Barack Obama’s Birth Certificate “Industry”

News and Free PR ^ | June 24, 2009 | Unknown (and Andy Martin)

[real_patriotic_american]

When Internet Powerhouse Andy Martin wrote his first column on Barack Obama’s family history and birth certificate, Andy had no idea he was creating an “industry” that would pursue Obama’s records to the ends of the earth. Although Obama’s mouthpiece Robert Gibbs says the BC has been released (Gibbs lies) and Fox News’ Shepard Smith has insulted people who question Obama’s missing records, Andy’s Army continues to battle Obama & Company to find the facts and tell the truth about Obama’s hidden “roots.”

(Includes article by Andy Martin.... read on)

[real_patriotic_american]

Hey Obama, where's the birth certificate? No, not the COLB. We need to see your original long form birth certicate, school records, passports, etc. You are required to be a natural born American citizen to serve as President. It appears that you may NOT be eligible.

[NoLibZone]

Author and his supporters are against public officials being pushed to release BC, immigration status, passport, medical, and school records.

[real_patriotic_american]

Includes some good info by Andy Martin.

[blueyon]

According to this blog
http://centurean2.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/new-info-on-obamas-birth-certificate-lawsuit/
They say that they are looking at Obama have multiple Social Security numbers........does any one know how to find that out?

[hoosiermama]

FYI

[real_patriotic_american]

I’m not aware of where you could research this info, but I know that he has used several different names (i.e. Barry Soetoro).

Re: “According to this blog
http://centurean2.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/new-info-on-obamas-birth-certificate-lawsuit/
They say that they are looking at Obama have multiple Social Security numbers........does any one know how to find that out?”

[Eye of Unk]

There is indeed some funny business about Obamas family and SS numbers, if I remember right his mothers SS was being used by someone in Washington state and yet again on the east coast AFTER her death.

Reminds me of the movie, “Coneheads” the “aliens” get tracked down because they bought some phony ID and it turns out a LOT of people were conned into buying the exact same social security number.

[real_patriotic_american]

An excerpt from Martin’s article:

“My case is currently pending in the Hawai’i Intermediate Court of Appeals. (You can check their online docket, Martin v. Lingle.)”

[mrmeangenes]

Hey ! Andy Martin !!

Who would EVER question something he said ??

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/us/politics/13martin.html

(That’s just one of many.)

[TheBigJ]

Here’s compiled dirt on Zero via Orly Taitz... the ss#’s are near the bottom:

http://defendourfreedoms.org/letterHolder.htm

[Non-Sequitur]

bump

[Costumed Vigilante]

an “industry” that would pursue Obama’s records to the ends of the earth.

They shouldn't have to be pursued at all, they should be a matter of public record. Unless, of course, he isn't who he says he is.

[real_patriotic_american]

The article that you presented does not show a true picture of the issue. There are some 38 cases across the country pending against Obama challenging his natural born citizenship (or lack of).

Re: “Hey ! Andy Martin !!

Who would EVER question something he said ??

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/us/politics/13martin.html

(That’s just one of many.)”

[ViLaLuz]

When a professional such as a doctor or professor is discovered to have gained his position fraudulently, he is made to resign.

[real_patriotic_american]

I’ll go with this or his birthplace which I believe to be Kenya.

Re: “............. Unless, of course, he isn’t who he says he is.”

[real_patriotic_american]

I’ll agree to that!!

Re: “When a professional such as a doctor or professor is discovered to have gained his position fraudulently, he is made to resign.”

[RebelTXRose]

Orly Taiz had some information on that - apparently there was also mortgage fraud - allegedly, of course.

[Wild Irish Rogue]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/us/politics/13martin.html

” For a few childhood years, Mr. Obama lived in Indonesia with a stepfather he described as loosely following a liberal Islam. “

Bzzzz. Wrong.
The New York Times should check what the New York Times has previously reported.
May 18, 2008 New York Times-
Obama and Michelle lived in Bali, Indonesia
( the place where Islamic terrorists in 2002 blew up the nightclub killing over 200 )
for six months ,possibly longer in 1994
so Barry could have peace and quiet to write Dreams From My Father.

That’s why he was able to sing the Muslim
call to prayer, “ the most beautiful sound in the world “
“ in pitch perfect Arabic “
for Nicolas Kristof of the NYT.
It never made sense that Obama remembered it from his childhood.
Obama knew it from his adulthood.
As did Michelle.

” His half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, said he eventually retreated to Bali for several months with his wife, Michelle,
“to find a peaceful sanctuary where there were no phones.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/18/us/politics/18memoirs.html?ei=5124&en=06380c5da09c3c80&ex=1368849600&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink&pagewanted=all

Some Bali bloggers say the Obamas lived in Indonesia for one to two years.

[ckilmer]

Here is Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"



Here in plain English is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.



Obama's own flacks deny that obama was born in Kenya but do acknowledge that he had a dual citizenship up until 1982

from obama's own site factcheck.org by way of fightthesmears on his dual citizenship at birth

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”
Someone will want to cache the above web page because it will be taken down eventually.
It is well established that Obama did travel to Indonesia and Pakistan in 1981. In a tape of his speech at this April 6, 2008 San Francisco Fundraiser, Obama discloses his trip to Pakistan (40:17) when he was in college. On what passport did he travel?

A last arguement for baraks people might be that of course the Kenyans would have an interest in claiming that obama was a "son of the soil" both as a matter of pride and as a matter of bucks coming their way. However, if Obama was not born in Kenya -- then why wouldn't Obama release his original long form birth certificate. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. On top of that according to the LA Times since the election -- the Kenyans feel that Obama has gone out of his way to snub/ignore/distance-himself them. The Kenyans are putting up reasons like perhaps they are insufficiently perfected for him to notice them--but here in the USA we have seen Obama throw a number of embarrasing people from his past under the bus. Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?

The thing has become a joke in washington. dJoe Biden Joked at the Gridiron Dinner in March 09.

After mentioning one of the Republican speakers for the evening, Arnold Schwarzenegger, was born in Austria and that one of the Democratic speakers, Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, was born in Canada, Biden chortled: "Folks, this is going to be Lou Dobbs' worst nightmare. "

From there, Biden transitioned to the birth certificate controversy.

Les Kinsolving asked the Presidential Press Secretary Gibbs to release the long form birth certificate. The press secretary suggested mockingly that the copy of the short form birth certificate supplied online is Obama's long form birth certificate. Not so. See the press conference out take here.

The White House 'dialogue' site has to be scrubbed regularly because of long form birth certificate eligibility posts. Rush Limbaugh joked several times on his radio show on 6/10/09: "What do God and Obama have in commen? (Answer) Neither have birth certificates."

[ckilmer]

A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the recording here

The quote is around 12:35, so if you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:

Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born

Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive

Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there

Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.

Here is an abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.

It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --you’ll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.

First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.

Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.

He used the same technique on the question of Obama’s birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."

Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.

Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.

Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference. Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..

They are the same.


Subsequently, the Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:

"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."

However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.

"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."

While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in Kenya
There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in Kenya but rather that he is a "son of this village". However, witnesses insist that she said she was present at obama's birth in Kenya. If taken alone, perhaps she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.

Again here is a pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:

HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA

Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.

(Applause)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.



Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

The American Thinker explains here why the short form that Obama released is not sufficient for Hawaii. The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers over 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Why bother. The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)

Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that. Here's a footnoted timeline of obama's life 1961-2008. Its especially helpful to look at 1961 and 2008. Of interest is this: Interesting timeline with footnotes of obama's life.

of note

On April 10, 2008 Senator Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduces Senate Resolution S. Res. 511 to “recognize that John Sidney McCain is a natural born citizen.” The resolution is allegedly meant to clarify that McCain is eligible to be President even though he was born in Panama. Because McCain’s parents were both Americans and he was born in Panama because his father was stationed there while in the military, existing law already covers McCain and he is eligible to be President. McCaskill’s resolution thus serves no purpose – except that language is included to try and provide a “blanket cover” for other foreign born candidates without military backgrounds, in order to enable Obama to be eligible to be President. This is the language that Obama inserted “Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President;” This Clause has no particular relevance to McCain [The language is inserted by Obama.][301,303]

301# http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/obama-born-in-kenya-new-information/#more-3844

303 # http://watchdog.net/b/us/110/sr511