Skip to comments.Sea gives up Neanderthal fossil [ dredged up from the North Sea ]
Posted on 06/15/2009 8:19:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
Scientists in Leiden, in the Netherlands, have unveiled the specimen -- a fragment from the front of a skull belonging to a young adult male. Analysis of chemical "isotopes" in the 30,000-60,000-year-old fossil suggest a carnivorous diet, matching results from other Neanderthal specimens... The Neanderthal frontal bone is the first known "archaic" human specimen to have been recovered from the sea bed anywhere in the world. It was found among animal remains and stone artefacts dredged up 15km off the coast of the Netherlands in 2001. The fragment was spotted by Luc Anthonis, a private fossil collector from Belgium, in the sieving debris of a shell-dredging operation... The North Sea fossil also bears a lesion caused by a benign tumour -- an epidermoid cyst -- of a type very rare in humans today... Dr Mike Richards, also from the Max Planck Institute in Leipzig, analysed... isotopes, of the elements nitrogen and carbon in the fossilised bone... results show he was an extreme carnivore, surviving on a diet consisting largely of meat... other research suggests that in Gibraltar, on the southern coast of Iberia, some Neanderthals were exploiting marine resources, including dolphins, monk seals and mussels. Researchers decided against carbon dating the specimen; this requires the preservation of a protein called collagen. Professor Hublin explained that while there was some collagen left in the bone, scientists would have needed to destroy approximately half of the fossil in order to obtain enough for dating.
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I thought I was going offline for the day.To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.The Neandertal EnigmaFrayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
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Let’s see how long it takes some moron to put “junkscience” in the keywords.
With heavy continental glaciation (ice age), the sea levels would have been lower by as much as 300 ft. There is likely a wealth of fossil and archaeological material offshore.
And here I never knew that Neanderthals were scuba divers...
Was it dredged up by a Chinese junk?
At least on these threads, i don’t see “science is stupid” and other interesting comments.
Would you please add me to the GGG ping list?
Yep. Bet there’s a lot of neat stuff under the waters of the Bearing strait.
No posting of an image of certain ancient ugly White House “correspondent”?
Fossils are devils tricks meant to fool men to the darkness.
I’d hate to tell you what that looks like to me.
Rhorschach would have fun with my brain!
Looks like an old piece of bakelite to me!
So...how do they find evidence of an epidermal cyst in a fossil bone?
Well, in their defense, it’s a new thread. ;’)
I noticed “junkscience” in the keywords of another thread this morning, and having run out of psych meds, I posted that comment up there. Ordinarily I try to ignore the foolishness.
For special occasions, I have some graphics I haven’t used in a while.
It has a fossilized epidermal cyst.
Most of the time (as the article sez) commonly given as the period of human origin, the continental shelves were exposed and the interior highlands covered in glaciers. So most evidence is probably down there, including (IMHO of course) submerged settlements, villages, towns, cities, etc.
Mammoth Herds ‘Roamed Fertile Bering Strait In Ice Age’
Ananova | 6-5-2003
Posted on 06/04/2003 3:39:25 PM PDT by blam
Check this out:
There are later settlements submerged on the bottom of the Aegean.