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Death penalty sought in landlord slaying (Landlord told tenant that dogs were not allowed)
UPI ^

Posted on 07/07/2009 10:52:12 AM PDT by Chet 99

CHICAGO, July 6 (UPI) -- Illinois prosecutors say they're seeking the death penalty for a Chicago man who allegedly beat his landlord to death with garden tools.

Cook County, Ill., officials said Sunday Martin Vega, 27, is eligible for the death penalty for allegedly killing landlord William Hallin, 67, using the garden tools, an ice scraper, a BB gun and a pipe before setting the body on fire, The Chicago Tribune reported.

Judge Maria Kuriakos Ciesil has denied bail for Vega, the newspaper said.

Assistant Cook County State's Attorney Emily Stevens alleged Vega killed Hallin Friday when the landlord came around to collect the rent and noticed Vega had a dog in his apartment, which was banned by the rental agreement.

Stevens said when Hallin ordered Vega to remove the dog, a fight ensued in which the tenant allegedly pushed the landlord down a flight of stairs, tied him up in the basement, struck him in the head with a lamp, choked him with a rope and set his body on fire, the Tribune reported.


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1 posted on 07/07/2009 10:52:13 AM PDT by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99
Seems uncalled-for.
2 posted on 07/07/2009 10:56:06 AM PDT by americanophile (Sarcasm: satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language.)
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To: Chet 99

If convicted and Vega receives the death penalty, he will have at least 15 years before the sentence is carried out.

The death penalty should come a heck of a lot quicker.


3 posted on 07/07/2009 10:58:11 AM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: VicVega

There never was a savage defendant that an American judge could not ultimately sympathize with. In our society the socially conscious intuitively side with the criminal element. The more savage the defendant the greater the pity one feels for him. One might call it “Pathological Pity!


4 posted on 07/07/2009 11:03:23 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: VicVega

It will be reduced to Life Imprisonment or less for something like “Mental Duress”. Folks just don’t believe the scriptures anymore “Thou shalt not suffer a murderer to live”


5 posted on 07/07/2009 11:04:12 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

You’re correct. I have no doubt the pity party will begin for Vega. What a wonderful, loving person he is. The landlord was always tormenting my client.

We see it all the time.


6 posted on 07/07/2009 11:08:28 AM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: sr4402
It will be reduced to Life Imprisonment or less for something like “Mental Duress”.

That, plus he must enroll in anger management.
7 posted on 07/07/2009 11:22:10 AM PDT by papasmurf (Save us from 0bama, I prayed. Then I heard, "the 2nd, I saved")
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To: shibumi; Slings and Arrows

Ban pit tools!


8 posted on 07/07/2009 11:33:25 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: Chet 99

That is one ugly dog. I wonder what his murdering owner looks like...


9 posted on 07/07/2009 11:36:10 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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Well, if Mr. Vega draws a “wise Latina” judge dismissive of the rights of white people, he won't have to fear the death penalty. Anyway, Sotopior is on record as saying the death penalty is, like everything else she surveys, “racist.”
10 posted on 07/07/2009 11:41:10 AM PDT by Godwin1 (O)
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To: sr4402

Actually, it says “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live”.

[the word translated into “witch” being pharmakeia, which can mean any of three definitions]

1]the use or the administering of drugs
poisoning
2]sorcery, magical arts, often found in connection with idolatry and fostered by it
3]metaph. the deceptions and seductions of idolatry

Given that we get “pharmacist” from “pharmakeia”, most agree that poison/drugs was the intent as King James had a massive phobia about being poisoned.

The later “misunderstanding” of the word gave us all those jolly inquisitions.


11 posted on 07/07/2009 11:42:18 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: Salamander

I’m sure the dog is going do really well.


12 posted on 07/07/2009 11:52:49 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Crazy is the new sane.)
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To: Salamander

You are correct, my memory cells have failed me once again. I found “he is a murderer; the murderer shall surely be put to death” several times in the Old Testament (Numbers). Should have looked it up before posting. Thanks.


13 posted on 07/07/2009 11:55:39 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: Slings and Arrows

On the upside, he no longer has a raving, murderous lunatic for an owner....:)


14 posted on 07/07/2009 12:00:11 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: sr4402

I just have a crummy attitude about the whole “mistranslation/inquisition/wanton slaughter of innocents” thing....:)

[I’m kinda picky that way]....;-D


15 posted on 07/07/2009 12:02:34 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: Salamander

True dat.


16 posted on 07/07/2009 12:03:20 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Crazy is the new sane.)
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To: sr4402
Folks just don’t believe the scriptures anymore “Thou shalt not suffer a murderer to live”

I'm afraid that my Holy Scripture is a little rusty, sr4402... mind citing the book, chapter, and verse from which you're quoting there?

Thanks in advance!

Regards,

17 posted on 07/07/2009 12:08:44 PM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: alexander_busek
I was off and was corrected earlier in this thread. But the theme is correct. It is repeated three times in three verses: Numbers 35:16 ‘But if he strikes him with an iron implement, so that he dies, he is a murderer; the murderer shall surely be put to death. Numbers 35:15-17 (in Context) Numbers 35 (Whole Chapter) Numbers 35:17 And if he strikes him with a stone in the hand, by which one could die, and he does die, he is a murderer; the murderer shall surely be put to death. Numbers 35:16-18 (in Context) Numbers 35 (Whole Chapter) Numbers 35:18 Or if he strikes him with a wooden hand weapon, by which one could die, and he does die, he is a murderer; the murderer shall surely be put to death. Numbers 35:17-19 (in Context) Numbers 35 (Whole Chapter)
18 posted on 07/07/2009 12:14:21 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402
I was off and was corrected earlier in this thread. But the theme is correct. It is repeated three times in three verses: Numbers 35:16 ‘But if he strikes him with an iron implement, so that he dies, he is a murderer; the murderer shall surely be put to death. Numbers 35:15-17 (in Context) Numbers 35 (Whole Chapter) Numbers 35:17 And if he strikes him with a stone in the hand, by which one could die, and he does die, he is a murderer; the murderer shall surely be put to death. Numbers 35:16-18 (in Context) Numbers 35 (Whole Chapter) Numbers 35:18 Or if he strikes him with a wooden hand weapon, by which one could die, and he does die, he is a murderer; the murderer shall surely be put to death. Numbers 35:17-19 (in Context) Numbers 35 (Whole Chapter)

Yes, but the Old Testaments contains many, many passages demanding that people be put to death for offences which, today, would be considered trivial.

Cue the scene from "West Wing" in which Martin Sheen cites numerous Biblical verses illustrating just how absurd it is to make moral judgements based upon the Old Testament.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4jryX_DGUQ

Regards,

19 posted on 07/07/2009 12:51:43 PM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: alexander_busek
Freind, God's standards do not change even though Governments do. His statment "Thou shalt not kill (Murder)" rings true whereever men go.

His standard goes to the heart, if you've even thought about murdering someone in your mind - even to the point of calling someone a "fool" - ("racca" in Aramaic), just as Jesus said will be answerable to the God of heaven.

Without the appropriated blood of Christ, none of these sins will be paid for. Such that one would face the most powerful being in the Universe - naked and without one plea.

For the purpose of the Law is to point us to Christ and the need for Him as Savior.

Today, we don't observe the verses I wrote about. Today a Liberal Judge will probably set a murderer free to kill a mother or a child. Tommorrows judges may say, there is no penalty for murder because that would be "too cruel and unusual".

The Slouching towards Gamorrah accelerates as folks assume everything will be alright.

20 posted on 07/07/2009 2:14:52 PM PDT by sr4402
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