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China: Morphing UFO photographed in Taiyuan
allnewsweb ^ | 14 June 2009 | Michael Cohen

Posted on 06/13/2009 8:59:19 AM PDT by JoeProBono

On 6 June at around 6pm a Mr Goa was driving through the Chinese city of Taiyuan near the Yi-Fen bridge when he saw a totally unexplainable object or UFO hovering in the sky above him. Mr Goa pulled up at the side of the road and observed the object for around 40minutes. He managed to take a number of photos (below) with his mobile phone.

Mr Goa noted that the object changed shape from a diamond to an orb and while it generally stayed in the same area it swung from side to side before shooting up into the sky. At one point Mr Goa alleges that the UFO had a faint halo. Mr Goa handed his pictures in to the local astronomy station. He believes he witnessed an extraterrestrial vehicle.

China generally has more reported UFO sightings than any other country on earth and it is believed that the Chinese Government takes a keen interest in the topic.


TOPICS: UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: blackdotphenomenon; cameraflaw; flyingsaucers; fools; fringies; kooks; newagekooks; photography; snakeoil; truebelievers; ufo
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1 posted on 06/13/2009 8:59:19 AM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono
That's the XF-96 UAV from Dreamworks. It's got the Chinese mainland worried something fierce.

The larger, more heavily armed manned version can control up to 12 of these to gather data, provide targeting, and even establish either active or passive sensor curtains so that the manned version can down or destroy targets without ever emitting any EM itself.

2 posted on 06/13/2009 9:04:07 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: JoeProBono

Swamp gas.


3 posted on 06/13/2009 9:08:55 AM PDT by Big_Monkey
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4 posted on 06/13/2009 9:11:25 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Jeff Head

> That’s the XF-96 UAV from Dreamworks. It’s got the Chinese mainland worried something fierce. <

Dreamworks? (the movie production). Or is it either Skunk Works or Boeing’s Phantom Works?


5 posted on 06/13/2009 9:11:58 AM PDT by max americana
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To: max americana

Hehehe...it’s a joke.


6 posted on 06/13/2009 9:15:14 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Big_Monkey
Yeah it's all swamp gas, no worry ,we are the ultimate couldn't be anyone else out there.
7 posted on 06/13/2009 9:15:17 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: max americana

...sort of.


8 posted on 06/13/2009 9:15:28 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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9 posted on 06/13/2009 9:17:11 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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10 posted on 06/13/2009 9:25:28 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 145 of our national holiday from reality.)
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11 posted on 06/13/2009 9:33:39 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Notice how it is always right in the middle of the brightest spot in the image.. my bet is it is a compensation element of the camera.


12 posted on 06/13/2009 9:35:31 AM PDT by mnehring
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13 posted on 06/13/2009 9:38:06 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 145 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: Jeff Head

That’s classified information! Now you’ve gone and done it. Who do you think you are, The New York Times?


14 posted on 06/13/2009 9:39:06 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: JoeProBono

yep.. just checked, common issue with autofocus cameras taking pictures directly of the sun. Here are some more images of this flaw in cameras and some notes on it.

http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1249249785013929762BoMnfR

http://q80girl.blogspot.com/2005/02/real-explaination-of-previous-solar.html


15 posted on 06/13/2009 9:39:43 AM PDT by mnehring
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16 posted on 06/13/2009 9:42:51 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Your image got blocked.

neener neener neener

Mine’s bigger than yours.

neener neener neener


17 posted on 06/13/2009 9:44:38 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 145 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: JoeProBono

Maybe the guy is near sighted........this could be a ball on a power line to keep low flying air craft away.....


18 posted on 06/13/2009 9:48:45 AM PDT by Ecliptic
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19 posted on 06/13/2009 9:50:39 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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20 posted on 06/13/2009 9:56:59 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono
Oooooooo!

nully likes!

21 posted on 06/13/2009 10:12:01 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 145 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: JoeProBono

Could be a crappy camera...It’s always pointed at the sun in these pictures...He may have burned his CCD.


22 posted on 06/13/2009 10:24:40 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: JoeProBono
*shrugs and throws hands up* Okay, we admit it! This is a new weapon of the United States!

China! Be good or we'll use it on you!

*I hear the Muslims are pretty superstitous, too. Maybe we can use the threat of it on them.*

23 posted on 06/13/2009 10:30:33 AM PDT by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: mnehring

Actually it’s a flaw in the design then.
With audio processing, the solution is/was to cap the result at the maximum value and not let it be “truncated” or “wrapped”... the same should be done here.


24 posted on 06/13/2009 10:46:31 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: JoeProBono; ALASKA; airborne; A knight without armor; areafiftyone; aruanan; ...

THANKS.

UFO PING LIST “B” LIST PING.

Looks like a valid sighting and pics, to me.

The morphing bit has long been an interesting phenomenon . . . difficult to explain.

The belief that some Christians have that the craft are ‘nothing more’ than demons shaping themselves into various shaped craft might fit a few observations, comparatively. It doesn’t, imho, fit the majority of such sightings.

There’s too much other evidence that craft which have morphed have left tangible trace evidence which seems quite inconsistent, to me, with the craft=demonic beings 100%.

Of course, I do believe that the ‘pilots’ of such craft are in cahoots with satan toward setting up the world government just as demons are.

I agree with Guy Malone of

http://www.ANCIENTofDAYS.net

that demons were fallen angels who lost their bodies in Noah’s flood. Not all fallen angels did. It appears that 99.9% or more of the purported “ET’s” are fallen angels still with their bodies.

Anyway—it’s an interesting phenomenon with plenty of mystery and unknowns about it.

Thanks.


25 posted on 06/13/2009 10:56:10 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: mnehring

Given particular details of the China ren’s photos,

that explanation is thoroughly inadequate . . .

as usual.


26 posted on 06/13/2009 10:58:39 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: JoeProBono

Looks like that winged, orb thing that Harry Potter chases around on a broom, lol.


27 posted on 06/13/2009 11:03:52 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Quix

I’ve studied the antediluvian “Nephilim” phenomenon, via the Bible, various apocrypha/pseudoepigraphica, cultural myths and popular literature. So, I do have some level of familiarity.

I’ve seen many people claim that the fallen angels “lost their bodies” in the flood, but have not seen anything in my reading to support the claim that they were ever, literally incarnate. Their evil spawn, their “children,” were. Quite the number of these fallen ones, those who made an unholy pact with one another, were bound in the deepest depths of Sheol and are still there. But, there were “Nephilim” after the flood, so the possibility exists that either a few of them survived, or that the fallen, demons really, went back at it again.

So, what do you (and others) base this claim upon? What have I missed, did I misunderstand something, or ...?


28 posted on 06/13/2009 11:13:29 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Guy Malone and his sizeable group of experts are well represented on the DVD’s available at his website.

I don’t have all those details in my active memory.

They were convincing to me as I went through the many hours of presentations and testimony.

I forget which version of the BOOK OF ENOCH they referred to. But that was far from the only resource.

I don’t know that those details make a great deal of difference.

Whatever allegiance the critters have is the critical issue as St Paul asserted . . . if even an ‘angel from heaven’ preach any other Gospel, consider him accursed.


29 posted on 06/13/2009 11:16:58 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

I’m not entirely hostile to the interpretation you’re espousing, Quix. I’ve just seen the “lost their bodies” reference several times, and did not gain that understanding myself, from my readings.

I’m also not all that familiar with this Guy Malone, but the book that is widely accepted as being authentic, referenced in the Bible by John and by Jesus Christ, came to us by way of Ethiopia, and has been validated by numerous scroll finds. Hence, it’s known as the Ethiopic Book Of Enoch, or 1 Enoch. The other, known as the Slavonic, or 2 Enoch, is highly controversial and viewed as a fraud from the middle ages by many.


30 posted on 06/13/2009 11:44:46 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: JoeProBono

I think it’s overloaded pixels in the CCD camera. The guy is taking picture of the sun and the CCD cannot handle it.


31 posted on 06/13/2009 4:59:28 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: RegulatorCountry; Alamo-Girl

I think I understand about those two Enoch’s.

Isn’t there a preferred translation of the Ethiopian book of Enoch?

I’m really terrible about it—like I am names, ages, birthdays . . . Sheesh. I need to put it in a file where I can easily find it again! LOL. Maybe at the end of my END TIMES ping list.


32 posted on 06/13/2009 7:08:23 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Swordmaker

That does not at all explain various features of the image.

Not at all.


33 posted on 06/13/2009 7:08:59 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

The favored one is the first. In English, that is. It was apparently translated out of the original Aramaic into Greek and Latin early on, then fell into obscurity until Richard Laurence translated the Ethiopic texts in 1821.


34 posted on 06/13/2009 7:34:32 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Which is considered the most Biblical; the most referred to in the Bible?


35 posted on 06/13/2009 7:44:58 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; Richard Kimball
That does not at all explain various features of the image.

On the contrary, there are many clues in the photos that indicate artifacting due to inability of the camera's CCD to render the image properly because of overload. One of the most telling is the lens flare duplicates the solar disk visible but does not show the black object. If the black object were real, the flare reflection would also image it as a black object surrounded by bright light. The demonstrates that the CCD is capable of rendering the dimmer lens flare but fails on the direct image. The upper left telephoto image shows artifacting of pixelization in the wings to the left and right of the black disk where the CCDs cells are beginning to fail to respond. I could duplicate this image if I wanted to risk my digital camera. I don't care to put it at risk.

Richard Kimball, I recall you are a professional photographer. What do you think?

36 posted on 06/13/2009 7:58:47 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Quix

I wouldn’t call either of them “Biblical” per se, since they’re not Canonical. The references in the Bible that are clearly from Enoch can be found in 1 Enoch.


37 posted on 06/13/2009 8:01:36 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

THANKS.


38 posted on 06/13/2009 8:02:23 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: RegulatorCountry; ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; airborne; A knight without armor; albertp; ...

Thanks for your kind replies.

UFO LIST . . . here’s a very interesting video—shows what many folks over many years and many locations describe seeing.

However, the first 5/7ths of the video are uninteresting. The last several seconds are what’s interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPI5SbQPr1Y&eurl


39 posted on 06/13/2009 8:48:16 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: ALASKA; airborne; A knight without armor; areafiftyone; aruanan; A South Park Republican; auggy; ...

I gather folks at ATS are crying CGI . . .

however, they seem to cry CGI at everything. Nothing ever satisfies them.

Here’s another interesting with slow motion of the critical blink out at the end.

Even if these are CGI . . . which I’m no expert on . . .

they STILL illustrate what many people have seen thousands of times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-_OH6nu7V8


40 posted on 06/13/2009 9:01:16 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: ALASKA; airborne; A knight without armor; areafiftyone; aruanan; A South Park Republican; auggy; ...

This one has evidently been authenticated by some heavy duty folks . . . via Whitley Strieber’s site and connections:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread472791/pg1

source:

http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=7639

Clear UFO Photo Authenticated

13-Jun-2009
At 2:34 in the afternoon of May 31, the husband of an Unknowncountry.com subscriber happened to glance out a window of their Eden Isles, Louisiana home, which overlooks Lake Ponchatrain and has a wide view of the sky. To his amazement, he saw an unusual silver object hanging motionless in the clear blue, and took what has turned out to be one of the clearest and most detailed images ever made of a UFO.
The shot was taken with a 15 megapixel Sony digital camera with a 300 MM lens. It is not a computer generated graphic.

Unknowncountry’s photo analysts, special effects artist Steve Neill, filmmaker Dan Drasin and web designer Daniel Stegall have examined the image, and offer the following comments:

Dan Drasin:

“I must say it looks convincing. Not at all like what a typical faked saucer might look like. Assuming we’re looking at the front of it, it seems to have some kind of “tail” appendage. And the bottom edge has six or eight round nubbins of some kind. There’s some kind of apparent side protrusion as well, which looks almost like a cylindrical tank, but it could also be a reflection. No idea what the understructure is all about. It almost looks like a separate craft docked inside a larger enclosure. The color and material looks different.

“But these comments are all subjective. At this resolution, the likelihood is that we’re seeing false shapes to some extent. For all we know it might conceivably be one of those silvered Mylar helium balloons that’s partially deflated and reflecting distorted landscape features off its wrinkled bottom. That may be an extreme interpretation, but there’s simply not enough detail here to rule something like that out.”

Steve Neill:

“Whatever this is, after looking at it for some time now, and playing with different filters, I don’t believe it’s a Mylar balloon that’s losing gas and collapsing to form this shape. It very well could be, and I think Dan has made an excellent observation. But the form just seems to angular and sharp to me. Also the pod on its back is very precisely formed and symmetrical. It doesn’t appear to be Mickey mouse ears or any other such appendage that may appear on the balloons they make today. They make such a wide variety today, everything from butterflies to dragonflies I have purchased for my wife on occasions. This doesn’t look like any of them. It’s certainly not a CGI image either.”

Daniel Stegall:

“I agree with what everyone else has so far put forth. It’s an intriguing photo, but largely (and frustratingly) inconclusive due to the lack of other objects in frame.

“I also wanted to put another possibility out there. It might be some kind of UAV. Consider this: Cypher UAV.

“Not an exact match, but close enough to warrant consideration, though because this is a ducted form of propulsion, I would think that if the object in the photo was something like this UAV, its engine noise would have been audible at that distance.”

Steve Neill comments: “Since the SR-71 program was instituted, top secret aircraft are not flown over public areas.”

Wow! If you want to learn about MORE secrets and Visitor experiences, come to our Dreamland Festival in Nashville in June (but hurry, there are only a few tickets left!) And wear the best UFO T-shirt, designed by Steve Neill and ONLY available from us (because the “face” image is trademarked).


41 posted on 06/13/2009 9:11:44 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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I haven't ever taken a shot of the sun high in the sky like that, only when there's cloud cover or shortly before sunset where the atmosphere causes enough diffusion of the light to keep from damaging the sensor. My guess is with Swordmaker. The first clue is that the object is directly in front of the sun in all the pictures. The second is that there's blowing out of the dark objects closer to the camera. In the lower right picture, for example the light blows out the power lines and makes the tower a light gray-blue, instead of a full silhouette. If it were an object, it would similarly have light bleeding over the edges of the object as the light pole and the bridge in the upper right photo. Finally, the object would have to be huge to create that size silhouette

This looks like a pixel blowout to me.

42 posted on 06/13/2009 9:37:46 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Richard Kimball

THANKS MUCH.


43 posted on 06/13/2009 9:40:21 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; RegulatorCountry
There are several Enochs as RegulatorCountry mentioned. The most recent and best translation of all of them - considering the Dead Sea Scrolls and with scholarly footnotes - is not available online but in Charlesworth's Pseudepigrapha vol I.
44 posted on 06/13/2009 9:52:50 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: RegulatorCountry
"Looks like that winged, orb thing that Harry Potter chases around on a broom, lol."

The "Golden Snitch."

45 posted on 06/13/2009 9:57:53 PM PDT by redhead (Check out the Half-Baked Sourdough (shameless blog plug))
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To: Alamo-Girl

Didn’t you have a source location where one could order it once?

Sorry to bother again. Will put it on the bottom of my ping list this time.

Thx.


46 posted on 06/13/2009 10:20:57 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

I’m not one to “deflate” every single purported image of a “UFO,” but this one seems pretty clear. It’s a silver mylar balloon, with a flower silkscreened on it, yellow in the center and purple around the edges. The “protuberance” mentioned is where the balloon is tied off, and the string attached. The other details mentioned are due to the seam around the outside; it’s reflections off of puckers in the silver mylar.

Flower on a balloon. Sentimental. Not taken around Mother’s Day, was it?


47 posted on 06/13/2009 11:41:01 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Quix
they STILL illustrate what many people have seen thousands of times.

Love it. Carmina Burana...

48 posted on 06/14/2009 12:35:53 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Quix; RegulatorCountry
Sure, you can buy a copy of Charlesworth's "Pseudepigrapha" on this Amazon link.

But it is pricey.

You might be able to find it in a public library. But it is not on the internet. Moreover, the translations of Enoch available on the internet are quite old, inferior and do not have the scholarly commentary to put things in perspective.

49 posted on 06/14/2009 8:03:51 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

Ahhhh. Thanks.


50 posted on 06/14/2009 8:22:59 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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