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What's it like to teach black kids?
Marty Nemko ^ | June 16, 2009 | Marty Nemko

Posted on 07/05/2009 6:16:27 AM PDT by cyberella

Despite almost 50 years of large and accelerating efforts to improve the school achievement of African-American students, the gap between their achievement and that of whites and Asians remains about as large as ever.

Yet proposals for what to do about it seem basically unchanged: Spend more money and divert existing money to reduce class size and train teachers better, have more students take a rigorous college prep curriculum, work on improving self-esteem, eliminate ability-grouped classes, use cooperative-learning techniques, and reassign top teachers to schools with a high percentage of African-American students.

I have become especially doubtful about whether those approaches will work better in the future than they have in the past when I read this report from the trenches. Usually, we hear only from politicians and education leaders (who also are politicians) spouting lofty rhetoric. Occasionally, we hear of a promising program, but which never turns out to be scalable. Or we see a Hollywood movie about some amazing teacher.

We rarely, however, hear from a more typical teacher who, day to day, teaches low-achieving African-American kids. So it was with interest that I read this truly depressing account from a teacher. I've edited out a couple of unnecessarily snarky sentences, which are irrelevant to the issue. Nonetheless the essay is long yet, I believe, worth your time.)

The essay does make me feel uncomfortable because while it presents an eye-opening report from the trenches, it is just one person's report and one that feels more extreme than what I experienced when I taught in a heavily African-American school. Also, while the author made passing mention that not all Blacks behaved as he described, those comments felt, to me, too parenthetical.. Of course, many black students are high-achieving and motivated.

But I decided to post this teacher's essay on my blog for the following reason. The much-needed women's movement was triggered not just by measured academic tomes but also by passionate statements that, even though often excessively male-bashing, shone powerful light on women's plight. Similarly, I believe we need to hear passionate (even if deeply frustrated and overly drawn) reports from the trenches on this issue. For decades, we've certainly heard plenty of the lofty rhetoric from education leaders and academics yet the achievement gap remains and little new is being proposed. I hope that my posting this will make a small contribution toward a more full-dimensioned view of the problem and thus in turn, toward identifying more promising approaches and not be used to justify racist behavior toward African-Americans. That is the last thing I want.

After you read this essay, I hope you'll post your thoughts on what if any implications you believe this has for what we should do differently to better serve the needs of African-American kids, their non-African-American classmates, and in turn, the nation as a whole.

Update, July 4, 2009: I have reviewed the over 150 comments on this essay, updated my knowledge of the research on what works in reducing the racial achievement gap, and drafted a plan for doing so. Here's the link.

What is it Like to Teach Black Students?

by Christopher Jackson

Until recently I taught at a predominantly black high school in a southeastern state. contined at http://martynemko.blogspot.com/2009/06/white-teacher-speaks-out-what-is-it.html


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Education
KEYWORDS: africanamericans; blackstudents; education

1 posted on 07/05/2009 6:16:27 AM PDT by cyberella
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To: cyberella
Depends on who's doing the teaching!

Rapper Jay-Z

2 posted on 07/05/2009 6:21:07 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: cyberella
This is interesting...

YouTube - Black teacher teaches how to pronounce words like ask

3 posted on 07/05/2009 6:32:21 AM PDT by rickmichaels
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To: rickmichaels

Hey now who needs a good education when you have affirmative action.


4 posted on 07/05/2009 6:43:22 AM PDT by quesera (We are so screwed!!)
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To: cyberella

Recently watched part of a brutishly-honest HBO documentary about Baltimore’s Frederick Douglass High school, and was reminded of my wife’s part-year as a translating aide at the biggest high school around. Classes seem to often begin with a large black girl hollering “Hey, why you axin’ us to sit down ‘cause you ain’t sittin’ down? You think we gon’ give any respeck we don’t be gettin’? How come you think you gots to make us learn your way? Our way be diff’ent and fresh, jus’ like we be fresh to you. We sit when we ...”


5 posted on 07/05/2009 6:43:26 AM PDT by flowerplough (Bammy = Oprah = Clinton = most elected Democrats, successfully feigning compassion for money&power)
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To: cyberella

I taught in the trenches. It’s class. Not color.


6 posted on 07/05/2009 6:51:27 AM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: cyberella
how do you teach a kid that does NOT want to learn, cause learning is acting white???
7 posted on 07/05/2009 6:54:12 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: rickmichaels
notice they never say AXhole...
8 posted on 07/05/2009 6:55:54 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: cyberella

Speaking from a 1 year stint teaching middle school in Detroit..it was HELL! I was on the wrong side of the bars every day for 9 months. There was no teaching, it was about surviving each day for myself and my students.

The idyllic teaching perceptions I graduated with were beaten down and there was nothing left to give. I gave up...but I did survive the year.


9 posted on 07/05/2009 6:56:31 AM PDT by jp3 (BABIES, GUNS & JESUS...HOT DAMN!!)
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To: cyberella
That article is beyond belief.

My sister teaches in an inner city school in New Orleans (mostly black), and has told me many horror stories. Here are some:

Kids stimulating sex

Kids calling her the "F" word.

Kids jumping on chairs during class time

Kids with knives

Etc. Basically a lot of out of control kids.

The stories are real, but at the same time, many of the kids are funny, warm, compassionate, caring, want to do better in life, etc. Some go on to college.

If one student cusses her out, five will chime in to shut up. She has plenty of likable kids, and a number of them are involved in their churches. She's totally burnt out by the end of the school year, but she goes back in the fall because she does love the kids and does make a difference in many of their lives.

The guy who wrote that article should never have been near a mostly black school. Good riddance.

10 posted on 07/05/2009 7:00:21 AM PDT by Texas_shutterbug (e)
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To: cyberella

I think a big part of the solution would be to get the parents involved and have them put a foot in their kids’ butt. Now we have too many who think their kid can do no wrong.


11 posted on 07/05/2009 7:10:26 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Diversity causes division and resentment.)
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To: cyberella

That essay could have been written by me or one of the teachers from my high school following the integration of the white and black high schools in my home town in 1969. My high school went from 100% white to 80% black.

I graduated from public high school in 1972 with the few white kids whose parents couldn’t afford to send them to private school. We’d walk the halls, trying to be as inconspicuous as possible, going from one chaotic classroom to another chaotic classroom. The teachers had no control and the principal, who was black, didn’t seem to give a damn.

Now, almost 40 years and trillions of dollars later, the scene is virtually unchanged and unimproved.


12 posted on 07/05/2009 7:10:39 AM PDT by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: cyberella

“proposals for what to do about it seem basically unchanged”

My frame of reference wrt this goes back as far as the late 1950’s in terms of perceiving learning attitude (not aptitude) and results with blacks, admittedly minimal in social/civilian life, but quite a bit more in the military.

The statement I snipped above is astonishing! The attitude of society in general and educators changed drastically in the late 1960’s with the advent of the “great society” and all that it brought forth across the spectrum.

My Afro age-group-peers and those who are even older are much better educated than the vast majority of the present day examples. This is only my own opinion.

The conspiracy of ignorance amongst educators is real, and it has dumbed down ALL public education, and over time statements such as the one snipped above have come to fit within and be accurate within the frames of reference of those who would make such a statement.


13 posted on 07/05/2009 7:11:32 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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To: cyberella

The left has spent 50+ years telling blacks that they are inferior, victims, incapable of success and entirely dependent upon the government. In other words, democrats/leftists have gleefully destroyed an entire race for the purpose of buying votes and winning elections.


14 posted on 07/05/2009 7:19:02 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Oldpuppymax

And let the truth be told. The left simply are evil!


15 posted on 07/05/2009 7:24:35 AM PDT by quesera (We are so screwed!!)
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To: cyberella

That was an excellent read, thank you. It sums up my opinion that in general there is no accountability built into black society and no ambition to excel or take advantage of the educational opportunities that are available. Instead there is a very deliberate pattern of thumbing their noses at white values. I didn’t see any mention of parental involvement in this article. It’s a definite class issue and not about race at all. Look at how Asian students typically place in the top of their classes despite poverty and language issues. White flight is still very real because once large groups of black students populate a school learning becomes secondary to their classroom antics, excuses and intimidation. Nobody learns anything. It’s a very sad vicious circle.


16 posted on 07/05/2009 7:34:27 AM PDT by McLynnan
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To: cyberella

No surprise there, but it’s encouraging to hear someone speak the truth once in a while.


17 posted on 07/05/2009 7:51:42 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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bfl


18 posted on 07/05/2009 7:58:31 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne ("Drill now drill hard drill often and give old Gaia a cigarette afterwards she deserves it." HerrBlu)
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To: cyberella
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2283059/posts
19 posted on 07/05/2009 8:00:59 AM PDT by Caesar Soze
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To: Caesar Soze

The answer is pretty simple: human biodiversity. See http://vdare.com/sailer/071203_iq.htm, http://www.halfsigma.com/2009/06/hbd-human-biodiversity.html, and http://onestdv.blogspot.com/2009/05/quick-easy-to-understand-primer-on.html.


20 posted on 07/05/2009 8:33:48 AM PDT by nodont
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To: Caesar Soze

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2283059/posts";
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Begging your pardon, Sir, but I posted this article first last night and it was removed because of ‘language’. I put it up again today and left the essay with the ‘language’ out
because I thought this was an interesting and important article.


21 posted on 07/05/2009 8:35:32 AM PDT by cyberella
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To: ReagansShinyHair
Some anecdotal observations I made on trips to Rio de Janerio. Brazilian blacks are not slovenly, do not walk with a shuffle but with a purpose, are overwhelmingly courteous, etc. This is not what I observe in too many American blacks (I refuse to use African-American). It, IMHO, is a cultural thing attributable to liberals and poverty pimps.
22 posted on 07/05/2009 9:43:46 AM PDT by Tahoe3002
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To: cyberella

After all the approaches, budget changes and eye-rolling it remains difficult to not accept the obvious answer to the dilemma is that it’s caused by the quality of the raw material.


23 posted on 07/05/2009 10:18:17 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: quesera

Spot on.


24 posted on 07/05/2009 10:18:33 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: cyberella

My niece taught in an inner city grade school, she spent more time teaching them to talk than she did teaching them the 3 Rs. How can you teach a child to read English when they basically don’t speak English.


25 posted on 07/05/2009 10:39:24 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: ReagansShinyHair

Amen! But how do we assimilate them?


26 posted on 07/05/2009 10:40:54 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Old Professer
"it remains difficult to not accept the obvious answer to the dilemma is that it's caused by the quality of the raw material"

If you look at the results across the globe for different races, your conclusion would seem reasonable. But, it's my firm belief that it's a spiritual problem.

Satan comes as an angel of light, with a mission to blind the eyes of unbelievers (and believers if possible). This darkness can envelope a person, a group, a nation, or an entire continent. Consider in Daniel Ch.10 where Daniel was fasting in order to hear from the Lord, but heard nothing for 21 days. The angel Gabriel (I assume Gabriel based on Ch 6 in the Lion's den) fought to deliver God's message, but was unable to break through the stronghold of "the prince of the kingdom of Persia" (v.13) until Michael, the highest archangel, intervened. This shows that there are incredibly powerful spiritual forces controlling territories and their peoples.

Looking for natural or earthly solutions based on humanistic understanding will continue to yield the same failed results.

27 posted on 07/05/2009 11:53:38 AM PDT by uncommonsense
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To: cyberella

mr marty

I trust you will recognize the question:

“Why is that not anathema to you?”


28 posted on 07/05/2009 11:59:35 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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To: Texas_shutterbug
Who do you think you are al baby

Kids stimulating sex

29 posted on 07/05/2009 12:01:54 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Texas_shutterbug

“She’s totally burnt out by the end of the school year, but she goes back in the fall because she does love the kids and does make a difference in many of their lives.”

But to some she’s evil because she teaches in a public school.

I applaud your sister’s tenacity!!!


30 posted on 07/05/2009 12:14:55 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: rickmichaels

Yes, it is.

What makes those students open to McClendon’s suggestions? They attend a private school where the students are motivated and have parents that care.
I do not think his ideas would be so well received in most public schools.


31 posted on 07/05/2009 12:16:52 PM PDT by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.... Obama even worse than Carter.)
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To: Morgana; All

I posted this piece on another top forum, and the Libs came out and ATE ME ALIVE before it was pulled.
I was called racist for posting it (?) and there were comments like ‘this makes me want to vomit’.
I don’t understand this. I just thought it a very interesting and important article.

It seems to me the teacher did the best he could..what do they want????


33 posted on 07/05/2009 3:15:44 PM PDT by cyberella
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To: cyberella
achievement gap

That is a very leftist way of looking at education. The easiest way to close achievement gaps is to bring down the achievers, and that is the normal leftist envy-driven evil outcome. Instead we should focus on opportunity gaps and let the chips fall where they may. Modern life is a continuous fountain of opportunities. Educators should strive to create opportunities for students. Equal outcome is not a desirable goal.

34 posted on 07/05/2009 4:10:07 PM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: al baby

If your giving speeling lessions, I needs some.


35 posted on 07/05/2009 4:13:13 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: Tahoe3002

I sooooo agree.
Now I tell people I am not a Racist...I am a Cultural Bigot and proud of it!

And give me a break on the poverty thing...when I was growing up there were other immigrants from all over..poor as could be. But the houses and people were clean, the streets were clean and people showed respect in and out of school. Being poor has NOTHING to do with it.


36 posted on 07/05/2009 4:14:45 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Pray for Israel!)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

Your axeing the wrong dude


37 posted on 07/05/2009 4:15:43 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
And give me a break on the poverty thing...when I was growing up there were other immigrants from all over..poor as could be. But the houses and people were clean, the streets were clean and people showed respect in and out of school. Being poor has NOTHING to do with it.

*******************

Agreed.

38 posted on 07/05/2009 4:16:16 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Reeses

The real gap is the “ambition gap.” To blacks, being ambitious is considered “White” and not “Keepin’ it Real.”


39 posted on 07/05/2009 4:17:45 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: al baby

Ok. ill ax some other dud.


40 posted on 07/05/2009 4:27:13 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: MARTIAL MONK

u guys are too funny


42 posted on 07/05/2009 5:44:34 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: McLynnan

Freepers are cheating themselves if they don’t read the whole thing

http://martynemko.blogspot.com/2009/06/white-teacher-speaks-out-what-is-it.html


43 posted on 07/05/2009 7:49:50 PM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: dennisw; All

Right. Very informative and vital read.


44 posted on 07/05/2009 8:21:09 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: cyberella

and the Libs came out and ATE ME ALIVE
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

They were likely PAID PROFESSIONALS. They will make almost any nonsensical complaint to the moderators to get a thread pulled. Their ultimate goal is to get a poster banned.

Remember...The Marxists would kill us if they could. They just can’t get away with it...(yet).


45 posted on 07/05/2009 8:30:15 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: cyberella
There is nothing in this story that did not strike a chord with me; I have lived it. Every concept, stereotype, and action detailed in this story is spot on.

The ignorance, laziness, hostility and the just-plain-hatefulness-against white-people are things I witnessed daily when I worked in the schools.

I decided back then that if I won the lottery I would use the money to identify the good kids (who actually wanted to learn) and pay for them to attend private schools, as the environment of the public schools (that I worked in) was rife with violence, disrespect, and anti-white hatred.

Due to a series of eye-opening experiences (many of which were touched upon in the article), it was at this time in my life that I began to seriously consider the viability of a civil war. I think it may be the only way to turn our once-great country around.

46 posted on 07/06/2009 7:42:39 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Buy Lots Of Ammo Today: BLOAT)
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To: cyberella

bump


47 posted on 07/07/2009 12:33:16 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Tired of Taxes

Marking to comment later.


48 posted on 07/07/2009 1:57:28 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: cyberella
I have no doubt that the students in his classes behaved the way he says they did. But, growing up, almost everyone across the color spectrum in my town talked, walked, and behaved that way. It's a matter of class and culture.

One reason we homeschool is to keep our children out of these types of toxic environments. Outside the school system, they only come across bad behavior here and there, not six hours a day.

But, I'm not impressed at all by this teacher. Based on his observations at ONE school, he draws broad generalizations. Then he misses the real point: that the public school exists only to protect jobs (like his). Without it, the private sector would offer education only to the students who valued one.

49 posted on 07/07/2009 11:16:32 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: rickmichaels
Thanks for the link.

What's really interesting is the comments posted. The discussion gets very nasty and racist.

It's a video of a black teacher teaching black students about the importance of proper pronunciation, and how it helps with getting a job and “first impressions”.

A good lesson, you would think. But the idiots who posted comments are horrible! Such racist comments from both sides! No wonder our schools are in such a state of disrepair. No one takes any personal responsibility for their actions anymore.

50 posted on 07/07/2009 11:34:09 PM PDT by airborne (Congratulations to the Stanley Cup Champions! PITTSBURGH PENGUINS RULE!!!)
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