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Warp Drive Engine Could Suck Earth Into Black Hole
Discovery News ^ | June 11, 2009 | Eric Bland

Posted on 06/23/2009 6:17:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

"Star Trek" makes faster-than-light travel look easy, but according to new calculations by Italian physicists, a warp drive could easily create a black hole that would incinerate any passengers on a space craft and then suck Earth into a black hole. "Warp drives are so far the best case scenario to attain faster-than-light travel," said Stefano Finazzi of Italy's International School for Advanced Studies. This paper "makes it much harder to realize, if not almost impossible, warp drives." ...Other physicists agree with the Italians' calculations, up to a point. "It's a good paper; their results are sound," said Gerald Cleaver, a professor of physics at Baylor University who reviewed the work. The results make sense, at least, when creating warp drive using exotic matter in a universe where 1 plus 1 equals 2. In a universe where 1 plus 1 equals 3, a possibility with string theory instead of the semi classical physics used by the Italians, a stable warp drive is viable. Last year Cleaver and co-author Richard Obousy detailed a string theory-based warp drive that creates a bubble of space time by expanding one of the tiny, rolled-up dimensions (instead of a bubble of dark energy) predicted by string theory. The biggest sticking point to a extra dimension-based warp drive? The entire mass of Jupiter would have to be converted into pure energy to power it.

(Excerpt) Read more at dsc.discovery.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: blackhole; startrek; stringtheory; warpdrive
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1 posted on 06/23/2009 6:17:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 06/23/2009 6:18:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.troopathon.org/index.php -- June 25th -- the Troopathon)
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To: KevinDavis
Ping!
3 posted on 06/23/2009 6:18:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.troopathon.org/index.php -- June 25th -- the Troopathon)
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To: SunkenCiv

Don’t tell me we’re all going to die ....again!


4 posted on 06/23/2009 6:20:35 PM PDT by Jeffrey_D.
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To: SunkenCiv

Warp Drive Engine Could Suck Earth Into Black Hole

Well AWRIGHT then! Tha'd be kinda cool :)

5 posted on 06/23/2009 6:21:00 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: SunkenCiv

That isn’t a “Warp Drive Engine!” That’s the Obamacoms’ political agenda! And yes! We are being sucked into a black hole.


6 posted on 06/23/2009 6:21:05 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out? Are you scared yet?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Warp drive will cause black holes?? Oh, no, what do we do!!!!


7 posted on 06/23/2009 6:21:05 PM PDT by SandWMan (Even if you can't legislate morality, you can legislate morally.)
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To: SunkenCiv

So we’re all stuck.


8 posted on 06/23/2009 6:21:07 PM PDT by allmost
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To: SunkenCiv
Dang! I'm glad I read this. Note to self: quit buying particle accelerator and warp drive plans off of the internet.

Anybody in the market for a bunch of mono-pole magnets?

/johnny

9 posted on 06/23/2009 6:21:48 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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Quantum Setback For Warp Drives [back to the drawing board]
Slashdot | 4/3/9 | kdawson
Posted on 04/03/2009 8:50:10 AM PDT by Clint Williams
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2221572/posts


10 posted on 06/23/2009 6:23:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.troopathon.org/index.php -- June 25th -- the Troopathon)
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To: SunkenCiv
"The Force, shall protect us."
Yoda said so.

11 posted on 06/23/2009 6:23:57 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Zer0Bambi to the poor voter: "Welcome to Obamacare, Now Die!" :^)
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warp drive black hole site:freerepublic.com
Google

12 posted on 06/23/2009 6:24:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.troopathon.org/index.php -- June 25th -- the Troopathon)
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To: SunkenCiv
The entire mass of Jupiter would have to be converted into pure energy to power it.

Yes, but it will create 2 million new Green Jobs in 5 years. Therefore the government is going to spend 23 trillion dollars to invent this new technology.

13 posted on 06/23/2009 6:24:17 PM PDT by Hugin (GSA! (Goodbye sweet America))
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To: SunkenCiv

I despise this crap BTW. I like the list. Check it out, tell me what you think...


14 posted on 06/23/2009 6:24:25 PM PDT by allmost
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To: SunkenCiv

15 posted on 06/23/2009 6:25:21 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: SunkenCiv
Warp Drive Engine Could Suck Earth Into Black Hole

WRONG! The CERN LHC will do it first.

16 posted on 06/23/2009 6:25:27 PM PDT by LiberConservative
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To: JRandomFreeper

The *worst* part of this news is, the freakin’ Enterprise spends so much time in the 20th century that we’ve probably all been sucked into the black hole for years already. Hmm, it is pretty dark out...


17 posted on 06/23/2009 6:25:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.troopathon.org/index.php -- June 25th -- the Troopathon)
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To: allmost
LOL... Wait a sec'...
I despise this crap BTW. I like the list. Check it out, tell me what you think...
Okay, now, that created a mind warp... [surfs some websites] okay, good, not the same thing...
18 posted on 06/23/2009 6:26:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.troopathon.org/index.php -- June 25th -- the Troopathon)
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To: SunkenCiv
"Star Trek" makes faster-than-light travel look easy, but according to new calculations by Italian physicists, a warp drive could easily create a black hole that would incinerate any passengers on a space craft and then suck Earth into a black hole.

And pull an asteroid in just for good measure...


19 posted on 06/23/2009 6:27:32 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Theology is the Queen Of The Sciences)
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To: SunkenCiv

Warp Drive Engine Could Suck Earth Into Black Hole

No chance - Obama’s gonna get us there first.


20 posted on 06/23/2009 6:28:35 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Turns out we can reverse the effect with a Evird Praw. Dang, that was close.


21 posted on 06/23/2009 6:29:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.troopathon.org/index.php -- June 25th -- the Troopathon)
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To: SunkenCiv

It turtles all the way down you know...


22 posted on 06/23/2009 6:29:45 PM PDT by allmost
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To: SunkenCiv

"She's gone from suck to blow"

23 posted on 06/23/2009 6:31:20 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SunkenCiv
i suppose starting it a goodly distance AWAY from earth would be tooo much to ask...
24 posted on 06/23/2009 6:32:53 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: SunkenCiv
Evird Praw


25 posted on 06/23/2009 6:33:42 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight (#9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9 #9#9 #9 #9 #9 #9)
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To: JRandomFreeper
How about a zenith pulsar plasma accelerator ?
26 posted on 06/23/2009 6:34:59 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Right on!!!

Those calculations I bet assume Newton’s G at small scale when in fact G
may be G* ~ 10^40 times larger than Newton’s G on the relevant
micro-scale! Note that 10^20 is square root of 10^40 so that a quantum
gravity effect of order (Lp*/L) scales as (G*/G)^1/2

s/o


27 posted on 06/23/2009 6:36:37 PM PDT by Jeffrey_D.
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To: SunkenCiv

Warp Drive Engine Could Suck Earth Into Black Hole

Daffy Duck (Duck Dodgers): “Whoops...had the silly thing in reverse” Batta-bing


28 posted on 06/23/2009 6:43:06 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
Can I build one in the garage?

/johnny

29 posted on 06/23/2009 6:44:29 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The Zenith Pulsar is kind of difficult to get..... but, it might be doable ...


30 posted on 06/23/2009 6:46:26 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m more worried about Chicago!


31 posted on 06/23/2009 6:46:52 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Warp Drive Engine Could Suck Earth Into Black Hole”

But, wouldn’t we just come out the other side... ? LOL...


32 posted on 06/23/2009 6:47:44 PM PDT by Star Traveler (I personally oppose shooting abortionists, but I do not believe in imposing my morality on others.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Ohhh darn it ... I forgot to tell you....
It only comes in left handed reverse .. but, you might be able to ( if you tweek it ) to be a right handed forward accelerator....
Ohh yeah ? BTW ?? I also forgot ? DON'T PUSH THE GREEN BUTTON !!!
33 posted on 06/23/2009 6:49:49 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Well... damn.

So what you’re saying is, I shouldn’t have bought 1,000 shares of Allied Warp Systems at $95 a share.


34 posted on 06/23/2009 6:56:56 PM PDT by john in springfield
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35 posted on 06/23/2009 7:01:45 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Can't Stop the Signal!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Note to self: quit buying particle accelerator and warp drive plans off of the internet.

Psssst. Hey bud, look, I got these drive plans here, only slightly used, at that by a major manufacturer, if I told
you the name you’d recognize them right off the bat.
Look these are good plans, government plans, but keep it
under your hat ok?
I call this the “TARP” drive and I can let you have it cheap
just write me at Obama.surplusdrives.gov


36 posted on 06/23/2009 7:11:46 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Gone to Plaid
37 posted on 06/23/2009 7:16:10 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: tet68
I call this the “TARP” drive and I can let you have it cheap

My understanding is that the TARP drive creates paper out of thin air and printing presses and can cause an uncontrolled economic implosion if activated..... I dunnno.

/johnny

38 posted on 06/23/2009 7:21:16 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Yes, but would anybody really miss it?


39 posted on 06/23/2009 7:24:05 PM PDT by pankot
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To: pankot

No, I’m afraid it is the black hole that will swallow the earth!


40 posted on 06/23/2009 7:25:33 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: SunkenCiv

"Captain, your misgivings about the warp engines are duly noted. But, as the ranking officer on board, I ORDER you to set out for Starbase 12 immediately at maximum warp speed."

41 posted on 06/23/2009 7:31:17 PM PDT by matt1234
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To: SunkenCiv
"It'll never fly...."


42 posted on 06/23/2009 7:35:18 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: Dallas59

"Don't listen to them."

43 posted on 06/23/2009 7:43:09 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO = "Throw All The Bums Out")
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To: matt1234

TOO COOL ,, a RED shirt and a flunky of the Evil Kirk!


44 posted on 06/23/2009 7:56:21 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: JRandomFreeper

Actually the “tarp” drive relies on two government officials to shovel newly printed money into the ionization
chamber, thus creating hot gas which propels congress forward. It’s rather slow and ponderous but it works fine as long as the paper and ink holds out.


45 posted on 06/23/2009 8:03:18 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Casper Lindley: She can't be serious, can she? Vaporize the whole damn planet?
Buckaroo Banzai: You wanna roll all those dice, Casper?
Casper Lindley: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not me, man, not me.

46 posted on 06/23/2009 8:54:52 PM PDT by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Scientist 1: “...a warp drive could easily create a black hole that would incinerate any passengers on a space craft and then suck Earth into a black hole.”

Scientist 2: “Let’s do it.”


47 posted on 06/23/2009 9:44:58 PM PDT by swatbuznik
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Dude, just buy a Nissan Pulsar and install a Zenith in it. You’ll be mad pimpin’!


48 posted on 06/23/2009 9:46:15 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: SunkenCiv

bump


49 posted on 06/23/2009 10:02:06 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: SunkenCiv

thanks, bfl


50 posted on 06/24/2009 12:39:38 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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