Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

To: Star Traveler

ACCIDENT DETAILS

Date: December 28, 1978
Time: 18:15
Location: Portland, Oregon
Operator: United Air Lines
Flight #: 173
Route: Denver - Portland
AC Type: McDonnell Douglas DC-8-61
Registration: N8082U
cn / ln: 45972/357
Aboard: 189 (passengers:181 crew:8)
Fatalities: 10 (passengers:8 crew:2)
Ground: 0
Summary: While on a flight from Denver to Portland, the aircraft ran out of fuel while the crew was distracted with a landing gear problem. Failure of the captain to monitor properly the aircraft’s fuel state and to properly respond to the low fuel state as indicated by other crew members. Contributing to the accident was the failure of the other two flight crew members either to fully comprehend the criticality of the fuel state or to successfully communicate their concern to the captain.

[ http://www.planecrashinfo.com/1978/1978-76.htm ]

I remember that it was determined that there was going to have to be “training” for crews in order to be more assertive with the captain when telling him that “We’re running out of gas!”... LOL...


26 posted on 05/29/2009 1:00:39 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies ]


To: Star Traveler

“Failure of the captain to monitor properly the aircraft’s fuel state and to properly respond to the low fuel state as indicated by other crew members.”

Do suppose the United captain was a former Air Force colonel? Perhaps there’s a common thread here.


27 posted on 05/29/2009 1:10:18 PM PDT by Habibi ("We gladly feast on those who would subdue us". Not just pretty words........)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies ]

To: Star Traveler
“I remember that it was determined that there was going to have to be “training” for crews in order to be more assertive with the captain when telling him that “We’re running out of gas!”... LOL...”

Yeah, that United captain was flying like a stroke patient. A classic CRM (cockpit resources management) failure. Nowadays, with armed flight deck crewmembers, the result would be very different. ;-)

30 posted on 05/29/2009 1:48:22 PM PDT by Habibi ("We gladly feast on those who would subdue us". Not just pretty words........)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson