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Mozilla Firefox 3.5 Users Clamoring For Bug Fix
crn.com ^ | July 2, 2009 | Steven Burke

Posted on 07/02/2009 8:45:09 AM PDT by smokingfrog

"It's seriously bugged is what it is," posted Jeremy in a July 1 post on hothardware.com." "My Firefox load time went from a heartbeat or two to 50-60 seconds. First time, second time, didn't matter if it was pre-fetched or not. Numerous other people having the same issue as well judging from their forum.

"I've seen the same issue on both on my Vista x64 machine and my XP machine at work," added Jeremy."I downgraded both and am back to happy browsing. Hopefully Firefox 3.5.1 hits soon and resolves whatever the issue is."

TGDaily.com is reporting that Mozilla Firefox 3.5.1 is due in mid- to late July and will include fixes for at least three of 55 published bugs for the new Web browser. TGDaily.com reports that the browser bug fixes in store for Mozilla Firefox 3.5 include crashes caused by the TraceMonkey JavaScript engine.

Mozilla has not yet decided whether Firefox 3.5.1 will be labeled as a major update or if that phrase will be reserved for version 3.5.2, according to TGDaily.com.

Mozilla is relying on the community development model to confirm and fix the bugs with its Firefox 3.5 browser.

At the Mozilla community quality assurance Web site, quality.mozilla.org, a banner headline proclaims: "Firefox BugDay - Catch Missed Blocker, Critical, and Major 3.5 bugs!"

"We will try to narrow down any important bugs that were missed, or were regressions from Firefox 3.5, and get them into a point update quickly," reads a call to action on quality.mozilla.org. "Triage, what is it? Well, simply put, Triage is taking a bug, making sure it has enough information to reproduce, and ensuring that it is in the proper component. After that you should try to reproduce the issue. Problems that are easily reproducible (such as a crash that occurs every time you visit a certain Web site), are more valuable than those that are impossible to reproduce. If you can reproduce a bug, please add a comment to the bug or recommend in #bugday that the bug be confirmed."

Posted by Steven Burke at 11:00 AM


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: browser; firefox; internet; mozilla
Might be a good idea to wait before installing version 3.5?
1 posted on 07/02/2009 8:45:10 AM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

I think they’re missing the point of why people liked FF in the first place. Less bloat, less security issues, shorter load times.


2 posted on 07/02/2009 8:47:39 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: smokingfrog

I have been using Firefox 3.5 Beta 4 for months and am very happy with it. Using it on an XP Pro box.

Much more stable than 3.0.

At this point some of the plug-ins are not yet compatible, but I love Firefox 3.5 beta.

TF


3 posted on 07/02/2009 8:47:44 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: smokingfrog

Hmmm. I still have 3.0 but 3.5 is advertised as being “Twice as fast as Firefox 3.” Just to be safe, I think I will wait until the next bug fix to upgrade.


4 posted on 07/02/2009 8:49:41 AM PDT by Blennos (High Point, NC)
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To: smokingfrog

>>Might be a good idea to wait before installing version 3.5? <<

I am.

But Firefox has been slowing down every release since 2. How they got into the MS bloatware pattern is anyone’s guess.


5 posted on 07/02/2009 8:50:23 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: smokingfrog

So that’s why it is slow. I thought it was because of Itunes or something.


6 posted on 07/02/2009 8:50:59 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Blennos

“Hmmm. I still have 3.0 but 3.5 is advertised as being “Twice as fast as Firefox 3.” Just to be safe, I think I will wait until the next bug fix to upgrade.”

Agreed. FF3 has been the slowest iteration of FF I’ve experienced. I’ve been hoping 3.5 speeds things up. But I’ll wait until the bugs are fixed.


7 posted on 07/02/2009 8:51:23 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Slapshot68

Try IE8 running under Win 7 - my experience show it to be faster than FF


8 posted on 07/02/2009 8:53:37 AM PDT by PaForBush
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To: PaForBush

“Try IE8 running under Win 7 - my experience show it to be faster than FF”

I’ve read good things about Win 7. Hope to experience it soon.


9 posted on 07/02/2009 8:54:16 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: smokingfrog

I updated to 3.5 yesterday and have noticed no slowdown. All of my plugins but one are fine, and the one that wasn’t fine didn’t cause a problem because FireFox warned me when I was updating that it would have to disable one of my plugins.

WinXP Pro


10 posted on 07/02/2009 8:55:15 AM PDT by MarineBrat (The New York Times is a Communist Kamikaze.)
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To: PaForBush

I’ve also been running latest version of Safari. First impressions are pretty good.


11 posted on 07/02/2009 8:56:23 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Slapshot68

I’m running 3.5 now and its been noticeably faster than 3.0. I haven’t experienced this slowdown described.

Yes addons are behind the compatibility curve, but tbey always are. I use “nightly tester tool” to get them working.


12 posted on 07/02/2009 8:57:46 AM PDT by catbertz
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To: smokingfrog

I am using 3.0.11 and it loads slowly, sometimes refuses to load, so I use Safari. What should I upgrade to and what do they mean by the Java remark. I am such a computer novice it is embarrassing.Vaudine


13 posted on 07/02/2009 8:59:25 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: smokingfrog

I upgraded and downgraded within an hour yesterday. All sorts of stalls and freezing, even in safe mode.


14 posted on 07/02/2009 8:59:39 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: smokingfrog

I installed the new 3.5 this week and it just hammered my speed. It is a hog of a program that injects unneeded crap on the basis that it is smarter and can think of what you need better than you can.


15 posted on 07/02/2009 9:00:58 AM PDT by Concho ( No Birth Certificate-No Census!)
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To: freedumb2003
But Firefox has been slowing down every release since 2. How they got into the MS bloatware pattern is anyone’s guess.

I've wondered if Microsoft has moles working on the open source.

16 posted on 07/02/2009 9:01:03 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: catbertz

I upgraded to 3.5 just now so we’ll see how it goes :)


17 posted on 07/02/2009 9:04:54 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: smokingfrog; All

I like foxit it is much faster then Adobe’s pdf reader.


18 posted on 07/02/2009 9:08:40 AM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: smokingfrog

Use Opera Unite


19 posted on 07/02/2009 9:10:07 AM PDT by dila813
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To: smokingfrog

There’s one bug that I’ve seen with FF for quite a number of versions, including the most recent. It is the copy bug, wherein text sometimes is not able to be copied. Highlighted text will not be offered a copy function in the context menu. It just does not exist. Using the copy shortcut keys also does not work.


20 posted on 07/02/2009 9:11:03 AM PDT by kenth
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To: Texas Fossil

I miss my “get mail” button: seems like such a simple thing to have dropped..

I have noticed it is slower.

Maybe its the inevitable result of designing and refining by committee.


21 posted on 07/02/2009 9:11:21 AM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09!)
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To: catbertz

What is the nightly tester tool?


22 posted on 07/02/2009 9:22:18 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: smokingfrog; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

23 posted on 07/02/2009 9:23:40 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: vaudine
Do I have Java?

Certain websites may not display correctly if you don't have Java. Updates are fairly frequent because vulnerabilities are found. If you have Java installed, be sure to keep it updated.

24 posted on 07/02/2009 9:27:02 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: smokingfrog
Upgraded to 3.5 last night. Noticeable difference in speed (I like) but I haven't used it long enough for any bugs to turn up. IE8 is an improvement over 7 but is rather annoying after it's installed - "Hi, I'm IE8! I want to waste minutes of your time telling you how great I am! Say, did you want that old home page back? Are you sure?" Irritating.

Chrome rocks on older boxes. I just upgraded an Opera installation on one of them and even that one is markedly improved. Good times for browsers if you don't mind a few rocks in the road.

25 posted on 07/02/2009 9:30:58 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: smokingfrog

I have it on a Vista Home Pr. machine and have noticed nothing like this. In fact, it does seem faster.


26 posted on 07/02/2009 9:48:57 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: smokingfrog

Its an addon/extension that changes the version number range of other addons to make them compatible temporarily.

An addon will have a set range of FF versions that it officially works with. This info is a simple text entry in the addons files. You can manually go in and change the range to include new FF versions before its author does. This will make the addon work, though doesn’t account for any real changes the author might include. Its temp. so most useful for smaller updates to FF, say from 3.5 to 3.5.1.

Google for more info and get the tester tool at Mozilla site.


27 posted on 07/02/2009 9:52:32 AM PDT by catbertz
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To: catbertz

I should clarify that nightly tester tools does the temp change for you, as opposed to doing it manually.


28 posted on 07/02/2009 9:55:54 AM PDT by catbertz
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To: smokingfrog
Might be a good idea to wait before installing version 3.5?

It must be configuration dependent. I have 3.5 and it loads and gets the home page in about a second.

29 posted on 07/02/2009 10:28:49 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: smokingfrog
Do I have Java?

Are you logged in?

30 posted on 07/02/2009 10:31:14 AM PDT by Still Thinking (If ignorance is bliss, liberals must be ecstatic!)
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To: Adder

That was a function that I did not use, so I had not noticed.

Overall I love Firefox. Have used it since the first public release.

Had used Mozilla and other related browsers before that.

Spent too much time cleaning up window machines that used IE, swore off. I think the final blow was realizing that when I deleted the cookies and history that they were still there, just marked to not show.

For years I would remove them manually from dos prompt, but not since XP.


31 posted on 07/02/2009 10:38:59 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (The last time I looked, this is still Texas where I live.)
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To: smokingfrog

Every time I mention how long it takes Firefox to load, I have been told no one else has the problem. So now I now I am not crazy.


32 posted on 07/02/2009 10:44:16 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter(the Godfather of Terror) allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: ShadowAce

Works fine on my Mac at home.


33 posted on 07/02/2009 10:46:32 AM PDT by csvset
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To: w1andsodidwe

It’s slow as molasses for me.
Dell laptop with XP.


34 posted on 07/02/2009 10:47:14 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: smokingfrog

I have FireFox 3.5, IE 8, and the latest version of Safari on my XP box and, for me, FireFox 3.5 is the winner by far.

It is noticeably faster and far more stable than previous versions.


35 posted on 07/02/2009 10:50:05 AM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: smokingfrog

I updated to 3.5 two days ago, all of my plugins work, and this browser blisters!


36 posted on 07/02/2009 11:30:10 AM PDT by papasmurf (Save us from 0bama, I prayed. Then I heard, "the 2nd, I saved")
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To: papasmurf

I was just reading something about the private browsing feature. Have you used it? What do you think? Sounds like it needs some improvement.


37 posted on 07/02/2009 11:32:02 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: smokingfrog

I haven’t tried it. I usually just hit the “Clear Private Data” button when I think about it. LOL

.


38 posted on 07/02/2009 11:43:25 AM PDT by papasmurf (Save us from 0bama, I prayed. Then I heard, "the 2nd, I saved")
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To: Slapshot68

I’m using Windows 7. Looks pretty good. Free download and activation key which will keep it free until next March when it will start to shut down and then stop next June. But you can buy it now for $49.95. Takes a while to download and burn an ISO disk but it’s pretty straight forward. Go for it.


39 posted on 07/02/2009 12:30:09 PM PDT by RichardW
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Downloaded 3.5 yesterday, definitely faster for me. Only had to upgrade one plug-in and it works like a charm. I prefer 3.5 over 3.0. It hasn’t crashed yet :-)


40 posted on 07/02/2009 1:40:07 PM PDT by Jenny217
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To: nascarnation

Same here. I am using Win XP and it is sooo slow for me. Some pages such as Yahoo mail stall.

When I open the browser, I have to wait at least 60 seconds before I can click on anything.


41 posted on 07/11/2009 9:40:18 PM PDT by hsmomx3 (GO STEELERS!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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