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Bears and Other Predators Invade U.S. Neighborhoods
Popular Mechanics ^ | July 2009 | Erin McCarthy

Posted on 06/18/2009 8:42:07 AM PDT by jazusamo

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To: weps4ret

Agreed...We lived in a very rural part of OR for 15 years and though it wouldn’t compare to your surroundings the predators in the area had a fear of man because they realized they could get shot at, that makes a huge difference.

Though it’s possible that a predator could confront you they have a tendency to avoid man.


41 posted on 06/18/2009 10:02:35 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: NMEwithin

Funny you mention that, that’s the model I’m going to buy. Why? Because I can afford it, while the $1900 Bennelli is a little out of my reach right now.


42 posted on 06/18/2009 10:02:57 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: Androcles

Who knows, I might like your wife?


43 posted on 06/18/2009 10:02:57 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Androcles
My problem is that that definition is so broad it includes my wife!

LOL! Hope your wife is not a FReeper. :)

44 posted on 06/18/2009 10:06:48 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Yeah in Montana they have the 3S Rule.

Shoot, Shovel and Shut up.

Although you gotta find radio tags on the Grizzly and put it on a squirrel real fast.

Gunner


45 posted on 06/18/2009 10:07:03 AM PDT by weps4ret (Where is John Galt?)
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To: jazusamo
They want animals to enjoy the habitat they had 200 years ago.

Then we need to hunt and kill an awful lot of wildlife because the Indians had hunted the continent until it was nearly bereft of game. They had extirpated two thirds of megafauna species to the point that Lewis and Clark went 18 days without seeing a single animal.

Indians were NOT conservationists.

46 posted on 06/18/2009 10:09:31 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Polynikes
“In retrospect he should have cut the collar off, nailed it to a 2x4 and thrown it in the river then SSS.”

No, he should have gunshot it with any fast varmint bullet. It will run for miles and die far from where it was shot.

Rather hard to to determine what rifle an exploding bullet came from in any case.

47 posted on 06/18/2009 10:12:24 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: jazusamo
Common sense would seem to indicate that predators need to be hunted enough to recreate fear of man.
48 posted on 06/18/2009 10:16:22 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: jazusamo

The illogic of the idea that we are inviting attacks by going into areas where the wild animals are is that humans from earliest times have gone into areas where the wild animals were and still are. Tell me a place on the globe where humans exist where there weren’t or aren’t any wild animals. The premise of these people is that we are inviting attacks from the creatures by inhabiting or venturing into previously totally wild areas. Actually these people want humans all balled up into huge megalopolises where venturing into the “wild” will be strictly controlled.


49 posted on 06/18/2009 10:20:02 AM PDT by driftless2 (four)
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To: Retired Greyhound
"agree"

Disagree. Strongly.

50 posted on 06/18/2009 10:21:23 AM PDT by driftless2 (four)
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To: driftless2

Agree...lol.


51 posted on 06/18/2009 10:26:47 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: driftless2

Very good point and I couldn’t agree more.

For the most part people that move into wilderness type areas know exactly what they’re getting into, they’re not the ones complaining.

The people that move into housing tracts that are being built further and further into unpopulated areas and abut a wild area have every right to complain of predators roaming their neighborhoods, killing their pets and being a threat to their children.

The enviros don’t want those homes being built so they come up with the premise these people have to live with the predators. Ridiculous!


52 posted on 06/18/2009 10:31:52 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: stuartcr
Perhaps it should be re-written as; ...backyards are showing up precisely where they don’t belong: in wildlands.

Not true. We have had bear in my area in the last several years and this boro has been settled for over 200 years and probably hadn't seen a bear in 150 years or more.

There are just a hell of a lot more bears and they realy like garbage cans.

53 posted on 06/18/2009 10:38:04 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto

There are always exceptions, what I said is not written in stone. Of course there are some places like where you live. All the more reason to open up the hunting regs.


54 posted on 06/18/2009 10:40:59 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Indians were NOT conservationists.

Arguably the greatest single act of environmental destruction by humans in North America was the intentional burning by the Indians of the great Cumberland Valley that stretches from eastern Pennsylvania across Maryland and down the length of Virginia.

The primeval forest was destroyed and what remained became a barren grassland. Who knows how many species of flora and fauna were eliminated from this vast ecosystem. But for the Indian, the only important thing was to convert the area to grassland in order to more easily kill grazing herds of buffalo and deer with his primitive stone-age implements.

Indeed, early European visitors referred to the Cumberland Valley as "the barrens." By the time colonists began to settle in the valley, large stands of timber had returned in many places, but the original ecosystem was lost forever.

55 posted on 06/18/2009 10:48:11 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
I take it you've read Bonnicksen's book? If not, it's a good summary.
56 posted on 06/18/2009 10:55:05 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Polynikes

He didn’t notice a radio collar?


57 posted on 06/18/2009 11:03:56 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr
“He didn’t notice a radio collar?”

Don't know if he didn't notice it but probably had a somewhat naive attitude when dealing with bureaucrats. In other words didn't feel he did anything wrong in defending his livestock but got an expensive lesson in who had more “rights”

58 posted on 06/18/2009 11:20:52 AM PDT by Polynikes (Viene una tormenta)
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To: jazusamo
Gee ya think?

My backyard May 27 09.


59 posted on 06/18/2009 11:24:22 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: Beagle8U
I would be real reluctant to engage a grizzly with a varmint rifle and without the intention to drop it on the spot, especially when a food source is close by.
60 posted on 06/18/2009 11:25:16 AM PDT by Polynikes (Viene una tormenta)
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