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Sea gives up Neanderthal fossil [ dredged up from the North Sea ]
BBC ^ | Monday, June 15, 2009 | Paul Rincon

Posted on 06/15/2009 8:19:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Scientists in Leiden, in the Netherlands, have unveiled the specimen -- a fragment from the front of a skull belonging to a young adult male. Analysis of chemical "isotopes" in the 30,000-60,000-year-old fossil suggest a carnivorous diet, matching results from other Neanderthal specimens... The Neanderthal frontal bone is the first known "archaic" human specimen to have been recovered from the sea bed anywhere in the world. It was found among animal remains and stone artefacts dredged up 15km off the coast of the Netherlands in 2001. The fragment was spotted by Luc Anthonis, a private fossil collector from Belgium, in the sieving debris of a shell-dredging operation... The North Sea fossil also bears a lesion caused by a benign tumour -- an epidermoid cyst -- of a type very rare in humans today... Dr Mike Richards, also from the Max Planck Institute in Leipzig, analysed... isotopes, of the elements nitrogen and carbon in the fossilised bone... results show he was an extreme carnivore, surviving on a diet consisting largely of meat... other research suggests that in Gibraltar, on the southern coast of Iberia, some Neanderthals were exploiting marine resources, including dolphins, monk seals and mussels. Researchers decided against carbon dating the specimen; this requires the preservation of a protein called collagen. Professor Hublin explained that while there was some collagen left in the bone, scientists would have needed to destroy approximately half of the fossil in order to obtain enough for dating.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: creation; doggerland; evolution; fossil; fossils; godsgravesglyphs; iceage; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; netherlands; northsea; science; underseaarcheology
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The fragment of skull belonged to a young adult male

Sea gives up Neanderthal fossil

1 posted on 06/15/2009 8:19:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

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Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
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2 posted on 06/15/2009 8:21:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Let’s see how long it takes some moron to put “junkscience” in the keywords.


3 posted on 06/15/2009 8:22:53 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

With heavy continental glaciation (ice age), the sea levels would have been lower by as much as 300 ft. There is likely a wealth of fossil and archaeological material offshore.


4 posted on 06/15/2009 8:24:30 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: SunkenCiv

And here I never knew that Neanderthals were scuba divers...


5 posted on 06/15/2009 8:24:57 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: SunkenCiv

Was it dredged up by a Chinese junk?


6 posted on 06/15/2009 8:25:29 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 146 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: SunkenCiv

At least on these threads, i don’t see “science is stupid” and other interesting comments.

Would you please add me to the GGG ping list?


7 posted on 06/15/2009 8:28:04 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: SunkenCiv
or GGG chimes in with a statement from one of these bogus ‘crevo’ institutes...
8 posted on 06/15/2009 8:28:15 AM PDT by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Yep. Bet there’s a lot of neat stuff under the waters of the Bearing strait.


9 posted on 06/15/2009 8:29:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: SunkenCiv

No posting of an image of certain ancient ugly White House “correspondent”?


10 posted on 06/15/2009 8:38:58 AM PDT by GQuagmire
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To: xcamel

Fossils are devils tricks meant to fool men to the darkness.

Happy now?


11 posted on 06/15/2009 8:40:45 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: GQuagmire
Hey, she could have been born twins.
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12 posted on 06/15/2009 8:43:17 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’d hate to tell you what that looks like to me.
Rhorschach would have fun with my brain!


13 posted on 06/15/2009 8:43:55 AM PDT by Monkey Face (RUN, SARAH, RUN! ~~ (Stolen from redhead))
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To: SunkenCiv

Looks like an old piece of bakelite to me!
So...how do they find evidence of an epidermal cyst in a fossil bone?


14 posted on 06/15/2009 8:44:41 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Confirm thy soul in self-control, thy liberty in law.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Well, in their defense, it’s a new thread. ;’)

I noticed “junkscience” in the keywords of another thread this morning, and having run out of psych meds, I posted that comment up there. Ordinarily I try to ignore the foolishness.

For special occasions, I have some graphics I haven’t used in a while.


15 posted on 06/15/2009 8:48:53 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

It has a fossilized epidermal cyst.


16 posted on 06/15/2009 8:49:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Most of the time (as the article sez) commonly given as the period of human origin, the continental shelves were exposed and the interior highlands covered in glaciers. So most evidence is probably down there, including (IMHO of course) submerged settlements, villages, towns, cities, etc.


17 posted on 06/15/2009 8:51:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: cripplecreek

Mammoth Herds ‘Roamed Fertile Bering Strait In Ice Age’
Ananova | 6-5-2003
Posted on 06/04/2003 3:39:25 PM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/923247/posts


18 posted on 06/15/2009 8:52:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

Check this out:

http://www.stonepages.com/news/archives/003062.html

There are later settlements submerged on the bottom of the Aegean.


19 posted on 06/15/2009 8:56:19 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Monkey Face

http://www.ibiblio.org/Dave/Dr-Fun/df200505/df20050530.jpg


20 posted on 06/15/2009 9:00:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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