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On Abortion, Moral Values, Murder, and Responsibility
themoderatevoice ^ | KATHY KATTENBURG

Posted on 06/01/2009 9:20:06 PM PDT by JoeProBono

Ezra Klein has a superb piece at his Washington Post blog today about the very real dangers of not seeing the murder of Dr. George Tiller for what it is: a political act intended to shut down access to abortion. Klein believes it’s essential for Congress to respond to this atrocity with legislation that protects women who seek abortions and the doctors and other health care professionals who provide them:

There is an impulse to understand George Tiller’s murder as a horrific, but comfortingly aberrational, act of extremist violence. That is the wrong way to think about it. Tiller is not the first abortion provider to be shot to death. Hell, this wasn’t even the first time an anti-abortion extremist tried to shoot George Tiller to death. In 1993, Shannon Shelley traveled to Tiller’s clinic and shot Tiller in both arms with a semiautomatic pistol. Scott Roeder’s contribution was managing to actually kill him.

This was, in other words, a political act. Tiller was murdered so that those in his line of work would be intimidated. In conversations with folks yesterday, I heard well-meaning variants on the idea that it would be unseemly to push legislation in the emotional aftermath of Tiller’s execution. I disagree. Roeder was acting in direct competition with the United States Congress. And it’s quite likely that he changed the status quo. Legislative language and judicial rulings had made abortive procedures legal and thus accessible. Yesterday’s killing was meant to render abortive procedures unsafe for doctors to conduct and thus inaccessible.

If a woman cannot get an abortion because no nearby providers are willing to assume the risk of performing it, the actual outcome is precisely the same as if the procedure were illegal. Roeder has, in all likelihood, made abortion less accessible. It would be, in my view, a perfectly appropriate response for the Congress to decisively prove his action not only ineffectual, but, in a broad sense, counterproductive.

That’s not to suggest fast-tracking legislation that radically transforms the county’s uneasy consensus. But there are plenty of remedies that speak to the question of access alone: Bills that make abortion centers safer and help poor women afford treatment, for instance. We can’t stop Scott Roeder from killing George Tiller. But we can stop him from having his intended effect on a woman’s ability to choose. The sentence I’ve bolded above is of particular importance. Dr. Tiller was one of only two doctors who provided late-term abortions in the United States. There’s a reason for that. Anti-abortion violence is a much more serious problem than many (if not most) people realize. And as this report at indicates, the violence itself is only half of the problem:

Violent protests, in the form of arson, firebombing, and vandalism started in the early 1970’s in the U.S. Then, as now, most of the violence appears to be the acts of religiously-motivated criminals acting alone. However, recent cases involving the assassination and attempted murder of abortion providers in both the U.S. and Canada have shown that perpetrators appear to be sheltered by a network of sympathizers......

TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: abortion; georgetiller; tiller

1 posted on 06/01/2009 9:20:06 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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New legislation is not needed. We have federal and state murder statutes.

The more important question is what occurred in Roe v. Wade when Texas’ murder statute and the homicide laws of 32 other states were swiped away and the right to kill the unborn baby was constitutionalized. Such has becomes the topsy-turvy legal landscape of our nation wrought by judges in black robes acting as legislators and philosopher kings.

2 posted on 06/01/2009 9:38:58 PM PDT by Steelfish
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3 posted on 06/01/2009 9:43:29 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono
That’s not to suggest fast-tracking legislation that radically transforms the county’s uneasy consensus.

Translation: The Left has to fast-track the generalizing of this one maniac into the political and bureaucratic oppression of fifty million people as fast as we can, because it's obvious the only collective hate going on here is Leftist efforts to turn this into a Reichstag fire and we have no consensus on our deranged determination to wield DHS power against our political enemies.

4 posted on 06/01/2009 9:58:26 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: JoeProBono
Abortion is not about saving women’s lives!

Studies Find Abortions Have Long-Term Effects

An Unexpected Correlation: The Legacy of Abortion

Study: Previous Abortions Linked With Pre-Term Birth and Cerebral Palsy

American Psychological Association Ignores Abortion-Depression Link

Study finds depression suffered by 80% of women who abort

Post-Abortion Counselor Confirms Abortions Cause Women Mental Health Issues

Spanish Medical Expert: Damage to Women Caused by Abortion is Scientifically Proven


Total Abortions since 1973


Why the drop after 1960? (in deaths of women from illegal abortions)

The reasons were new and better antibiotics, better surgery and the establishment of intensive care units in hospitals. This was in the face of a rising population. Between 1967 and 1970 sixteen states legalized abortion. In most it was limited, only for rape, incest and severe fetal handicap (life of mother was legal in all states). There were two big exceptions — California in 1967, and New York in 1970 allowed abortion on demand. Now look at the chart carefully.


Abortion Statistics - Decision to Have an Abortion (U.S.)

· 25.5% of women deciding to have an abortion want to postpone childbearing

· 21.3% of women cannot afford a baby

· 14.1% of women have a relationship issue or their partner does not want a child

· 12.2% of women are too young (their parents or others object to the pregnancy)

· 10.8% of women feel a child will disrupt their education or career

· 7.9% of women want no (more) children

· 3.3% of women have an abortion due to a risk to fetal health

2.8% of women have an abortion due to a risk to maternal health


So how many women’s lives have been saved by abortion?

Only about 3% of abortions since 1972 were reported to be “due to a risk to maternal health.” A reasonable person would recognize that not all of those cases represent a lethal risk. But let’s say they did. That means that nearly 45 million fetuses were butchered to save the lives of about 1.3 million women. Or put another way; 35 babies are killed to save each woman.

Abortion was legal in all 50 states prior to Roe v. Wade in cases of danger to the life of the woman.

Roe v Wade: FULL Text (The Decision that wiped out an entire Generation 33 years ago today)

5 posted on 06/02/2009 1:17:01 AM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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6 posted on 06/02/2009 1:22:41 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono
Idiot compassion.
7 posted on 06/02/2009 1:31:37 AM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: JoeProBono
So Ezra Klein has a "superb piece" in the Washington Post today. That paper is owned by Warren Buffett, and Warren has already said he's going to donate his billions to the abortion business

At the same time the Washington Post campaigned against former Senator George Allen's mother for being Jewish during WWII.

I fail to see where Ezra or his Oberkommander have an independent view in the matter, or that they have the standing to lecture others about "morality".

8 posted on 06/02/2009 5:43:31 AM PDT by muawiyah
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