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Chilling 911 Tapes in Florida Toddler's Python Death: 'The Baby's Dead!'
FOX ^ | July 2, 2009

Posted on 07/02/2009 8:04:26 AM PDT by Kaslin

A distraught caller trying to save the life of a 2-year-old Florida girl strangled by a pet python screams "The baby's dead!" in chilling 911 tapes released in the toddler's death.

Shaiunna Hare died early Wednesday morning after being attacked in her crib by the snake, which escaped from its aquarium, police said.

"The baby's dead!" a sobbing caller from the house screamed to a 911 dispatcher. "Our stupid snake got out in the middle of the night and strangled the baby."

Authorities did not identify the caller and removed the person's name from the recording.

"She got out of the cage last night and got into the baby's crib and strangled her to death," the caller says in the tape.

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TOPICS: Local News; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: childneglect; emergency911; florida; mommysboyfriend; pets; python
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To: Kaslin

God bless this child... This is unimaginable.

121 posted on 07/02/2009 3:45:36 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: NellieMae
Makes you wonder why they didn’t hear the baby crying.

Pythons wrap themselves around the necks of their mammal victims and squeeze, asphyxiating them. Since the baby was sleeping, it probably only awoke once the python had wrapped, and could no longer draw a breath. God bless that child.

122 posted on 07/02/2009 4:13:00 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Shouldn't there be equal time for our Bill of Responsibilities?" -- Justice Clarence Thomas)
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To: GingisK
How anyone can keep a Python as a snake, especially with a small child around is beyond me...

Similar to the type that keeps pit bulls, I guess.

Similar to the type that keeps voting for communists.

123 posted on 07/02/2009 4:35:57 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: ClearCase_guy

I agree 100% that it needs to be considered. However, to act as if the story provided isn’t possible or likely is silly. It’s very possible.

124 posted on 07/02/2009 5:29:19 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Kaslin

Waiting for the idiots who defend keeping dangerous and deadly snakes as pets.

125 posted on 07/02/2009 5:57:38 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: politicalmerc

Haha, being afraid of an iguana, that’s funny. :)

Pet dogs kill more people than snakes do. Even Chihuahuas, Pomeranians and Dachshunds have all KILLED children.

If you’re gonna ban snakes from being kept as pets because of “omg think of the children”, ban dogs as well - ALL of them. They all can kill. No animal is 100% predictable. More people are mauled or killed by the FAMILY dog than loose/feral dogs. There’s always the chance that little Timmy may step on Rover’s tail and he bites him in the face, or worse.

Millions of people have pet dogs and take that risk. Does that make them bad parents?

I love dogs, but I even think they are more inherently dangerous than some of the larger snakes kept as pets, and a hundred times more dangerous than a corn snake or ball python (I do not think there have been any cases of anyone being killed by these two species), which are the most common pet snakes.

Snakes are not territorial like dogs. A snake will not hop a fence or chase you down and maul you because it thinks you’re an intruder. They are cold-blooded and built to conserve energy, and spend most of their time hiding or basking.

Snakes only kill when they are hungry. Dogs attack and kill for fun and to chase away intruders. In fact, it is not uncommon for pet snakes to be injured or killed by their prey if the snake is not hungry and the prey animal is left in the tank with them.

I’m sure many people here wouldn’t want all breeds of dogs banned because they *personally* like certain dogs, yet want all snakes and other exotic pets (that are less dangerous than dogs) banned because they *personally* do not like them. Not really any different than crazy liberals wanting to ban guns, Bibles or other things just because they don’t like them.

To me, it would be better to require anyone with a large constrictor to obtain a permit, get their pet chipped, and have someone inspect the cage it will be kept in. The snake in the article was kept incorrectly. Keeping dogs incorrectly (chained up and no socialization) leads to tragic accidents as well.

Meh, people are so hypocritical.

126 posted on 07/02/2009 6:59:33 PM PDT by Waffles
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Guess I’d be that “idiot”, huh?

Do you think dogs should be banned as pets too? Family dogs kill more children than snakes. Dog behavioralists will tell you to never leave even the most well-behaved family dog around a child, as that potential for them to maul/kill them for whatever reason is always there.

If you care so much for the children and the public’s safety, they should be banned too.

No one *needs* a dog either unless they are service or working dogs. And if someone wants a companion, perhaps they should make human friends instead.

Should such unnecessary and dangerous beasties be around our children? Think of the children. :(

I, personally, do not need the government to protect me from “dangerous” pets, just like I do not need them to protect me by taking away people’s guns.

127 posted on 07/02/2009 7:08:35 PM PDT by Waffles
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To: Waffles
Well thank you for the small novel about how dogs kill more owners than snakes. First, I'm pretty sure you are wrong if you consider there are far more dogs as pets than snakes. But, even if you are right there is a significant difference: Dogs are domesticated and snakes are always wild.

That having been said, I'm not sure where you got the idea that I think snakes should be banned. I couldn't care less if people own them as long as they are responsible for their actions. I would agree, since a snake is wild they should require a permit and maybe an inspection of the cage, but definitely if the snake hurts or kills someone the owner is responsible.

Other than that, just because I don't like snakes or other reptiles, it doesn't mean I think they should be banned.

I would support a negligent manslaughter charge against this hapless couple.

128 posted on 07/02/2009 7:25:16 PM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Vermont Lt

ROTFL ... me either (twitch)...

129 posted on 07/02/2009 7:42:03 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Waffles
How many kids do you think should die for this vice? No one needs an exotic snake that can kill humans in their house with children. Only an idiot does this, along with the sadistic white trash losers whose mangy Pitbulls kill toddlers every month needlessly. A good Mossberg or Remington would do the job. No child should die because some idiot gets their jollies from feeding snakes bunnies. Good grief.
130 posted on 07/02/2009 7:48:35 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Kaslin

Since pythons are becoming such a widespread nuisance in Florida, I say it’s time for them to become fashion accesories: shoes, belts and purses.

131 posted on 07/02/2009 7:50:21 PM PDT by JoanVarga (Contain your freakness, folks)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Sounds believable to me, I knew a guy with a python and it was always getting out and hiding in the house. He wasn’t married though. The damn thing creeped me out and I would not go over there after the first visit. I worked with the guy for a long time and he was always telling about his snake getting out.

132 posted on 07/02/2009 8:05:59 PM PDT by calex59
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

No one needs any dog, unless its a specially trained service dog, in their house with children either.

No child should to die because some creep gets their jollies by feeding their dog cute ground up cows, lambs, pigs and chicken in kibble form, or that barbaric raw diet I’ve been hearing about!

How many kids do you think should die for this vice?

133 posted on 07/02/2009 8:07:28 PM PDT by Waffles
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To: politicalmerc

Sorry about the nerd-rage there.

I guess the topic just bugs me cause I know lots of people that own things that other people want banned, such as guns, reptiles, and large dogs, etc. and I hate these stories that make all owners of such things seem like stupid and irresponsible people. Sucks how a few bad apples can ruin the bunch.

The negligent manslaughter charge sounds good.

134 posted on 07/02/2009 8:12:14 PM PDT by Waffles
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To: Waffles

I think owning something dangerous makes you highly responsible for any unintended outcome. Anyone that believes that a constricting snake is not dangerous has failed the first test of owning one. Thanks for your response.

135 posted on 07/02/2009 8:20:17 PM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: Waffles
Since there is no need to own a python, no further argument on this. If you ask why a 32-yr-old man is playing with a python and think about it long enough...perhaps... It's up to the people of Florida to decide. A lot of the snake thing has to do with such types enjoying seeing it eat rabbits which is definitely in the abnormal range of behavior and obsessions. Sadism. Not sure what the dogs vs. snakes debate is about. The case of the chimp that ate the woman in Connecticut, at least her face, is another like this. Primate experts don't recommend keeping chimps as pets either.

Maybe they should have a basic IQ test for prospective owners. If they have butt tattoos they could require carrying extra insurance and taking a training course which covers the dangers to small children. Here's the thing though - if they allow your toothless multi-tattooed neighbors to own vicious attack breeds or strange deadly, smelly critters shipped in from Africa and South America by circus people, they better let you own firearms.

136 posted on 07/02/2009 8:26:13 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: CaptainK
My point is it doesn't surprise me when these things happen in the boyfriend's rather than the parent’ house.

I think that's irrelavent to who actually owned the house isn't it...I'm sure he'd have moved the snake in with him at her place as it didn't seem to make any difference to her that the baby was in the same house anyway. If it did she would have insisted that he get rid of it or not moved in with him in the first place. I'm sure he assured her that it was safe and he had this 'big rock' to put on top of it's 'cage' to keep the snake inside.......I actually had neighbors that used that argument in the past when asked about how safe it was to have an 18ft snake in the same house as little kids.
137 posted on 07/02/2009 9:49:42 PM PDT by FlashBack ('0'bama: "Katrina on a Global Level")
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

There is no need to own a dog either, unless it is a service or working dog.

I’m curious though. Since you say snakes are unnecessary and potentially dangerous and therefore shouldn’t be pets, do you agree that only those who need service or working dogs should be allowed to own them? Any dog behaviorist will tell you that you should never leave any breed of dog unattended with a child, for the possibility of it mauling and/or killing the child is always there. There is no way to know whether your dog will or will not bite someone eventually. The risk is always there. Should even one child have to die by the family Golden Retriever or German Shepherd, especially when it wasn’t necessary for the family to have a dog in the first place?

Should one only be able to own a dog if there are no children in the home?

Also, to say all snake owners like watching rabbits die is no different when PETA members say all hunters are sadistic stupid oafs that love watching deer and other critters die. I’m sure some snake owners and hunters enjoy seeing animals in pain, but not all. FYI, my friends feed their meat-eating reptiles humanely killed and frozen rodents. They are killed in their sleep, much more pleasant than how the animals used in dog and cat food die.

Vicious attack breeds? Sure, if you think Golden Retrievers, German Shepherds, Huskies and Labradors are attack breeds. But I guess you would, considering all of those breeds have attacked and killed people.

Deadly critters? Considering ball pythons, cornsnakes, blue-tongued skinks and crested geckos have killed 0 people, no, I don’t consider them deadly.

They’re not my neighbors either, but my neighbor does own an aggressive black lab. Clearly this breed should be banned for public safety.

138 posted on 07/03/2009 3:03:11 AM PDT by Waffles
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To: Mr. Silverback

The most DANGEROUS place for a child is in a home with Mom’s BOYFRIENDS.

139 posted on 07/03/2009 4:41:15 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

Dang straight.

140 posted on 07/03/2009 6:51:50 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're definitely in the Rise of the Empire era, but is Obama Valorum or Palpatine?)
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