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Tour de France 2009 [LIVE THREAD]

Posted on 07/04/2009 8:09:14 AM PDT by Mom MD

Today is day one! Armstrong riding. Astana is back! Predictions? Other comments? Does someone have the ping list from last year?


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KEYWORDS: armstrong; astana; contador; cycling; cyrildessel; letour; oopers; tdf; tour; tourdefrance
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1 posted on 07/04/2009 8:09:14 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

Translation?


2 posted on 07/04/2009 8:11:19 AM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: Mom MD

The walrus sings at midnight.


3 posted on 07/04/2009 8:11:31 AM PDT by BufordP ("I've abandoned free market principles to save the free market ..." --Jorge "the Oxy Moron" Bush)
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To: TommyDale

TDF = Tour de France. Big professional bike race. (the biggest)


4 posted on 07/04/2009 8:13:13 AM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: Mom MD

Best of luck to the Texan.


5 posted on 07/04/2009 8:16:06 AM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: Mom MD

ARmstrong already in the house with 20:12, 3rd place, :10 seconds back of another American, Levi something.


6 posted on 07/04/2009 8:17:22 AM PDT by Onerom99 (I)
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To: VicVega

I wish he hadn’t done this. I dont think he has it in him to place well, and I dont want to see him turn his great career into a laughingstock (ala Brett Favre) We’ll see how it turns out.


7 posted on 07/04/2009 8:17:35 AM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: Onerom99

Levi Leipheimer. One of the good guys.


8 posted on 07/04/2009 8:18:13 AM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: BufordP

John has a long mustache.


9 posted on 07/04/2009 8:19:06 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Mom MD
Getting ready for Stage 2, but....

10 posted on 07/04/2009 8:21:06 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Mom MD

Broke his collar bone as you know back in march. He may have some struggles in the mountains.

I don’t expect him to win, but probably will end up in the top 10 if the lack of training due to injury doesn’t hurt him and he drops out.

Love to see the Red White and Blue back up on the stage in Paris. That would really torch some arses there.


11 posted on 07/04/2009 8:23:27 AM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: SERKIT

See replies up thread. Biggest professional bicycle race in the world. Lance Armstrong attempting a comeback. Astana = best team in the world, banned from the race last year due to antics of some team members the year before (not the ones riding this year) Wide open race, looks exciting this year (if you are a fan of course, if not it is like watching paint dry!)


12 posted on 07/04/2009 8:23:45 AM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: SERKIT; BufordP
Two people have watched WAY TOO MUCH Hogans Heroes, OK make that three
13 posted on 07/04/2009 8:24:18 AM PDT by sticker
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To: VicVega

You got that right. I am also pulling for Contador. It was a shame he got aced out of the tour last year, and I think he will have something to say about it this year. I am expecting fireworks on the course!


14 posted on 07/04/2009 8:25:23 AM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: VicVega

I would love to see him do well enough to ruin the day for the French - we will see what happens. The collarbone injury is a painful one - my husband did that on is bike several years ago. Hopefully the plate they put in will speed healing.


15 posted on 07/04/2009 8:32:17 AM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: Mom MD
Biggest professional bicycle race in the world.

Wide open race, looks exciting this year (if you are a fan of course, if not it is like watching paint dry!)

OK, you understand.

16 posted on 07/04/2009 8:37:29 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Mom MD

Well, I’m gearing up for an SDR test on MABAS, but that wouldn’t make a good headline, either. Thanks for the clarification.


17 posted on 07/04/2009 8:39:05 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Mom MD

Haven’t watch the tour in a few years since Lance’s departure. Started watching because of Greg Lemond and I was getting into cycling. He could have won more than 3 if he didn’t have to support Bernard Hinault.


18 posted on 07/04/2009 8:41:24 AM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: Mom MD; nutmeg; whattajoke; Aeronaut; jern; concentric circles; Petronski; Voss; Drango; glorgau; ..
This year is going to have a lot of good stuff for cycling fans who thought the Tour was going to sleep after Lance retired. Not only is he back but there is an amazing field of talent that is going up against an arduous course that is designed with a planned spectacular mountain finish on Ventoux that will demand an attack and a strong team ride to protect the maillot jaune.

While the time trials don't award a special jersey, they do provide an opportunity to grab precious seconds and several Tours have been decided in the ITT.

The first battles within the tour are for the best sprinter' green jersey. The finishes - bunch sprints, may be some of the best we've seen in years and the talent goes deep for the guys with the fast twitch muscles. I have hopes and dreams for local boy Tyler Farrar who is riding his first tour with Garmin -Slipstream.

Let's all get ready to see the best talent in the world fight it our through hot, cold, wind, flat roads, high roads, steep climbs and bunches of sprinters hammering it out shoulder to shoulder at 40 mph. This year will not disappoint!

19 posted on 07/04/2009 12:43:08 PM PDT by Baynative (Private property and liberty are inseparable.)
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To: TommyDale

20 posted on 07/04/2009 12:45:59 PM PDT by Baynative (Private property and liberty are inseparable.)
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To: Baynative

Inspector Clouseau?


21 posted on 07/04/2009 12:53:18 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: Baynative

Thank you for the ping!!

I probably am in the minority but I don’t like seeing Lance in the Tour again. His time has come and gone, and I say the same thing about egomaniacs that come out of retirement for any sport (yes, even Favre.)

So it probably goes without saying that I was pleased with Stage 1 result.

;)

Yay Phil & Paul, Bob; yay for Astana (let’s go CONTADOR), and let’s hear it for three weeks of High Definition French countryside footage. Yay!!


22 posted on 07/04/2009 12:57:38 PM PDT by lainie (The US congress is full to the brim of absolutely disgusting thieves who deserve humiliating ouster.)
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To: Baynative; All
By the way, in case you hadn't seen this:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=cycling&id=4303130

Vino "plans to return to his cycling career with Astana." I hope Bruyneel says "no, thanks." And I say this as someone who really liked Vino for years.

23 posted on 07/04/2009 1:09:25 PM PDT by lainie (The US congress is full to the brim of absolutely disgusting thieves who deserve humiliating ouster.)
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To: lainie

Go Garmin-slipstream


24 posted on 07/04/2009 1:21:23 PM PDT by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: lainie

Astana had 5 riders in the top 10-11 today. The team TT will be killer!


25 posted on 07/04/2009 2:36:45 PM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: Mom MD; Baynative

Thank you, Mom and Baynative!


26 posted on 07/04/2009 3:08:19 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy ("Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
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To: All

Starts in Monaco, and makes a jaunt into Espana? Intersting

When’s the last time the Tour went to either, or went into 3 different countries, ftm?


27 posted on 07/04/2009 3:24:41 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy ("Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
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To: lainie

He and Lance will form another team in 2010 if Vino comes back. No way will he get involved with him.


28 posted on 07/04/2009 3:27:36 PM PDT by RichardW
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To: Ready4Freddy; nutmeg
No need to than ---

We'll be getting together tomorrow for the first day on the road. This year's tour route has been designed to produce a thrilling race right from the start with tomorrow's 187 K road stage being anything but the traditionally griddle flat sprinter's course. It has several testy little climbs that anything but "rollers" and will bring the Polka Dot jersey into play right from day one.

...and speaking of thrills; how about the final mountain stage finishing on the TOP of Mt. Ventoux (site of the classic Armstrong attack on Marco Pantani in 2000), on the day before Paris?


This is good stuff!

29 posted on 07/04/2009 5:00:24 PM PDT by Baynative (Private property and liberty are inseparable.)
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To: Ready4Freddy
No need to than thanK
30 posted on 07/04/2009 5:02:37 PM PDT by Baynative (Private property and liberty are inseparable.)
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To: Ready4Freddy
This year's tour goes to six countries. Play the movie here: Summary of the race
31 posted on 07/04/2009 5:16:22 PM PDT by lainie (The US congress is full to the brim of absolutely disgusting thieves who deserve humiliating ouster.)
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To: lainie
I think I tended to agree with you when I first heard of Lance coming back. But, I realize how hard it is for someone who has dedicated their entire life to a goal to just walk away. Another thing I thought about is whether or not there might be some really big bucks on the line to have him in the squad and right there sharing the work instead of in the team car chatting on the wire.

When I was racing USCF I finally got the points to upgrade from CatIV to CatIII, but by then I realized I was getting older and performing poorly in the hills, so instead of moving up I moved back down to CatV where I could ride in the pack with our newer riders. It was the best time I ever had on a bike.

Anyway ... picture this, Lance, Levi and Contador work well to control a couple of mountain stages and Lance finds himself in the top 5 or 10 going to Ventoux on the day before Paris. It was on Ventoux where he attacked Pantani and then after proving his point and knowing that he had the tour sewn up, he sat up and gave Marco the stage. He got no thanks for it and Pantani was more embarrassed than grateful. He'll be thinking about that...

...if he's anywhere near the top of the G.C. the whole world will be tuning in even if they don't know a derailleur from a down tube.

32 posted on 07/04/2009 5:22:10 PM PDT by Baynative (Private property and liberty are inseparable.)
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To: Baynative

Thanks for the ping! All the anticipation, and I almost forgot to tune in! Very enjoyable, and any F1 fans (like me) also enjoyed seeing the riders on much the same course as the Monaco GP. Great pics, too! I love the mountain stages, and have really come to appreciate the ITTs, too. I agree, I, too, think we’re in for a great race this year!


33 posted on 07/04/2009 5:25:20 PM PDT by fortunecookie (Please pray for Anna, age 7, who waits for a new kidney.)
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To: Baynative
OMG, now that's a mountain stage! This year it really, really ain't over till the last day.

Every year I say it, but one day I'd like to have my chalk graffiti decorating the road!

34 posted on 07/04/2009 5:28:57 PM PDT by fortunecookie (Please pray for Anna, age 7, who waits for a new kidney.)
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To: lainie
So I see after looking closer at the map. Thanks!
35 posted on 07/04/2009 9:47:33 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy ("Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
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To: Baynative

Well, you make some good points. But even though it’s hard to walk away after dedicating his entire life, he’s already met the goal. Seven times. So my attitude is, you retired, now stay gone; it’s someone else’s turn. I dunno. Maybe I’m too quick to judge.

Either way, as you say, there are plenty of other guys to watch. It’s gonna be a great Tour.


36 posted on 07/04/2009 9:57:36 PM PDT by lainie (The US congress is full to the brim of absolutely disgusting thieves who deserve humiliating ouster.)
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To: Ready4Freddy

No problem, glad to help. The stages look, to quote Bob Roll, “diabolical.”


37 posted on 07/04/2009 9:58:34 PM PDT by lainie (The US congress is full to the brim of absolutely disgusting thieves who deserve humiliating ouster.)
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To: Baynative

Not bad to place 10th over all and just be 00:40 seconds behind the leader in the time trials.

Great for Lance.


38 posted on 07/05/2009 4:50:44 AM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: nutmeg; whattajoke; Aeronaut; jern; concentric circles; Petronski; Voss; Drango; glorgau; Cecily; ..
Fasten your seat belts folks...

It's time for the....

SPRINTERS!

Speaking of sprinters...

Who will ever forget the LION KING...

SUPER MARIO!

ALL HAIL!


39 posted on 07/05/2009 6:00:28 AM PDT by Baynative (Private property and liberty are inseparable.)
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To: cleveland gop

(psst ... are you watching?)


40 posted on 07/05/2009 6:02:20 AM PDT by Baynative (Private property and liberty are inseparable.)
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To: Mom MD
I am glad armstrong is back but I dont believe it will be the same "glory ride" of years back. give him a ton of credit however and wish him a successful ride!

Lance thread from a few years back -- which I took heat regarding

41 posted on 07/05/2009 6:09:42 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!you)
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To: DollyCali

It was a great thread. Lance’s story is an amazing one. Ok, some folks were upset over crossing the FR Finest line but the opener about not being an abortion stat was very strong. I think I’ll remember to send Lance a copy of that link the next time he starts singing the praises of the democrat party.


42 posted on 07/05/2009 6:29:07 AM PDT by Baynative (Private property and liberty are inseparable.)
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To: DollyCali

Riding through Hay Fields (2003)

Lance Armstrong’s tenure at the Tour has included many exhilarating moments. Perhaps the most dramatic occurred in 2003 in Stage 9 from Bourg d’Osians to Gap.

French roads are often resurfaced for Tour stages. But in the nearly omnipresent heat of the 100th anniversary Tour edition, a slight downhill section melted while Spain’s Joseba Beloki and Armstrong began to furiously chase stage leader Alexandre Vinokourov of Kazakhstan.

With Beloki slightly ahead of Armstrong, the duo accelerated to an estimated 40 mph (65 kph). Beloki’s rear wheel suddenly spun out in the melting tar. He swung back and forth for a few seconds, then hit the pavement hard.

Armstrong reacted instantly and swerved to the left. He exited the pavement and rode across a recently plowed field of hay and back toward the race course. Armstrong dismounted his bike, jumped with it across an irrigation ditch and joined a group of riders, just arriving in another chasing pack. Beloki was escorted to a local hospital with several broken bones, lacerations, and other injuries. Armstrong finished second in the stage and went on to claim his record-tying fifth consecutive Tour de France.


43 posted on 07/05/2009 6:29:52 AM PDT by Baynative (Private property and liberty are inseparable.)
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To: Baynative

psst, are you watching????

NO, I’M WATCHING WIMBLEDON!!! But no tea and crumpets though....


44 posted on 07/05/2009 6:39:41 AM PDT by cleveland gop (CLEVELAND, HOME OF LeSHAQ)
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To: Baynative
Thanks for the pings Bay. Didn't get yesterday's til now but I did see part of the TT (Lance's ride at least) in the AM & a bit of the wrapup last night after coming home from the fireworks.

Nobody posted the results yet, so here are the top ten:

[Standing| Rider | Team | Time]

1. CANCELLARA Fabian TEAM SAXO BANK 19' 32"
2. CONTADOR Alberto ASTANA 19' 50"
3. WIGGINS Bradley GARMIN - SLIPSTREAM 19' 51"
4. KLÖDEN Andréas ASTANA 19' 54"
5. EVANS Cadel SILENCE - LOTTO 19' 55"
6. LEIPHEIMER Levi ASTANA 20' 02"
7. KREUZIGER Roman LIQUIGAS 20' 04"
8. MARTIN Tony TEAM COLUMBIA - HTC 20' 05"
9. NIBALI Vincenzo LIQUIGAS 20' 09"
10. ARMSTRONG Lance ASTANA 20' 12"

Noting Roman Kreuziger (Czchechoslovakia?) finish for Liquigas yesterday [#7], Lance tweeted that he used to race against his Dad! Ouch!

45 posted on 07/05/2009 6:54:26 AM PDT by leilani
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To: DollyCali; flattorney
That's a cool thread, Dolly! Especially as Bay mentioned that part about the fact he would have likely been an abortion statistic had Linda done what all 'feminists' & good democrats would have expected her to do.

So here is the guy whose Mom generously let him enjoy his right to life, liberty & the pursuit of happiness after the TT yesterday, back at the hotel watching coverage (snapped by Mark Higgins of Austin):

Speaking of cool threads, searching just now for today's I see that somebody else here made a very nice one for TdF the other day with links & graphics and all which we aren't using but maybe we should invite him/her here because they've done a really nice job & maybe they'll help with our dailies? FLAttorney didn't have our ping list, so here's that thread:

FLATTORNEY'S TdF Thread

46 posted on 07/05/2009 7:09:38 AM PDT by leilani
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To: Baynative

What a beautiful set up by Team Columbia. Cavendish will be the dominant sprinter for a while, but his team lead out was a thing of beauty.


47 posted on 07/05/2009 8:21:11 AM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: Mom MD

Mr. Mom notes that Cavendish was pulling away from the riders in his slipstream!


48 posted on 07/05/2009 8:39:26 AM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: Baynative

Great pics.


49 posted on 07/05/2009 9:28:45 AM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: Baynative; lainie

I followed the Giro and I think Bryneel said Armstrong worked well as a Domestique.

So, from that aspect, it looks like Lance is also an outstanding team player.

How would you like to be racing against a team that has a past Tour winner that is willing to work as a Domestique? Especially if that someone is Lance Armstrong?


50 posted on 07/05/2009 10:53:03 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Greed and envy is used by our political class to exploit the rich and poor.)
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