Skip to comments.Cat's Beating Death Triggers Protest (man killed cat after it scratched him)
Posted on 07/01/2009 7:11:49 PM PDT by Chet 99
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> If a cat attacked me and my dog as we were just walking by, Id probably assume it had rabies...
Cats sometimes do that here in New Zealand, where there is no rabies at all. Some cats are just loco.
There’s a cat in our street like that. We call it the “Ghost Cat” — a huge fluffy white persian with no fear of dogs. Not even my huge German Shepherd who isn’t afraid of any living thing but she *is* afraid of the Ghost Cat.
We can be walking along at night, minding our own business, and the Ghost Cat will jump out at us, hiss, with all its fur standing on end, crazy glowing green eyes — just a few feet in front of us. Gives my German Shepherd one Hell of a fright. Me too, because it is always unexpected.
Ever seen a big German Shepherd evacuate herself completely in less than one second? I have — when my German Shepherd was out in the backyard “to do her business” at the same time the Ghost Cat decided to stage its latest attack. It was a very messy affair!
No question of rabies with this crazy animal: it’s just a big fluffy white cat with no Fear and a Death Wish. I wouldn’t dream of harming it.
No, I sure wouldn’t. And if you figure out a way to stop any animal from attacking while you ring up your friendly neighborhood ACO and wait for him to drop everything and come save you, let me know.
As far as returning days later to beat the cat to death, maybe that was the second time it attacked? This story is long on emotion and short on details...
It may not be rabies, but how can you be sure, especially when it’s an animal that you see living outside, day after day? If it does bite you, and you don’t catch it, you are the one who gets the rabies shots.
I punted a chihuahua who charged me and my dog a few months ago, kicked him halfway across the street. I don’t regret it, any more than I would regret beating a larger dog who attacked me. People need to control their animals.
If the kitty was wreaking havoc with anyone else, we sure haven’t heard about it. Perhaps that cat and that man had a mutual hatred for one another. He was a fool to come back, he knew that was asking for trouble.
A chihuahua? Charged your dog? What was your dog, another chihuahua? You low down dirty dog kicker.
you would be surprised
there are freepers who claim they will personally murder anyone who kills a pet
what a screwed up culture
elevate animals over babies
My dog is a pitbull.
An extremely well-behaved, unthreatening, neutered, vaccinated, worm-free, flea-free pitbull. I pour too much time and money into him to allow him to be bitten by a dog that might have any number of diseases because his owners don’t care enough to bring him inside from the rain, let alone to a vet.
A full-on Feral cat might be a different story: for one thing it would be much bigger than 7 lbs, and for another thing it would be a matter of self-defense. But feral cats the real ones are in short supply in Worcester, Massachusetts: there are none. In this case were talking about a 7 lb domestic kitty who had just given birth to kittens. Somebodys pet.
Pretty shameful act, even if you dont like cats.
I don't particularly care for cats, and I would never do that to a cat, but I can understand kicking it to try to repel it. I'm not sure of the weight range for "full-on" feral cats. Those I have seen are not larger than domestic cats, and are sometimes smaller/leaner. I'm also not sure why this guy would be expected to calculate the odds that this is a feral/domestic cat while he is being attacked without provocation, or how he is expected to know the cat has recently had kittens.
All that being said, I think it is reasonable that he should be able to defend himself. Should he have killed the animal? No. I really doubt anything beyond driving the cat away was necessary, and I think he should be investigated and possibly prosecuted.
He was a fool for using the public sidewalk?
Let your pit bull take care of himself then. He’s not scared of no chihuahua is he? Or of recently pregnant 7 pound house cats?
No, we’re supposed to take care of our dogs. Letting the dog (especially a pit bull) get a taste of blood and acting vicious might engrain it as a habit. Not a good idea.
I don’t know if he’s scared of them, I have never put him in a situation where he’d have to defend himself from one.
Have you ever seen someone try to fight off a bee, screaming and flailing and backing into things to avoid getting stung?
7 pounds may not seem like that much until it’s headed straight for your crotch, with five of it’s six ends pointy and sharp.
Mr. Foley's defense lawyer has already called on their first character witness, pictured below, who claims that Mr. Foley is an upstanding and trustworthy individual.
Bingo! Once, growing up, a relative was chased and attacked by three dogs - either two Shepherds and a Doberman, or two Dobermans and a Shepherd. (I can't remember which.) When he tried in vain to kick them away, the owner got mad and yelled at him, "Don't kick my dogs!" :-0
People need to control their animals. If the animal is hurt attacking someone, it's the owner's fault. One late night, I had to climb onto the hood of a car to get away from a Doberman who came after me. I soon realized the owner had sent him after me, just for kicks. An officer later told me I would've had every right to shoot that dog. I wonder what animal lovers would say in that case. Since the dog didn't bite, they'd probably criticize the person defending herself.
Having worked for a vet a few years, the suggestion I gave was the appropriate answer (call city, have them impound the animal, and make sure it was not diseased). You read it, you seemed to agree with it, then you jump right in to pit bull crazy again.
Lets make this as clear as possible. I don't agree with your proposal that 10 years is the just punishment for the offense. I know you love your dogs, but 10 years is crazy. I don't care if he beat it the middle of the town square.
Other details I would like to know. Did he kill the cat on their yawn or his own. Did he kill the cat knowing the kids were looking or did it make such a racket they came out and observed it. You make it sound like he just rang their doorbell and invited a film crew before killing it.
In real life, I have had a big dog attack my wife and kids while she walked on a city backroad (one child under one in the stroller). Bit her pants leg but did not bring blood. What did I do, I knocked on their door, told them that if it came out in the street again I would beat it's skull in. They moved. I really could care less it that offends you or not.
Having a dog, especially a big one, run at you is terrifying! I’m glad you were okay.
I never appreciated how ridiculous it is to yell “He doesn’t bite!” at someone your dog is charging until it happened to me.
True, but that’s the risk you take if you let your dog run loose.
My dog ran at some leashed dogs, right after we ‘adopted’ him. *I* knew he just wanted to play, but how can you expect anyone else to know that? He got smacked across the face with a wooden cane by the dog’s owner, and I agreed with it.
I apologized profusely and it still embarasses me that I let it happen...Still, Swiper was lucky that it was only a wooden cane. I carry a steel maglite on our walks.
But why was the cat wandering around outside? Where was it's owner? For the safety and security of both my pets and the general public, I don't let my pets run around loose.
Thanks, I was fine. That happened many years ago; I wasn’t bitten, and it gave me a story to tell. :-)
For the record, I wouldn’t have been afraid if the animal wasn’t in attack mode.
When I first caught sight of the Doberman coming toward me, I saw no one walking with it. I casually started into the street to give it some room. ;-) But, then it came charging after me, growling and barking. I scraped the hood of that car with my heels backing up onto it. ;-) The dog was right at my feet, going bananas, and I thought it would kill me.
Then I heard a whistle. It was the owner calling his dog back. The dog immediately stopped and ran to the owner. As the man walked by, I said, “I didn’t even see you.” But, he didn’t apologize or say anything at all. He just glared at me as he walked by.
So, he must’ve sent the dog after me. ;-) Maybe he wanted to see how well his dog would obey his orders. There are good owners and bad ones. This guy was a bad owner. I should add it was a crime-ridden, drug-riddled area.
Let the penalty fit the crime. Just need a bigger stick. I’d be upset that a cat scratched me but I wouldn’t beat it, much less kill it.
The only way I’d hurt the cat is if the thing attacked and wouldn’t stop. I remember that video of a cat going after a deputy’s crotch/inner thigh area and would not quit.
OMG...how low can a person go.....this is sick. What a frickin monster.....boil this loser in oil.
This one really gets my blood boiling....whatasickbastid.
Oh brother....the cats are mean because they chase the dog?? You need to get out more.
Most likley it was kicked out or ran away. My cat will run out the door if I am not diligently watching her as I leave or come in. Everything is not black or white.
A cat with kittens will do ANYTHING to protect them....even walk through fire to save them.
I've seen murderers receive lighter sentences...
It was a horrible thing to do, but not 5 years in prison horrible.
I’m with you on this one. There are some real knuckle-draggers that sometimes appear on these threads.
I would suggest you don’t waste your time with the cat lady. You will come out looking and smelling like you wrestled with a pig.
Just some friendly advice if you didn’t already know.
And again....a cat will do anything...even attack to protect her kitts.
These cats didn’t have kittens.
....as you should.... :)
Ah, I see... Cat lover, eh? LOL.
Unless the cat is pregnant, has babies, has rabies or is cornered—fearing for it’s life.....the cat naturally flees...not attacks.
LOL. You didn’t meet these three cats. ;-)
The puppy was so cute and friendly. It was white with black spots. They named it Spot, of course. The cats were named Satan, Lucifer, and Beelzebub. (I’m not kidding.) Because even the owners could see these cats were mean.
Later, they had two more cats who were sweet and cuddly. But not the other three...
Now Fawn, we never agreed that these discussions involved FACT & LOGIC. You may have, but it wasn’t reciprocal. ;-)
And yes, there were a few times I smelled and looked like it and learned my lesson(s).
Try to keep things in perspective.
I hope you have a Happy 4th of July.
To the nth degree.
Have a Happy 4th!
“What are we talking about here, a toy chihuahua?”
Toy Chihuahuas charge; they do not retreat.
(That is the case in my home, where a 3.5 pound little guy runs the show with three adult humans and two adult cats.)
“Anyone who would beat a cat to death over being scratched and/or it charging his dog, has something very very wrong with them.”
He seems to be a security guard; a want-to-be tough guy.
Happy 4th to you, too!
That would be very good for children to see.
What a sick man.
> Lets make this as clear as possible. I don’t agree with your proposal that 10 years is the just punishment for the offense. I know you love your dogs, but 10 years is crazy. I don’t care if he beat it the middle of the town square.
Ok, so what do you feel would be an appropriate sanction for beating somebody’s pet cat to death in front of children? What sentence wouldn’t be “crazy”?
> You make it sound like he just rang their doorbell and invited a film crew before killing it.
I don’t know any more about the circumstances than what you’ve gleaned from the story. But I don’t see too many shades of grey. Beating a pet cat to death is sick behavior. Doing it in front of kids (irrespective of how the kids got involved) is a serious aggravating factor. I don’t see many reasons to ameliorate a sentence of, say, ten years. Perhaps mental illness...
Yes, that is alot of time; and yes, it was “only a cat”. But any sick b@stard that could do that to a cat, in front of children, surely places little or no value on life. Society is therefore safer having that person behind bars, away from the rest of us. Tough punishment, sure: it’s very tough and I don’t care. He really ought to be strung up by the nuts and left to twist in the wind. Unfortunately we do not live in the Dark Ages, so ten years in the slammer is the worst we can do to them.
> What did I do, I knocked on their door, told them that if it came out in the street again I would beat it’s skull in. They moved. I really could care less it that offends you or not.
A roaming dog that bites is a serious public safety concern. It cannot be compared with a biting/scratching pet cat: it is a much bigger risk capable of doing much more serious damage. Off to the pound with it if possible, or kill it humanely if not: particularly if it is in the act of attacking someone. That doesn’t offend me at all. And I really couldn’t care less if it offends you either.
> That would be very good for children to see.
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Ahhhh... that’s much better!
Mmm...that’s irrelevant. The pet owner is ultimately responsible for their animals whether they were let out, kicked out or escaped.
It’s not irrelevant....yes, for every 4th generation feral cat-—it is ultimately the result of a irresponsible human. My point was not to blame the cats for running loose if they ran away or were born to a cat that ran away. It’s no reason to kill them.
There is a difference between PETS and animals raised for food.
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