knows? The guy seems so pre-packaged it could all be part of his attempt at “mystique”!

Adam is talented, but ultimately headed for work as an opening act for the gamut of the likes of Patti LaBelle and Axel Rose and all the other “vocal divas”.

Kris was a breath of fresh air. Good luck to him.


12 posted on 05/20/2009 9:14:33 PM PDT by CMoran325
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To: exist

Your grandfather didn’t like it because he understood that real men don’t wear eyeliner.


13 posted on 05/20/2009 9:30:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: FlJoePa

same here so I can’t really comment on the show but quite a few FReepers seem to enjoy it each week. maybe I will tune in some time to see what it is all about.


14 posted on 05/20/2009 9:36:58 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: exist
I don’t think he’s gay. I used to wear eye-liner cuz hot chicks who wrote poetry liked it. My grampa did not.

Be glad you haven't seen the pictures that are floating all over the 'net.... you will lose your lunch (unless you actually like two guys making out...).

15 posted on 05/20/2009 9:41:57 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: CMoran325

And I don’t buy the “tweenage” votes being the deciding factor - I know plenty of that age group who absolutely LOVE Adam, and from posts on AI-related message boards - they loved him all over the country as well.

And on the flip side of that - my wife and many of our friends - all WAY past tweenage years - voted like mad for Kris Alen.

And according to the official numbers from AT&T - over 38 million votes were cast just from Arkansas (and they said they were extremely heavy for Kris). So the loyalty of his homes state probably made more difference than the “tweenage” vote.


16 posted on 05/20/2009 9:45:14 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: CMoran325

It’s that Kiss performance that made me glad he didn’t win.


17 posted on 05/20/2009 9:45:28 PM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: TheBattman

One thing that was very telling about who was going to win, that no one seemed to pick up on, was when there were three contestants left, Adam, Kris, and Danny, and they all went back to their hometowns to sing and greet the people.

The people who turned out for Kris were unbelievably huge in number! Heads as far as the eye could see! It was easily twice the number Danny got and hardly anyone came out to see Adam! He was in a football field at his old school and there were just a small number of girls there.


18 posted on 05/20/2009 9:48:49 PM PDT by deannadurbin
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To: deannadurbin

I was there in Conway (Kris’ hometown) when he came back that week! Was an absolute madhouse!!! Probably the most people that town has ever seen in one place!


19 posted on 05/20/2009 9:50:39 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: CMoran325

“The guy seems so pre-packaged it could all be part of his attempt at “mystique”!”


Mystique? I don’t kiss another guy to build a mysitque.

Would you?


20 posted on 05/20/2009 9:51:43 PM PDT by GreyMountainReagan (Liberals do not view the book 1984 as a warning but as a textbook.)
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To: CMoran325
...that Idol is one of the few shows that (for the most part) is family friendly...

Not tonight it wasn't. Pretty sleazy and family hostile I'd say, including a censored cutaway, on-stage stripping, etc. Borderline for children.

21 posted on 05/20/2009 9:51:44 PM PDT by MCH
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To: CMoran325

I have nothing against Adam.. he seems plenty nice and very talented.

But the way the judges GUSHED over him....like he was the MESSIAH or something...sorta reminded me of the last time the “judges” (media) shoved someone down our throats.

Like why should we even trouble our pretty heads when the smart ones have it all figured out for us?

I am THRILLED that we troubled our pretty heads and said FU to the judges.


22 posted on 05/20/2009 9:56:57 PM PDT by LizzyD
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But the way the judges GUSHED over him....like he was the MESSIAH or something

You're comparing Adam to Obama?

23 posted on 05/20/2009 9:59:23 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: exist

“I used to wear eye-liner cuz hot chicks who wrote poetry liked it. “

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, sure.


24 posted on 05/20/2009 10:00:13 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: CMoran325

bookmark


25 posted on 05/20/2009 10:07:43 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: FlJoePa
I can happily and honestly say that I’ve never in my life watched a minute of this show.

Then why bother to even comment?

It actually has some excellent talent on it.

The result was a travesty, even the winner was shocked. Allen should finished about fifth or sixth in the competition but obviously managed to get a good voting block going for himself. It's kind an allegory of how 0bama won the presidency, a guy with little talent but good organization.

Simon Cowell was totally pissed, the result has likely robbed him of millions. I suspect he won't be back next year, this will be the last straw.

26 posted on 05/20/2009 10:08:36 PM PDT by Wil H (The most destructive act of Muslim terrorism against the US was paying for 0bama's Harvard education)
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To: FlJoePa

Why do you say that like it’s a good thing..You’ve missed some wonderful musical moments. Your loss. Am I supposed to applaud you for being a cultural fool? I don’t get it.


27 posted on 05/20/2009 10:22:25 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: CMoran325

You’re out of your mind. Adam will be the biggest star ever to come out of Idol. Kris Allen is a good singer, but there are thousands of people that sound just like him. Who cares...Adam emerged the star. There have been a bunch of Idol winners who never went on to greatness...I predict Kris will be one of them.


28 posted on 05/20/2009 10:23:55 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: CMoran325

So glad Kris won.


29 posted on 05/20/2009 10:26:40 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Wil H

Cry moar


30 posted on 05/20/2009 10:28:30 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: deannadurbin

Were you there? The crowds were huge in San Diego. Why must you guys knock him. He has never used his sexuality and he has been nothing but polite and gracious. Even in his defeat tonight, he was incredibly gracious and upbeat and kept putting the focus back on the winner. BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS HE SHOULD HAVE WON.


31 posted on 05/20/2009 10:40:33 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: FlJoePa
I can happily and honestly say that I’ve never in my life watched a minute of this show.

I can happily and honestly say that I’ve never in my life posted in a thread about this show.

32 posted on 05/20/2009 10:41:13 PM PDT by Lonely Bull
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To: Lonely Bull

Liar ;)


33 posted on 05/20/2009 10:42:29 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Hildy

Adam will be another Idol loser like Chris Daughtry. He already is a star. And.... by losing American Idol, he is not locked into a winner’s contract. He will be able to sign for a better deal than Kris.

He is the only one I have heard that can do justice to Freddy Mercury’s parts with Queen. Now, that would be a good gig for him!


34 posted on 05/20/2009 10:43:16 PM PDT by Tucson Jim
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To: Hildy

Yes, “everyone” knows that... erm, what? Adam is theatrical which is not current.


35 posted on 05/20/2009 10:44:32 PM PDT by NinoFan
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Adam is theatrical which is not current.

Says who? Have you noticed there has been a resurgence of the movie musical lately? The man can act and he can sing and he will be a huge star. Kris will do ok..but he's like so many others out there. He will get lost in the crowd. But I wish him luck. It's not his fault that little girls texted into the wee hours of the morning while they were fantasizing being married to Little Kris.

36 posted on 05/20/2009 10:49:40 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: CMoran325

Adam lost it because he wussed out and sang nothing but soft, slow tunes. Well, DUH! Obviously that plays to Kris’ strength.

They all wimp out when it counts.

KISS was pretty awesome though :)


37 posted on 05/20/2009 10:57:38 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Putin warned Obama not to pursue Marxism. Obama has ignored him.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

what on Earth are you talking about? Did we watch the same show. I admit that last song by Kara sucked, but they had to sing it. Nobody could have made that song sound good...but Adam came damn close.


38 posted on 05/20/2009 11:00:02 PM PDT by Hildy
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Like who wins Idol really matters to what they can do later? Daughtry was fourth, wasn’t he?

(No, I’ve never watched Idol, either.)


39 posted on 05/20/2009 11:06:07 PM PDT by mavfin (Personal Freedom, Personal Responsibility)
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To: Hildy

Zac Efron, the current male movie musical star, is a lot less flamboyant than Glambert. I just don’t think his type is in now.

Kris won far more than the tween vote. In my circles (gay men and conservatives), it was split about 60/40 in favor of Kris. Adam was just too over the top for many of the gays (though I suspect you’ll accuse us of having the same fantasies as those girls).


40 posted on 05/20/2009 11:06:38 PM PDT by NinoFan
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Instead of picking a song to get the house rocking he sung “Mad World”. Oh boy. Now, *there* is a toe-tapper.

He sung it well, but he should have picked something different. Then with the slow ones by Fuller and Kara, well, he really didn't go out with a bang.

On the other hand, Kris was in his zone. I said yesterday he was going to win. Adam pussied out.

41 posted on 05/20/2009 11:09:22 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Putin warned Obama not to pursue Marxism. Obama has ignored him.)
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To: VeniVidiVici
He picked that song because that was his most popular song and the song that was chosen for him was a "toe-tapper" as you strangely described. People here knock him when he sings rock and "screeches" and now he's bring criticized for singing slowly. You guys are a tough crowd!!

Kris sang his first song well..but the other two were really not very good. Again, can't fault him for singing the original song that just plain out sucked from top to bottom. And tonight, when he and Adam sang together, you didn't even hear Kris...it was just embarrassing. And by the way, I didn't realize just how short Kris is...he makes Ryan Seacrest look like an NBA star..and that's pretty hard to do!

42 posted on 05/20/2009 11:53:28 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: CMoran325
I agree completely. Adam clearly had the better voice and the most originality in song choice and composition. Kris was cute and unassuming and connected better emotionally. Both seemed like genuine nice guys.

It will be interesting to see what Adam in particular comes up with when he starts recording his own material. With his voice he could do anything from opera to ballads, but he really seems to want to be a rocker.

43 posted on 05/20/2009 11:53:50 PM PDT by Hugin (GSA! (Goodbye sweet America))
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To: NinoFan

That was why Adam was so great! He crossed every line...you know who really liked him?? BLACK WOMEN! Yes...He is the only one who hasn’t made his sexuality an issue. He has been gracious and professional this whole process. He deserves better than to be defined by his sexuality...


44 posted on 05/20/2009 11:55:58 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Theo

Please, as a mother and a devout Christian, give it a rest. Adam is an enterntainer first and foremost and a talented one at that. Liberace was a flashy singer and entertainer that many Christian grandmothers loved and watched. Adam will also be loved and watched by those same grandmas. Kris has his niche and so does Adam. Both showed class and both deserve the very best.


45 posted on 05/21/2009 12:05:14 AM PDT by Semperfiwife (It is a tale, told by an idiot.....living in DC)
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To: CMoran325

Great video, thanks. I love adoption.


46 posted on 05/21/2009 12:07:19 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Hildy
BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS HE SHOULD HAVE WON.

And Kris knew it too.

Adam is amazing and will have a great career. I am sad and mad that he didn't win Idol but have nothing but respect for Kris. Both were very nice, respectful kids.

47 posted on 05/21/2009 12:10:42 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: exist

Too much information.


48 posted on 05/21/2009 12:16:14 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: CheneyChick

“Newsweek speculated that there was a Christian voting bloc that would affect the outcome of the American Idol finale”

Definitely not a gay voting bloc attemtping to fix outcomes either, I bet. *rolls eyes*


49 posted on 05/21/2009 12:23:25 AM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: Hildy

If the crowds were “huge” for Adam the camera didn’t show it.

Bottom line: Arkansas gave Kris 35 million votes, that was enough to put their hometown boy over the edge. If CA had done the same for Adam HE would have won.

Everything happens for a reason and perhaps Kris, the Christian clean cut happily married young man, deserved to win over the male kissing, eyeliner and earring wearing Adam. Singing is not just about singing: it’s about the total package. It’s about how you present yourself. Fact is that many people were turned off by Adam’s screaming and his strutting around the stage. Some people do not consider that true singing.

Kris was creative and turned in some excellent performances too. Like Kara said, “Judge Kris on the entire season, not just one song.”


50 posted on 05/21/2009 5:32:44 AM PDT by deannadurbin
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