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LOSS OF 86 IN SUBMARINE FEARED AS TIDE ENGULFS IT (6/3/39)
Microfiche-New York Times archives, McHenry Library, U.C. Santa Cruz | 6/3/39 | W.F. Leysmith

Posted on 06/03/2009 5:20:49 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: milhist; realtime
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1 posted on 06/03/2009 5:20:50 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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2 posted on 06/03/2009 5:21:43 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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3 posted on 06/03/2009 5:25:21 AM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I will tell you what I noticed: W. F. Leysmith is a reporter. Lots of facts, lots of good, solid description, not a shred of his own opinion to be found.


4 posted on 06/03/2009 6:08:32 AM PDT by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
This type of story is one reason why I enjoy reading the WWII+70 years threads. I had never heard of the Thetis before. In these days of nuclear submarines with underwater endurance based primarily on food supplies for the crew, this story points out just how fragile subs were and even when they weren't fully submerged they could be deathtraps.

After the Thetis was salvaged it was repaired and renamed the HMS Thunderbolt.

5 posted on 06/03/2009 6:35:08 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (No free man bows to a foreign king.)
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This type of story is one reason why I enjoy reading the WWII+70 years threads. I had never heard of the Thetis before.

Likewise. The Squalus stories from last week also came as a surprise to me. But did you ever notice that some things come in threes?

6 posted on 06/03/2009 6:59:32 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Does anyone recall the name of a U.S. submarine that sank in the ‘20s? It actually did not sink entirely, but plunged bow first into the mud at a near vertical angle with eight feet of the stern left above water. The crew was trapped for two days until they managed to drill through the hull with a hand brace and a file and raise a flag to attract attention. Incredibly, no one was even looking for them.
7 posted on 06/03/2009 7:05:19 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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Does anyone recall the name of a U.S. submarine that sank in the ‘20s?

A submarine designated only as S-4 sank near Cape Cod in 1927 after a collision. But the details don't sound like the incident you describe.

8 posted on 06/03/2009 7:38:15 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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USS S-5 on September 1, 1920.
9 posted on 06/03/2009 7:41:27 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (No free man bows to a foreign king.)
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"What ship?"
"S-5."
"What nationality?"
"American."
"Where bound?"
"Hell by compass."

LOL. (The submarine was standing on its nose.) It is hard to imagine that nobody realized they were overdue or having problems. That was a sleepy time for the U.S. Navy

10 posted on 06/03/2009 7:53:27 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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It is hard to imagine that nobody realized they were overdue or having problems. That was a sleepy time for the U.S. Navy

Were they overdue? They were out on the third day of sea trials. I don't know how long the sea trial was expected to be. I don't know if submarines were in regular radio contact with shore back then, or if they acted like in pre-radio days where they were sent on a mission and then came back when finished.

11 posted on 06/03/2009 7:59:43 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (No free man bows to a foreign king.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

HMS Thetis

12 posted on 06/03/2009 8:04:46 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: KarlInOhio
Were they overdue? They were out on the third day of sea trials. I don't know how long the sea trial was expected to be. I don't know if submarines were in regular radio contact with shore back then, or if they acted like in pre-radio days where they were sent on a mission and then came back when finished.

Good points. I overlooked the fact that this incident happened almost 90 years ago - no the 70 years I am accustomed too.

13 posted on 06/03/2009 2:04:08 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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