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Weekly Gardening Thread 2009 Vol.3 May 29
FreeRepublic | 5-29-2009 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 05/29/2009 5:08:50 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232

Good morning Freeper gardeners. This weekend marks the end of May and I hope everyone’s gardens are doing well. I know some have had to delay planting due to weather and we all hope conditions have improved for you.

So far this weekend is looking like a good one, weather wise, all across the Nation except for some lingering rain in the extreme NE. Lets get gardening!


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1 posted on 05/29/2009 5:08:50 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; billhilly; Alkhin; ...
I hope all of you will stop by.

This is typically a low volume ping list. Once a week for the thread and every once in a while for other FR threads posted that might be of interest.

If you would like to be added to or removed from the list please let me know by FreepMail or by posting to me.

2 posted on 05/29/2009 5:10:25 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I’m excited to be on the list!

Ping away!!!


3 posted on 05/29/2009 5:12:15 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (GO CAVS !!!! No Cleveland championship since 1964. I'm not getting any younger!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Tomato and pepper planting this weekend. Here , in CNY, it’s not wise to plant much before traditional Memorial Day.


4 posted on 05/29/2009 5:13:57 AM PDT by lysie
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To: Red_Devil 232

Oh, meant to say thanks for the ping and thread.


5 posted on 05/29/2009 5:14:50 AM PDT by lysie
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To: Daisyjane69

I know you will enjoy it. We have two other Master Gardeners on the thread and I know you will provide us with some good advice.


6 posted on 05/29/2009 5:15:43 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232; All
Anyone plant any sungold tomatos?

What a great plant!


7 posted on 05/29/2009 5:16:13 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Red_Devil 232

My report from S. Utah...

Tomato plants have started to set fruit. The pots are now on the east side of the house. In a few weeks, they will be in full shade, due to the heat. (In S. Utah, planting tomatoes in the ground is a guaranteed dead end to tomatoes, it’s too hot and too sunny.)

Strawberries and raspberries (also in pots and on the east side) are on steroids.

Columbines are the toughest little plants ever. My landlord cannot believe how well they do here. They are from Washington State and never considered planting them in the desert. lol But they are very happy sitting under my apricot tree, blooming away!


8 posted on 05/29/2009 5:17:41 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (GO CAVS !!!! No Cleveland championship since 1964. I'm not getting any younger!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Ping fer later- thanks.


9 posted on 05/29/2009 5:17:42 AM PDT by herewego (obama- the best prez terrorrists $ can buy. - Got .45?)
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To: Daisyjane69

My garden is getting thoroughly watered this morning.

I have 6 kinds of tomaters, 3 kind of peppers, basil, cukes and yellow squash.

It’s about 20% of the size of last years. I made it way too big last year, it looked horrible and weedy, it was just too much to keep up with. This year, it’s nice and small, and already completely mulched.

Since I have a tiller, I helped out about a dozen neighbors getting their gardens going, too.


10 posted on 05/29/2009 5:17:50 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Sometimes we Master Gardeners sound all scientific.

The rest of the time, we just “wing it” like everyone else. LOL :)

My landlord was funny the other day, she said “Gotta love ya. You keep planting until you WILL a plant to live.” heh


11 posted on 05/29/2009 5:20:09 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (GO CAVS !!!! No Cleveland championship since 1964. I'm not getting any younger!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
My husband bought those stupid hanging tomato planters. I told him to hang them under the deck, they are so ugly. Anyway my fav. flower to grow in the summer is the Portulaca.
12 posted on 05/29/2009 5:21:13 AM PDT by angcat ("When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe".)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Lower Hudson Valley - NY

Got my 30 tomato(e) plants, 45 pepper plants of various varieties, red & white onions and a few shallots started.


13 posted on 05/29/2009 5:21:47 AM PDT by IrishMike (Liberalism is a psychological disorder and a dangerous mental illness.)
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To: lysie
The lore or old wives tale here in Central Mississippi is that you do not plant until one month after the last Thunderstorm in Feb. A couple of Black ladies told me that while I was at our local Co-Op looking for plants in early March. I had never heard it before.
14 posted on 05/29/2009 5:22:52 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: lysie

Well, I must have made the list. Thanks.

Traditionally for Western SD the last frost day is May 15th.

The weather as been so bad and cool that we are a whole week late. Hmmm, not so bad I guess. Bought four tomato and 4 pepper plants Wednesday and will get them in pots tomorrow.


15 posted on 05/29/2009 5:24:10 AM PDT by wita
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To: Red_Devil 232

Does anyone have any experience with garlic? I ordered some and found out it was too hot down here in SC and read that it should be planted in fall. I left it unwrapped in a box and the bulbs still look good but the odor is getting really strong. Should I plant the bulbs anyway or just forget it and use them for cooking?


16 posted on 05/29/2009 5:24:13 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: Red_Devil 232

My tomatoes are starting out REALLY, REALLY slow. I started them at the beginning of April and they just stayed runty little things.

I planted them outdoors, thinking that it would help them grow better, and have not seem much progress and we’ve had warm and wet weather.

Are some varieties just slow starters? They’re Italian plum tomatoes for sauce.


17 posted on 05/29/2009 5:24:29 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Mornin’ all! I’ll be in and out as usual. :) Daughter is sposed to go in the hosp today and they’re going to induce labor. I actually got a day off from the garden center and I have TONS of stuff I want/need to get done in the garden/yard but I doubt I’ll get to any of them.

The heat and the bugs are here to stay, along with the weeds. We got the last of our broccoli plants disced in and planted peanuts yest. As soon as we pull the vidalias and peas, we’re going to plant lima beans—Jackson Wonder and Early thorogreen- and I got some Taylor Horticultural beans to plant, and some Dixie Lee field peas. In another week or so, the weeds will have completely taken over. LOL We both work full time, and what little we get done is after work and before the bugs drive us inside!

Y’all have a great day!


18 posted on 05/29/2009 5:25:02 AM PDT by gardengirl
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To: angcat

You know, lady...those should work as advertised. I’ll be very interested in your results; I’m originally from Ohio so we have a similar climate.

If he hangs those bad boys on the south side of your porch, they should do great. Tomatoes are considered a vine. If your space is limited, you might want to make sure he chooses a determinate variety. Lest you end up with a jungle. LOL

Please keep us posted!


19 posted on 05/29/2009 5:25:28 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (GO CAVS !!!! No Cleveland championship since 1964. I'm not getting any younger!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I am doing a “japanese” tomato ring this year, but is has been to cold and rainy to plant this week. Hoepfully the tomatoes will go in over the weekend. I have two kinds of pole beans in, lettuce, peas, onions, yellow squash, zucchini, patta pan squash, and a bunch of herbs.


20 posted on 05/29/2009 5:26:17 AM PDT by sonrise57 (Help us God for evil men have surrounded us.)
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To: Daisyjane69
I will keep you posted. I can't remember the name of them but he bought 4. So that is about 5000 tomato's soon!
21 posted on 05/29/2009 5:28:45 AM PDT by angcat ("When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe".)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Didn’t know this list existed and don’t know how to be added to the ping list, but please count me in. Not much gardening in MA this weekend as we’ve had several inches of rain and I can see the weeds growing. Any Hosta fans out there?


22 posted on 05/29/2009 5:29:14 AM PDT by WesternMA
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To: Daisyjane69

The pots are now on the east side of the house. In a few weeks, they will be in full shade,

You move yours based on the sun, or the sun moves relative to your pots? It is a serious question.


23 posted on 05/29/2009 5:29:23 AM PDT by wita
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To: lysie

All you have to do is watch the Accuweather long range forecast and take off a few degrees if you live much outside Syracuse.

http://www.accuweather.com/us/ny/syracuse/13201/forecast-15day.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=1&zipchg=1&metric=0


24 posted on 05/29/2009 5:29:27 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: snippy_about_it

I’ve grown garlic, when I lived in Ohio.

If the cloves are soft and mushy, cook them and restart your garlic project in the fall.

If they still seem firm to you, plant them either on the north or east side of the house (to shield from afternoon heat). You prolly will not want to use these for cooking this season; but will be growing them for next season’s stock.

The point is, if they are starting to emit an odor, they are reaching their temperature limit. They need to get into cool soil, and fast. Once you plant them, be sure to mulch them.


25 posted on 05/29/2009 5:30:19 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (GO CAVS !!!! No Cleveland championship since 1964. I'm not getting any younger!)
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To: gardengirl

Your FR page doesn’t have a flag but my guess is you are in the south, heat and bugs! Godspeed on your daughters delivery.


26 posted on 05/29/2009 5:32:26 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: Daisyjane69

Utah! I got the idea for my drip irrigation system from the Utah State Univ. Cooperative Extension service.


27 posted on 05/29/2009 5:32:36 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: wita

Being down here, in the heat, my tomatoes are on the south side of the house until we are in the 90’s. Then we’re on the east side until we reach the 100’s. Once we get there, the plants are in full shade 24/7, in my carport.

Tomatoes (other than Heatwave) are DORMANT above 86 degrees.
They won’t ripen, pollinate, fill out or anything else.

In this climate, those things happen at NIGHT.


28 posted on 05/29/2009 5:33:17 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (GO CAVS !!!! No Cleveland championship since 1964. I'm not getting any younger!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
As of this morning in eastern North Carolina I've got a salad garden going great guns... the leaf lettuce looks like something out of a seed catalog, the growth has been so strong. I also planted Swiss chard for the first time, and that has been a winner also. The chard is a welcome addition to our green salads and the soup pot. I dressed the garden with some slow-release 15-5-10 fertilizer, which has helped the green leafies tremendously but was a bad idea on the radishes. The radishes started putting on stems and foliage at the expense of root bulbs, and I've already yanked them up and put tomatoes in their place.

I had started some really strong-looking Pink Oxheart tomatoes indoors and transplanted them outside, only to have the local bird life peck them to pieces. I'm not sure what it is about small tomato plants that attracts birds, but these poor seedlings were not long for this world.

29 posted on 05/29/2009 5:33:36 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Daisyjane69

Thanks for the information. I was concerned about using them to cook with this season. I’ll plant them, even if I get less yield it will be fine. I’m originally from Ohio also, boy do I miss Ohio river tomatoes!!

I’m down in SC now and this is my first year growing plants in the south. The bugs destroyed my strawberry plants, something is pulling up my onions, the watermelons are slow but coming along. The only thing that appears to be doing great are my pole beans.

Between the bugs, critters and heat gardening down here is going to be more difficult that when I gardened in Ohio.


30 posted on 05/29/2009 5:37:56 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: WesternMA

YOU HAVE

ADDED TO THE WEEKLY GARDENING PING LIST

31 posted on 05/29/2009 5:39:53 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Daisyjane69

Tomatoes (other than Heatwave) are DORMANT above 86 degrees.
They won’t ripen, pollinate, fill out or anything else.

Well now, ten minutes on the gardening thread and I know more about tomatoes than I did. Thanks for the tip. We don’t get a lot of 100’s here and the short growing season limits varieties somewhat, so anything that will assist in their ripening is a big help.


32 posted on 05/29/2009 5:40:30 AM PDT by wita
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To: lysie

I put mine in Monday. Channel 9 changed the forecast mid afternoon to mild frost for the north country. Had to scramble to cover. We dodged the bullet. Beans, lettuce, basil are up. sd


33 posted on 05/29/2009 5:41:58 AM PDT by shotdog (I love my country; it's my government I'm afraid of.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Utah! I got the idea for my drip irrigation system from the Utah State Univ. Cooperative Extension service.

On the web or in person?


34 posted on 05/29/2009 5:42:06 AM PDT by wita
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To: wita

I got the info from the web.


35 posted on 05/29/2009 5:44:47 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
I have seen some aphids this spring on the leaf lettuce, mainly with concentrated infestations on just a few plants. Because I've planted so much leaf lettuce, I just yanked the plants and threw them in the compost bin. I'd prefer not to spray pesticide on the lettuce if I can help it, since we actually eat the leaves.

I did break out the Sevin on two cabbages in the garden however, as the cabbage worms have been going to town on them. A fortnight later they're looking much better. I have also used the Sevin on my volunteer yellow summer squash, which is prone to squash bugs, and the young hot pepper plants. I'm not sure what eats hot pepper plants, but the leaves were looking like swiss cheese, so they got the treatment.

Sevin was my bug killer of choice, since I remember using it as a kid. It's what my dad bought for use in the garden.

36 posted on 05/29/2009 5:46:31 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: WesternMA

Not much gardening in MA”

I just sold my house in RI last week and had to give up my beautiful gardens that I had worked on for 30 years. I moved to the lower south west corner of Illinois. Anyone know which plants do well here. It has been raining almost every day so I can’t get started yet but I do know that the soil is very clay like. Will probably opt for planting in pots this year.


37 posted on 05/29/2009 5:46:57 AM PDT by heylady
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To: metmom
Thanks. We live about 20 miles north of Syracuse.

Hubby tracks the weather. Me? I just open the door and look. LOL

38 posted on 05/29/2009 5:47:52 AM PDT by lysie
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To: metmom

Yikes! Saturday’s low is 42.


39 posted on 05/29/2009 5:49:29 AM PDT by lysie
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To: shotdog
Many years ago when mom was having chemo treatments in Philly I planted her garden June 7. It didn't take too long before her garden caught up to others.

Of course, I don't want to wait that long.

40 posted on 05/29/2009 5:52:55 AM PDT by lysie
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To: WesternMA

I’ve got some hostas that are older than I am. I dug them up when my great grandmother passed away back in 96.

Ever have any luck starting hostas from seed? I’ve managed it a couple of times but I’m mostly hit or miss.


41 posted on 05/29/2009 5:55:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: wita
Here are a couple of links to information on how the PVC Drip Irrigation System works and ideas on how to designe one. The video is not very high quality but it shows all the basics.

Video of how a PVC drip irrigation system is constructed and how it works

PDF File on how the system can be set up for different situations

42 posted on 05/29/2009 5:55:43 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: wita

Happy to be of service.

Btw, do not spend your hard earned money on any of those chemicals they sell to spray on tomato blossoms to set fruit. I have found it’s a waste.

You can do two things to set fruit. Plant them in pots and move them to shade in overly hot weather (Moths will pollinate them at night!) or you can use that highly technical device known as a Q-tip (lol) and hand pollinate them, going from blossom to blossom.

Watering: I learned this from my Italian grandpa’s knee. But of course, I had to find out on my own. Tomatoes respond to “water stress.” Translation=if you have a choice of a little water every day or a deep water twice a week, choose the latter.

Fertilizing: Tomatoes are vines, remember. So here is what this means to you: Choose a fertilizer with a high middle number.

That is your PHOSPHORUS. PHOSPHORUS controls flowering and fruiting.

The numbers on your fertilizers are:

(in this order, always)

Nitrogen (controls greenery and growth)
Phosphorus (flowering and fruiting)
Potassium (getting established, overall plant well-being. Like the banana to cure your hangover! LOL)

If you have a plant that is growing a lot and looks beautiful, but refuses to flower or fruit, you are using too much nitrogen!

Btw, Miracle Gro changed their formula a few years ago and it’s high nitrogen and low phosphorus....a word to the wise.


43 posted on 05/29/2009 5:59:31 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (GO CAVS !!!! No Cleveland championship since 1964. I'm not getting any younger!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

We already pulled the first batch of radishes and will be replanting this weekend.

Tonight’s dinner will feature the first of the chard and squash.

Peppers, tomatoes, squash, eggplant, beans are all producing at this point and flowering.


44 posted on 05/29/2009 5:59:57 AM PDT by doodad
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To: heylady

Because you don’t know what you’re dealing with, starting with plants in pots sounds like a good idea...that’s how I started. Perhaps a good idea would be to spend the summer building up a good compost pile that will help with that clay soil. Ever hear of “lasagna beds”? Having made several, I heartily recommend them.


45 posted on 05/29/2009 6:01:04 AM PDT by WesternMA
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To: cripplecreek

Never tried the seed thing with hostas, but many of my hostas beds are very old and now starting to produce seedlings. I pick out the most unusual and watch them. One, a Montana type, has turned out to be one of my favorite plants that I named after my dog, Dakota.


46 posted on 05/29/2009 6:04:19 AM PDT by WesternMA
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To: mylife

Sungold & Sunsugar are both excellent cherry tomatoes...like eating candy.

I’m also trying Chocolate Cherry, a new introduction for Jung’s this season.

I usually only do three cherries, tops, or we’re swimming in them. Prolific little suckers, to say the least! :)


47 posted on 05/29/2009 6:04:23 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: lysie

I’m the one who tracks the weather in our family. mr. mm just asks.

We moved away from north of Syracuse to get out of the snow. I’ve seen enough lake-effect to last me a life time.


48 posted on 05/29/2009 6:05:11 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Sungold is prolific and deeeeelicious


49 posted on 05/29/2009 6:06:40 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Please add me to your ping list. Thanks.


50 posted on 05/29/2009 6:07:31 AM PDT by dirtboy
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