Posted on 06/28/2009 5:17:15 AM PDT by Fennie
Saddened by the wickedness of man, God directs the righteous Noah to build an ark for his family and two of each species of animal.
Together, they ride the ark through 40 days and 40 nights of torrential rains that God unleashes upon the Earth. And when the waters subside, Noah and the animals return to land.
"That seems almost like a fairy story," said archaeologist Randall Price, who is director of Liberty University's new Center for Judaic Studies. "But we believe it was an actual event."
This summer Price, 57, plans to continue on a journey to prove just that as he joins an expedition to Mount Ararat. His team believes that it is there, in Eastern Turkey, where Noah's Ark remains preserved underneath layers of rubble and ice.
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Um, Dude? ‘Noah’s Ark’ is in Wisconsin! ;)
http://www.noahsarkwaterpark.com/attractions/photo-gallery/
No, it’s in venison.
Noah's wife?
Now the problem is....Telling someone to build an ark and get two of each kind because it's gonna rain....is STUPID.
All you have to do is look at the little Ark kits we buy for our kids to see how stupid the story is.
I'd say there was a storm once "somewhere"...perhaps a tsunami....and "Noah's Ark" was the best way they could describe the event. I don't even think it happened in Turkey!!
I don't want to get into a debate with you on Biblical events but I am curious as to what you mean by this. Please expound.
There’s several things about this story -
He’s been there 30 times and has nothing but some photos to show for it? Hundreds and prehaps thousands have been up there over the last 2 thousand years and have brought back nothing.
It has been proven time and time again that there was a huge flood so that isn’t a fairy tale.
$60k shouldn’t be that much for these guys. One would think that they would have had things ready to go at a moment’s notice for years already. There’s the weather excuse, the mean ol’ government excuse, then they have the military causing land slides excuse and now they need some funding to start to get things together excuse. Enough already! It’s been exposed to the weather enough over the centuries and crushed with lands slides so rounding up a few dozen villagers to just haul the thing down this summer isn’t going to hurt it much more.
And I’m going to dig a hole to China in my back yard. The day workers are half way there!
Actual event.....There have been intense floods all over the world at some point....Just look at the tsunami which we all saw.....How would you explain the intensity back then???? Voila...Noah!!
Wrong. Whoever wrote this lede over at the AP (Always Pimping), failed due diligence. God did not tell Noah to gather only two of each. He told Noah to take 14 of many animal types. See Genesis 7:2-3.
"Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that [are] not clean by two, the male and his female. Of fowls also of the air by sevens, the male and the female; to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth."
.......Wouldn’t Turkey be searching for the Ark if they thought it was there ?......
Hunting the Ark is a profit center for Turkey. Why spend money to look for something not there when foreigners will spend good hard $$$ doing it for you.
3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: (Ge.1)
3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:(Ge.7:11-24)
3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.(II Pe. 3:12-14 and Re. 20 and 21)
3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Virginia man searching for Turkey in Noah’s Ark???
Sounds like fun. Looks like the Average Joe can do this for less than $1,000 Euros, not including plane fare or tips for the guides:
http://araratsummit.blogspot.com/
MT.ARARAT 7 DAYS TOUR PROGRAM
Day 1 : Day 1: We meet from Van Airpot,on the way On the way we will stop by the Muradiye waterfalls and enjoy the view with Turkish tea. We will transfer to our hotel in Dogubeyazit.
Day 2 : We transfer to Eli village after breakfast, load the equipment on the mules, climb to 3200 m campsite. Total walk 2-3 hrs. Camp.
Day 3 : Hike up to 4100 m and return to the greencamp (acclimatisation)
Day 4 : Ascending again to 4100 m with a short overnight stay in the tent.
Day 5 : Ararat summit, afterwards return to the green camp.
Day 6 : Transfer back to Dogubeyazit, overnight stay in the hotel.
Day 7 : Transfer to Van Airport,then be and of your tour.
TREKKING TOUR PRRICE:
INCLUDEED IN THE PRICE :
All transportation in Van -Dogubeyazit & on Mt.Ararat,Accommadations(double room or Single room in three stars Hotel ) All meals,soft drinks & hot drinks,With Cooking service. Professional guide, many years of experience in taking people to the summit.
NOT INCLUDED PRICE :
Tips,Beverages,Climbing permit (50 Euro) Alcoholic beverages and Personal climbing equipment.
Don't answer. Be the "open-minded" people you claim to be and think!
About half of this book gives detailed accounts by thirteen different explorers who have climbed Mt. Ararat and one discovers how difficult such expeditions are to arrange, how treacherous Ararat is to scale, and how inaccessible the Ark is, buried under ice most of the time (except during long, hot periods). Also, severe earthquakes on the mountain appear to have broken whatever is up there into 3-4 separate pieces, which now slowly slide down in glacier ice, into the deep, northern Ahora Gorge.
It is the day of our New Beginnings. This year it began on April 11 at sundown. YHvH is coming again to bring His Judgement, soon. It is now time to call on His NAME: Yah'shua. The same seventeenth of Nisan is when Yah'shua rose from the dead.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
My as teacher says it never happened
ok
I thought it was in Job, my favorite New Testement book. (snicker)
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Yep -- we get some really thoughtful commenters here...
Luke 16:
27”And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, that you send him to my father’s house—
28for I have five brothers—in order that he may (G)warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’
29”But Abraham said, ‘They have (H)Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’
30”But he said, ‘No, (I)father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent!’
31”But he said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.’”
Wait. Didn’t I see this on Leonard Nimoy’s “In Search Of” in the early 1980s?
If Noah’s Ark is found on this mountain I believe the Koran is proven wrong. And if the Ark of the Covenant is discovered in Ethiopia to be real then the Koran is proven wrong as well. The Holy War continues and the Christians WILL triumph. God bless us all.
Are those Noah’s kids? Which one’s Ham?
Still, perhaps God has a hand in all of this. At the University of Erzurum (located 150 miles W of Mt. Ararat), an Islamic scholar told Robin Simmons, one ark explorer: "The Ark is a bomb in the world!" He explained that there is widespread belief in the region that the revelation of the Ark will be a sign that Mohammed is returning to purge the earth of all the heretics in a holy war. Then all true believers will go to heaven in a restored Golden Ark. Perhaps we should all be glad that the Ark has not been more "discovered" than it has. The truth is out there for those who earnestly want to search for it and find it. So it often seems to be God's way.
What makes any one with any knowledge of wood at all think there is any trace of the ark left after all this time? Let's say some bits and pieces are still there, a few pegs(no nails)and some wood bits, maybe petrified, how will they determine these scraps belonged to the Ark?
My scenario for the Ark? 150 years after the flood some poor farmer was searching for firewood and came upon the remains of a boat where one shouldn't be, not being familiar with the story of the flood, he cut it up and took it home and used it to cook meals and heat his hut. Lasted him for 3 or 4 winters.
Hey, my version of what happened to it is just as plausible as thinking anything is left of it after all this time!
In the Bible, the Jews were lost in the desert for 40 years.
They kept walking in a circle around the same mountain, failing to notice it was always the ‘same’ mountain.
The mountain was not the point of the story.
In the Bible, Noah built the Ark to protect his family and the animals from drowning.
The point of the story was not the Ark itself. Why do we search so intensely for the ARK, yet ignore the point of the story?
Because the Bible isn't just Aesop's Fables.
A lib/dem politician said that during a presidential run (I forget which). I think Harrius was mocking that pol.
I agree with you to a point. Sometimes archaeological proofs get people’s attention long enough for them to hear the message.
Turkey is mostly Islamic and would not be agreeable to anything that would be remotely be considered ‘Jewish’ or ‘Christian’.
They would probably consider the Arks discovery more supportive of Jewish/Christtian theology than Islamic theology and therefore a threat to their culture.
During the cold war, Russia was very concerned about people being on those mountains because they (Russia) had a major military site located on the other side.
There was pressure from Russia on Turkey to keep people off the mountain.
In Fact, during an overflight by U.S. intelligence, photos were taken of something large near the top of the mountain.
There is another site on ‘the mountains of Ararat’ being endorsed by Anchorstone.org as being the site of the Arks landing. That site is accompanied by large ‘Drogue’ or anchor stones with some of the stones being marked with crosses.
There is a history in the second area of that being known as the location where Noah and his family settled after the Ark landed.
That is the only way I can explain myself. I hope that the Shroud of Turin is real just because it would please me to know that something like that was kept since Jesus Christ was wrapped in it. I do not in any way NEED for the Shroud to be real to believe in Jesus and His Crucifixion.
And I agree with you to a point. To find the remains of biblical archeological sites lends credibility for those who doubt. To find a chalice or piece of wood the origin of which will always be arguable is of limited value. The Shroud of Turin is an example.
God spoke through a burning bush and a donkey. I tend not to limit how he gets someones attention. If it only changes one mind, the angels will rejoice with the Shepherd.
Almost as stupid as Lewis and Clark searching for the pacific. Animals did not have the fear of man before the flood. I think there is an answer to your doubts. Why did you buy an Ark kit for your kids if it was STUPID?
Like the Turin thing....no "proof" can ever be found....only construed...which makes some things an ongoing mystery.........forever...
The point of the story is??? A big freak’n tsunami....someplace...at some point in time....
Of course not.
But you have read and understand the story in the Bible, and what God's message to man was.
Many people have a very shallow knowledge of the Bible, and their focus is on the objects, and not the ideas.
For instance (I believe someone already mentioned this), a poll of Americans would probably show that most believe Noah took in 2 of each animal, of every kind.
>> Why do we ..... ignore the point of the story?
Some people get the point, others don’t. Most are drowned in a sea of hatred right now. There’s no saving them. Those of us who adhere to the Messiah’s two commandments are sheltered safely in his ark sailing for his safe harbor. The rest are bobbing aimlessly in a kind of limbo.
Misreading the headline I had a flash of a Virginia man setting off in the new Mitsubishi electric mini-car to search for Noah’s Ark.
The Noah's Ark story in Islam is the exact same story as in our Old Testament.
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