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Hiring Joe Legal versus Hiring Jose Illegal!!!
6/22/9 | e-mail

Posted on 06/22/2009 7:55:52 AM PDT by ignorancerunsrampant

Here is an example of why hiring illegal aliens is not economically productive for the State of California ...You have 2 families..."Joe Legal" and "Jose Illegal". Both families have 2 parents, 2 children and live in California . "Joe Legal" works in construction, has a Social Security Number, and makes $25.00 per hour with payroll taxes deducted.... "Jose Illegal" also works in construction, has "NO" Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table".

Joe Legal...$25.00 per hour x 40 hours $1000.00 per week, $52,000 per year Now take 30% away for state federal tax. Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.

Jose Illegal...$15.00 per hour x 40 hours $600.00 per week, $31,200.00 per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes... Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00

Joe Legal pays Medical and Dental Insurance with limited coverage $1000.00 per month [$12,000.00 per year]. Joe Legal now has $19,231.00.

Jose Illegal has full Medical and Dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal makes too much money is not eligible for Food Stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays for food. $1,000.00 per month [$12,000.00 per year]. Joe Legal now has $ 7,231.00

Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for Food Stamps and Welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe Legal pays rent. $1,000.00 per month [$12,000.00 per year]. Joe Legal is now in the hole minus (-) $4,769.00.

Jose Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal pays rent. $500.00 per month (section 8 housing). $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $25,200.00.

Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.

Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family (and eat out!).

Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored breakfast & lunch, and they also qualify to be "bused to school" at tax payer expense.

Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal's children have to find a way to get to school and go home after school as, "latch-key kids" with no adult supervision.

Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same Police and Fire Services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.

Jose Illegal can send most of his money back home to build a new home for retirement, and have money to buy a new truck (and still have Medi-Cal benefits while living in a foreign country; until someone turns him in to authorities....if they ever find out!!)

Joe will be lucky if he has any money for retirement, a new vehicle, medical/dental benefits, or a place to live.

I have done the math, all you have to do is to look at it yourself. Don't hire illegal aliens.....Don't vote for any politician that supports illegal aliens.....And most important of all, write your politicians and let them know how you feel

PS: You forgot, Jose illegal's wife claims "single, no head of Household" and collects additional benefits that Joe legal's wife cannot claim.

No wonder our country is in trouble!! Think about it!


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aliens; democratvoters; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; lllegals; ripoff
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To: wrhssaxensemble
But that has absolutely nothing to do with the inequalities between Jose and Joe.

It does though. Jose will spend it on a car that Joe can't afford. Jose will by more tequila that Joe can't afford. Clearly Jose's money will go back into both economies: Black market and real. Joe, unfortunately, has been compromised into subsidizing the man who is doing everything illegal.

21 posted on 06/22/2009 9:12:02 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: DoctorTomorrow
And don’t forget, Jose Illegal’s employer gets to keep an extra $20,800. That’s why, from his perspective, it’s not a bad idea.

With that amount, or more, per employee, I'd guess the employer also wouldn't be too concerned about a measly $5000 fine once every five or ten years.

22 posted on 06/22/2009 9:17:47 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

Verify range to target. One ping only.


23 posted on 06/22/2009 9:26:55 AM PDT by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: raybbr

Right but my point is that the government stealing from Joe to give to Jose does not have any net benefit on the US economy; if anything it is a loss in favor of Jose’s home country


24 posted on 06/22/2009 9:36:31 AM PDT by wrhssaxensemble (Piyush "Bobby" Jindal in 2012 after Obama makes an even bigger mess of everything)
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To: wrhssaxensemble
Right but my point is that the government stealing from Joe to give to Jose does not have any net benefit on the US economy; if anything it is a loss in favor of Jose’s home country

Without a doubt. But you can't say that Jose's money/earnings is a total loss to the U.S. economy which this article/letter implies.

25 posted on 06/22/2009 9:38:27 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

“Jose Illegal receives a $500 per month Federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal pays rent. $500.00 per month (section 8 housing). $6,000.00 per year.”

More likely his monthly payment would be less than $50.

I do work on a condo that rents for $1,850/mo. and section 8 pays all but $50 of it.


26 posted on 06/22/2009 9:43:01 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: rabscuttle385

Bump


27 posted on 06/22/2009 10:53:17 AM PDT by MissNomer (Proud member of FR's "Final 300")
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To: raybbr

no. That is true. But it is certainly less of a gain than if Joe did not have to prop up Jose. Further, it is much more of a gain for Mexico or whatever Jose’s home country is than for the US


28 posted on 06/22/2009 10:55:24 AM PDT by wrhssaxensemble (Piyush "Bobby" Jindal in 2012 after Obama makes an even bigger mess of everything)
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To: ignorancerunsrampant

“Don’t vote for any politician that supports illegal aliens.”

Well, everyone who voted for McShamnesty & Palin did.

How about we learn from our mistakes.


29 posted on 06/22/2009 5:54:49 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (PALIN - Supports a "path to citizenship" for ILLEGAL ALIENS.........../.......... Sanford '12)
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To: raybbr

Your post and defense of Jose make a case for a fair tax or national sales tax. Even drug dealers spend money, even ILLEGALS spend money.


30 posted on 06/23/2009 5:35:44 AM PDT by Tspud1
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To: Kimberly GG

McCain was so the wrong guy for the job. I LOVE the Republican party, but we have to move away from the ... “it’s his turn bullshnit”. Anyone could have beaten Clinton one-on-one in his second term run, only Bob Dole could lose in a three way race. But it was his turn. Me thinks Romney would have done a much better job than McCain. Romney/Jindahl, Romney/Palin, Pawlenty/Jindahl, Pawlenty/Palin. Hopefully we find the right candidate for the job and ask the guy who thinks it is his turn to step aside in 2012.


31 posted on 06/23/2009 7:59:02 AM PDT by ignorancerunsrampant (Where is the Court of Common Sense?)
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