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Coyote Invasion Feared in Long Beach After Cats Disappear
ktla ^ | May 25, 2009

Posted on 05/25/2009 2:47:54 PM PDT by JoeProBono

Several cats have suddenly gone missing in one north Long Beach neighborhood and its feared coyotes may be to blame.

Lisa Kamieniecki says she watched a coyote kill her 14-year-old cat named "Bear" around 4 a.m. Saturday morning.

The coyote dropped the cat's body when her husband scared it off, Kamieniecki said.

She says two coyotes returned minutes later.

Kamieniecki called Animal Control, who told her that coyotes commonly feed at that time. But, if the animals make a daytime appearance or don't seem to fear humans or cars, that's something Animal Control would investigate, according to John Keisler, Manager of Animal Care Services in Long Beach.

Kamieniecki says she's surprised to see coyotes in such a populated area. She also feels that her cat was not the first family pet to be attacked.

She says she's noticed a number of "Missing Cat" signs in the neighborhood, and thinks the coyotes may be responsible for the disappearances.

She now fears that small children may fall prey to the hungry coyotes.

Keisler says this is the start of the wildlife season. He advises residents to bring small dogs and cats inside for the night and only walk them during the daytime. He also suggests removing sources of food, water and shelter to avoid attracting coyotes.


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: cat; coyote; longbeach; wildlife
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1 posted on 05/25/2009 2:47:55 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

In other news, the sun came up in the East . . . .


2 posted on 05/25/2009 2:50:23 PM PDT by BipolarBob (It takes a Kenyan village to raise a US president.)
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To: JoeProBono

Coyotes in Long Beach?

It’s like, 50 miles to the nearest woods.


3 posted on 05/25/2009 2:51:28 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Got Tea?)
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To: JoeProBono

Oh, good. I do enjoy Viking Kitty threads.


4 posted on 05/25/2009 2:52:28 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: JoeProBono
Are they sure it isn't an influx of Chinese restaurants?

the food arrived just the other day
it came to the house in the usual way
there was a tip to give, and
paper plates, came from a wok just a mile away
it was good but don't ya know it, before twas through
we found cat meat through and through, man
there was cat meat through and through

there was cat in the ladle, at the Hong Kong spoon
delicate essen from here to Rangoon
have you tried a cat yet? in now now when?
and we'll taste it better then, man
we know we'll eat a big cat then

had taco bell just the other day
the kfc rats had all ran away
it was good and moist, and brown and nice
it tasted better than the animal that eats mice
and as I chewed away, the taste never thinned, it said
I'm gonna love cat too, yeah, some rat meat and cat meat too

there was cat in the ladle, at the Hong Kong spoon
delicate essen from here to Rangoon
have you tried a cat yet? in now now when?
and we'll taste it better then, man
we know we'll eat a big cat then

well I had some porridge just the other day
tsted like ca I just had to say
HUN? i'm asking you, is there cat in this pile?
she nodded then she said with a smile
what I'm really like now is to make all your cats food
there is less of them in that big brood

there was cat in the ladle, at the Hong Kong spoon
delicate essen from here to Rangoon
have you tried a cat yet? in now now when?
and we'll taste it better then, man
we know we'll eat a big cat then

I no longer care if the hair's cut away
i eat it up as I chew away
I thought I like to eat this, I just don't mind,
I try every meat of the animal kind
you see, there's mad cow in cattle, and the avian flu
but it's sure nice the meat with no "moo" bads
it's sure nice to eat no "moo"

and as I picked up the phone for delivery
I'll order more white meat
cat is the new white meat

there was cat in the ladle, at the Hong Kong spoon
delicate essen from here to Rangoon
have you tried a cat yet? in now now when?
and we'll taste it better then, man
we know we'll eat a big cat then

5 posted on 05/25/2009 2:52:53 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: JoeProBono

Coyotes are not to blame. The irresponsible cat owners are to blame.


6 posted on 05/25/2009 2:52:55 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Crucify ! Crucify ! Crucify him!!)
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To: JoeProBono
Keisler says this is the start of the wildlife season. He advises residents to bring small dogs and cats inside for the night and only walk them during the daytime. He also suggests removing sources of food, water and shelter to avoid attracting coyotes.

I advise anyone who is able in the area to go coyote hunting and put the fear of man into these little wolves.

7 posted on 05/25/2009 2:55:01 PM PDT by calex59
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Screw animal control! If one of these came after my cat, he’s toast! I’d get out one of my rifles and smoke the damn thing!


8 posted on 05/25/2009 2:55:06 PM PDT by Spottys Spurs (Proudly served with the 1st H.B. 369th...)
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To: bert
We don't need no stinkin coyotes !!!! Photobucket
9 posted on 05/25/2009 2:55:42 PM PDT by Jeffrey_D.
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To: bert

I do not let my bird fly outside. I’ve seen hawks.

The food chain is real!!!


10 posted on 05/25/2009 2:57:37 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (doubleplusungood)
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To: Jeffrey_D.

Cats are responsible for whiping out and decimating many species here in the US, I say rock on Coyotes, there are way to many cats here in the US and the coyotes are just keeping them in check, keep you kitties in doors if you’re worried about it, but, be sure do de-worm them well, 1 in 10 Americans (higher actually) are infected with the worms their cats carry.


11 posted on 05/25/2009 2:58:46 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: JoeProBono

Oh you mean the cat owners who are letting their cats out at night are crying because a better predator is eating their cats.

The cats that leave their droppings on their neighbors patio. Or tear up their plants.

Too bad, keep your cat in the house.


12 posted on 05/25/2009 2:59:56 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: calex59

“I advise anyone who is able in the area to go coyote hunting and put the fear of man into these little wolves.”

Here in Illinois it’s coyote season pretty much all year round. I hate those things. They are vicious little bastards. I have shot a few in my lifetime.


13 posted on 05/25/2009 3:02:01 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: calex59

The only way this poster can think of, coyotes might be getting there is via the “river” - a massive mostly dry concrete culvert which slices through the urban landscape north to south through Northern Long Beach - ending by the ocean in Long Beach.

The coyotes must have walked down from way north somewhere, and then scrambled out at one of the exit ramps.

Series, gang bangers are a way bigger threat in that neighborhood, than any wild animals.


14 posted on 05/25/2009 3:04:18 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Got Tea?)
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To: ought-six

In CA the season is pretty much year round also, they are sneaky and will attack children if hungry enough. As for people being surprised at them being in Long Beach, coyotes will live where ever they can find food.


15 posted on 05/25/2009 3:05:01 PM PDT by calex59
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To: JoeProBono
they're a lil fuller than that here abouts...

16 posted on 05/25/2009 3:06:22 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: JoeProBono

I have a hard time feeling sorry for people who allow their cats to roam outside.


17 posted on 05/25/2009 3:10:18 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

We have a coyote problem here in Houston...within the city limits in small areas of woods in areas like The Heights right next to I-10. Like raccoons, opossums and armadillos, they are adaptable and resourceful critters. Couple of dogs have been carried off by them and an occassional jogger has been hurried along their way by them.


18 posted on 05/25/2009 3:11:20 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Palin is an intellectual light weight. She's an object of adoration for a cult of personality.)
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To: freedumb2003

19 posted on 05/25/2009 3:11:20 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

I have a 10-22 with a silencer on it that would put a stop to that coyote problem real quick. City limits or no. At 4AM, nobody is going to see a thing.


21 posted on 05/25/2009 3:17:30 PM PDT by Concho ( No Birth Certificate-No Census!)
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To: Concho

Too bad silencers are all but illegal. Sub sonic rounds are pretty quiet though.


22 posted on 05/25/2009 3:20:22 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I encountered a coyote in suburban Atlanta (Vinings, to be specific) a couple of years ago. There’s really no woods to speak of here either.


23 posted on 05/25/2009 3:22:51 PM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Sudetenland
I saw a coyote in Tanglewood in Houston at 1pm 2 months ago. It was at least 3 miles from the bayou and running in that direction. I followed it a little way but had to stop at Woodway for traffic. I had heard that they were here but had not had a sighting till this one.
24 posted on 05/25/2009 3:27:20 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: JoeProBono

Now that’s what I need!
A coyote ought to keep those pesky neighborhood cats out of my garden!

I’ve tried everything... mousetraps, bb-guns...


25 posted on 05/25/2009 3:30:10 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: JoeProBono

More victims of gun control!


26 posted on 05/25/2009 3:31:45 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: Welsh Rabbit

It’s not just like there aren’t woods nearby.

More like Long Beach is the most unlikely place on the entire planet for wild animals. I’m series.

Pacific Ocean to the south. Pacific Ocean to the west. 75 miles of urban sprawl all the way up to Santa Monica to the north. Probably 100 miles of nothing but city to the northeast right through Compton and all the way up to. Heck all the way to Ontario. East; nothing but urban sprawl all the way out past Anaheim.

To the southeast, nothing but urban sprawl way out to Tustin.

I can’t think of a more unlikely place for coyotes, actually.

I guess there are some woods in Palos Verdes, which is sort of north of there. Not much though.

Those are some enterprising coyotes, that’s for sure.

Perhaps they carjacked somebody to get there.


27 posted on 05/25/2009 3:32:54 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Got Tea?)
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To: Scythian
1 in 10 Americans (higher actually) are infected with the worms their cats carry.

Stop it. You're making my butt itch!

28 posted on 05/25/2009 3:51:49 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: Chode

See a coyote, kill it.

‘Nuff said.


29 posted on 05/25/2009 4:01:05 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: Chode

This is a beautiful animal.


30 posted on 05/25/2009 4:08:04 PM PDT by angcat ("When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe".)
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To: JoeProBono
Several cats have suddenly gone missing in one north Long Beach neighborhood and its feared coyotes may be to blame.

What's the down side?

31 posted on 05/25/2009 4:12:07 PM PDT by Poison Pill (The Bond Market: Doing the job the Republicans won't do.)
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To: angcat
yup... no scrawny lookin Wiley Coyotes round here. with all the chucks/rabbits/deer they live pretty high on the hog so to speak
32 posted on 05/25/2009 4:21:14 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: Chode
Thank god we don't have them in NEPA. I keep my cats in but I feed many strays. We have raccoons and the occasional Bear that craps on a rock in my driveway.
33 posted on 05/25/2009 4:24:04 PM PDT by angcat ("When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe".)
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To: angcat
just damn... there's bear around here, but NOT THAT NEAR HERE to crap on my driveway.

ya need to carry a gun just to check the mail.

34 posted on 05/25/2009 4:30:13 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
100 miles of nothing but city to the northeast right through Compton and all the way up to. Heck all the way to Ontario. East; nothing but urban sprawl all the way out past Anaheim. To the southeast, nothing but urban sprawl way out to Tustin. I can’t think of a more unlikely place for coyotes, actually.

Imagine that many garbage cans to raid, backyard pet dishes to clean out, not to mention backyard pets.

They must have thought they had died and gone to heaven...

They are highly adaptable, scavenger/hunter critters who blend in (looks like a dog at large to the untrained eye) well. Once humans quit hunting them, they get over their fear of humans pretty quickly and move in. They have even been seen in Central Park, NYC.

35 posted on 05/25/2009 4:30:49 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: angcat
speaking about beautiful, we have these around here tooo...

36 posted on 05/25/2009 4:34:26 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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37 posted on 05/25/2009 4:37:51 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: Chode

We have the Albino deer also. They are stunning.


38 posted on 05/25/2009 4:39:06 PM PDT by angcat ("When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe".)
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To: Scythian

It’s just a GIF image .....easy !

I live in the country . .

(you’ll love this),

I shoot feral cats ! Well, at least the obnoxious ones.


39 posted on 05/25/2009 4:40:36 PM PDT by Jeffrey_D.
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To: driftdiver

Easy and cheap to make and then throw them in the trash.


40 posted on 05/25/2009 4:40:36 PM PDT by Concho ( No Birth Certificate-No Census!)
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To: Jeffrey_D.

Scythian, I should mention coyotes are shot on site !


41 posted on 05/25/2009 4:46:21 PM PDT by Jeffrey_D.
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To: angcat
no, these aren't albinos... they are a genetic white deer herd that has been on the old Romulus Army weapons depot for over 50years and even though the depot closed some years back, the herd still lives there.

some brown deer get in and some white deer get out so you can get some very strange looking deer, kinda like cow's except instead of black and white they are brown and white...

i've seen them but only seen a couple pictures and none i have access to

42 posted on 05/25/2009 4:50:25 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: JoeProBono
1. It'd be nice if they gave a better description of the neighborhood: "North Long Beach" is pretty much Los Angeles.
2. True, the river does cut through LB, much of the river is full of trees. Much of it is lined with open spaces that could support wildlife...then there are the roadside drains that run from the mountains to the Pacific.
3. Coyotes, possums, raccoons, skunks; all prosper around humans. Of course, so do rodents and small domesticated animals (food).
4/a. I'm a little surprised to see nearly as much venom on this cat thread as on a typical pit bull bashing frenzy(!)
4/b. Then again, I once had a neighbor complain at me once because I had four cats: Then I reminded him that neither he nor I had a single rat, mouse, gopher, or feral cat to contend with. (Trust me, 'vector control' is no more concerned with wharf rats than they seem to be with coyotes.)

People and cats, and dogs, ferrets, and multiple mongoose (spelling unknown) hang out together for a reason, romanticizing coyotes assumes that the reason has ceased to exist - it hasn't.

43 posted on 05/25/2009 4:59:18 PM PDT by norton
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To: JoeProBono

Solution: one shot into the coyote’s spine. Then dump into pre-dug trench just across neighbor’s property line, and bury. “Yeah, my car backfired, I gotta find a new mechanic.”


44 posted on 05/25/2009 5:26:08 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: driftdiver

You are misinformed. Silencers are not illegal if you pay the tax stamp on them. If you can own a gun you can pay the taxes for one and you are 100% legal.

In fact, before the 1930s when they passed the tax on silencers, most people in urban areas used them regularly in order to target practice or hunt without bothering their neighbors. Hardly anyone used them for illegal snipings.


45 posted on 05/25/2009 5:29:42 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: bert

There are a couple native cat species here, Puma Concolor or cougar, Lynx Rufus, or Bobcat.

Felis Catus, or the common domestic housecat is not one of them.

It is an invasive species and should be eradicated from North America.


46 posted on 05/25/2009 5:37:41 PM PDT by djf (Lawyers are mathematicians. The bad ones.)
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To: Jeffrey_D.

47 posted on 05/25/2009 6:04:39 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Attacking?


48 posted on 05/25/2009 6:11:13 PM PDT by Jeffrey_D.
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To: Secret Agent Man

Before the 1930’s they came up with the .22 so they could have indoor shooting ranges in some of the larger mansions of the day !

sorry, just some useless info.........


49 posted on 05/25/2009 6:14:40 PM PDT by Jeffrey_D.
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To: Secret Agent Man

“Silencers are not illegal if you pay the tax stamp on them.”

Silencers fall under the National Firearms Act at a federal level and most states also cover them.

If you are manufacturing silencers you are most likely breaking the law.

If you are target shooting in your back yard you would be stupid unless you have a 180 acre back yard.


50 posted on 05/25/2009 6:57:05 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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