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Rabbit-Size Elephant Ancestor Found -- Oldest Known
nationalgeographic ^ | June 23, 2009 | Mark Anderson

Posted on 06/25/2009 10:10:39 AM PDT by JoeProBono

After the dinosaurs perished, life on Earth didn't take long to bounce back, a new study suggests.

A newfound 60-million-year-old creature called Eritherium azzouzorum—the oldest known elephant ancestor—bolsters the case that whole new orders of mammals were already around less than 6 million years after global catastrophe ended the age of reptiles some 65.5 million years ago.

Paleontologist Emmanuel Gheerbrant discovered the rabbit-size proto-elephant's skull fragments in a basin 60 miles (100 kilometers) east of Casablanca, Morocco.

Elephant ancestors, he said, now join the likes of rodents and early primates as some of the first known mammals to walk the Earth during the Paleocene era, 65.5 to 55 million years ago (prehistoric time line).

Much of the story of the newly discovered creature, said Gheerbrant, of the National Museum of Natural History in Paris, can be found in its teeth. Two of the creature's lower front teeth jut a fraction of an inch out from its jaw. No other fossils of the time have teeth like this.

"This is some kind of precursor of the tusk of the more modern [elephant]," Gheerbrant said.

Based on the skull fragments, Gheerbrant guessed that the proto-elephant was probably no more than 20 inches (50 centimeters), tip to tail—"something like a very large rabbit," size wise.


TOPICS: Pets/Animals; Science
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; elephant; freepun; godsgravesglyphs; junkscience; oldearthspeculation; sciencefiction; spontaneouslifers; storkzilla
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1 posted on 06/25/2009 10:10:39 AM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

I saw an elephant about that size the last time I ran out of scotch.


2 posted on 06/25/2009 10:13:13 AM PDT by mysterio
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3 posted on 06/25/2009 10:13:55 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: mysterio

I’m guessing he was pink?


4 posted on 06/25/2009 10:15:19 AM PDT by Blackacre
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To: All

5 posted on 06/25/2009 10:15:29 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono
'Elephants are the new dogs.'


6 posted on 06/25/2009 10:15:34 AM PDT by Daffynition ("If any of you die, can I please have your ammo?" ~ Gator113)
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7 posted on 06/25/2009 10:16:31 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Blackacre; mysterio; JoeProBono
I’m guessing he was pink?


8 posted on 06/25/2009 10:19:24 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Eschew exclamatory abuse.)
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To: JoeProBono

9 posted on 06/25/2009 10:19:39 AM PDT by Daffynition ("If any of you die, can I please have your ammo?" ~ Gator113)
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To: Constitution Day
"I’m guessing he was pink?"

Yup.


10 posted on 06/25/2009 10:21:51 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Now if it had been Elephant-sized ancestors of rabbits I’d be interested. ;)


11 posted on 06/25/2009 10:22:16 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: JoeProBono

well this explains the wusspublicans. genetically evolved to run from predators (libholes, demholes, MSMwhores) rather than fight


12 posted on 06/25/2009 10:23:07 AM PDT by wny
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To: JoeProBono

well this explains the wusspublicans. genetically evolved to run from predators (libholes, demholes, MSMwhores) rather than fight


13 posted on 06/25/2009 10:23:12 AM PDT by wny
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To: JoeProBono
This has nothing to do with mini elephants but I thought Jessica Biel could use some more love....
14 posted on 06/25/2009 10:23:14 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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15 posted on 06/25/2009 10:23:41 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Daffynition; JoeProBono

I’d love to see a stampede of rabbit-sized elephants.

That would be pretty much the cutest stampede ever.


16 posted on 06/25/2009 10:24:11 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Eschew exclamatory abuse.)
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17 posted on 06/25/2009 10:25:48 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: NMEwithin

Female baby elephant born at the Pittsburgh Zoo has nothing to do with Jessica Biel


18 posted on 06/25/2009 10:29:12 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Let me know when they find the Elephant-sized Rabbit!


19 posted on 06/25/2009 10:30:08 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: NMEwithin
It's considered bad form to hijack a thread, but you are forgiven since Jessica Biel is Not Guilty.

Ever.

20 posted on 06/25/2009 10:30:27 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Eschew exclamatory abuse.)
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Read carefully!

What did they find?


21 posted on 06/25/2009 10:34:02 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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22 posted on 06/25/2009 10:34:33 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Constitution Day
I apologize for the hijack...here is a tiny elephant in the wild...or is it? ;)


23 posted on 06/25/2009 10:37:26 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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To: JoeProBono
Based on the skull fragments, Gheerbrant guessed

What passes for "science" these days.

24 posted on 06/25/2009 10:40:10 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Fight from where you stand)
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To: Daffynition

I want one.


25 posted on 06/25/2009 10:40:21 AM PDT by Varda
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To: JoeProBono; SunkenCiv

Behold! The Mini Mammoth


26 posted on 06/25/2009 10:43:30 AM PDT by wildbill ( The reason you're so jealous is that the voices talk only to me.)
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To: Constitution Day
LOL ... You can dream!

[How ya doin' CD? We're still not out of about a month of monsoon weather ...my tomato plants are starting to yellow without the sun!]

27 posted on 06/25/2009 10:44:51 AM PDT by Daffynition ("If any of you die, can I please have your ammo?" ~ Gator113)
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28 posted on 06/25/2009 10:46:53 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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29 posted on 06/25/2009 10:47:47 AM PDT by Daffynition ("If any of you die, can I please have your ammo?" ~ Gator113)
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To: JoeProBono
Based on the skull fragments, Gheerbrant guessed that the proto-elephant was probably no more than 20 inches (50 centimeters), tip to tail—"something like a very large rabbit," size wise.

I wonder if what they are looking at is a proto-hyrax. The small rodent-like albeit hooved hyrax are considered by some to be related to elephants.

30 posted on 06/25/2009 10:50:44 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Daffynition
HaHaHaHa!! You're too good.


31 posted on 06/25/2009 10:51:07 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono
Two of the creature's lower front teeth jut a fraction of an inch out from its jaw. No other fossils of the time have teeth like this. "This is some kind of precursor of the tusk of the more modern [elephant]," Gheerbrant said.

Sounds more like the lower front teeth of a modern hyrax.

32 posted on 06/25/2009 10:55:15 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Daffynition

Tomato plants are doing great here.

We’ve had just about the right amount of rain and the corn and squash are already coming off.


33 posted on 06/25/2009 11:00:52 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Eschew exclamatory abuse.)
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To: JoeProBono

Will it fit in my crock-pot?


34 posted on 06/25/2009 11:01:00 AM PDT by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Their problem is not WHAT they found it is their dating methodology used to plug the holes in their dating dikes.
35 posted on 06/25/2009 11:04:43 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Bama and Company are reenacting the Pharaoh as told by Moses in Genesis!!!!!)
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36 posted on 06/25/2009 11:05:05 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Harvey?


37 posted on 06/25/2009 11:22:53 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Just mythoughts
"Their problem is not WHAT they found..."

Skull fragments! - This is the Pecary tooth all over again.

38 posted on 06/25/2009 11:28:02 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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39 posted on 06/25/2009 11:29:52 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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40 posted on 06/25/2009 11:47:28 AM PDT by Daffynition ("If any of you die, can I please have your ammo?" ~ Gator113)
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41 posted on 06/25/2009 11:49:02 AM PDT by Daffynition ("If any of you die, can I please have your ammo?" ~ Gator113)
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To: editor-surveyor

Thanks for the ping!


42 posted on 06/25/2009 12:56:31 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Just mythoughts
“it is their dating methodology used to plug the holes in their dating dikes.”

I'm sorry, but when Dykes are dating they certainly are not plugging holes. Kindly rethink your assertion and re-post.

43 posted on 06/25/2009 1:02:14 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Calling all Son's of Liberty)
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Thanks wildbill!
44 posted on 06/25/2009 1:26:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.troopathon.org/index.php -- June 25th -- the Troopathon)
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Thanks wildbill. Is this the elephant from somewhere off SE Asia (one of the big islands)? Shoot, I just remembered seeing that while (ahem) surfing at work.

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45 posted on 06/25/2009 1:28:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.troopathon.org/index.php -- June 25th -- the Troopathon)
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Well, I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, Doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won out over it.
46 posted on 06/25/2009 1:58:42 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: mysterio

Was it pink?


47 posted on 06/25/2009 1:59:09 PM PDT by BJClinton (One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: JoeProBono

Now that is a cute baby.


48 posted on 06/25/2009 2:08:21 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: colorado tanker
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -- Philip K. Dick
Of course, there's a punchline to that famous quote by the only sci-fi writer IMHO worth reading.
49 posted on 06/25/2009 2:21:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.troopathon.org/index.php -- June 25th -- the Troopathon)
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Will it fit in my crock-pot?

W-w-w-why do you ask?

50 posted on 06/25/2009 2:39:19 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 157 of our national holiday from reality.)
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