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Palin quoting Cronkite and Plato
Twitter ^ | June 10, 2009 | Sarah Palin

Posted on 07/10/2009 11:02:10 AM PDT by SolidWood

...."Most newspapermen by definition have to be liberal; if they're not, by my definition, they can hardly be good newspapermen" W. Cronkite

"You learn more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation" -Plato

Sarah Palin on Twitter


TOPICS: Education; Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: crankycronkite; cronkite; media; palin; plato; pravdamedia; sarahpalin; seebsnews; twitter; waltercronkite
Love the dig at the media-scum... LOL!

Also she quotes Plato... yep the MSM is right... she's an illiterate idiot./sarc

She has BTW 92,299 followers on Twitter already. That's 50,000 more than on the day of her resignation.

1 posted on 07/10/2009 11:02:11 AM PDT by SolidWood
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To: SolidWood
Palin needs to reread some of her Plato, as I'm sure she's want to do. This quote, although widely attributed to Plato on various internet sites (mental note, don't believe everything you read on internet sites), is wildly and incorrect. Plato's version, as expected, is a little more complex and inspiring...

“Take heed of playing often or deep at Dice and Games of Chance, for that is more chargeable than the seven deadly sins; Yet you may allow your self a certain easie Sum to spend at Play, to gratifie Friends, and pass over the Winter Nights, and that will make you indifferent for the Event. If you would read a man’s Disposition, see him Game, you will then learn more of him in one hour, than in seven Years Conversation, and little Wagers will try him as soon as great Stakes, for then he is off his Guard.”

2 posted on 07/10/2009 11:16:04 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: OldDeckHand

Problem is, you can’t post more than 140 characters on Twitter. The full Plato is too long. ;o)


3 posted on 07/10/2009 11:18:48 AM PDT by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
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To: SolidWood
"Problem is, you can’t post more than 140 characters on Twitter. The full Plato is too long. ;o)"

Yep, I'm sure that's why the attribution as well as the "quote" is incorrect - space deficit - makes sense.

4 posted on 07/10/2009 11:20:47 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: OldDeckHand

140 character limit, that is the one thing that sucks about twitter, you gotta abbreviate everything there or else it won’t fit


5 posted on 07/10/2009 11:21:13 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: OldDeckHand
You'll notice that all the other tweets (especially made on a Blackberry) are often full of abbreviations and typos. Brave new internet world. Lol.
6 posted on 07/10/2009 11:23:54 AM PDT by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
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To: SolidWood
Some pretty reputable quote sources have it as Palin tweeted:

BrainyQuote(Plato)

7 posted on 07/10/2009 11:52:04 AM PDT by Al B. (Dennis Miller on why he loves Sarah Palin: "She bugs all the right people")
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To: SolidWood

....”Most newspapermen by definition have to be liberal; if they’re not, by my definition, they can hardly be good newspapermen” W. Cronkite

Is this nonsensical and self-serving or am I just missing something?


8 posted on 07/10/2009 11:53:44 AM PDT by Castigar
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To: Castigar

You didn’t miss anything. Cronkite was a known communist bastage.


9 posted on 07/10/2009 12:03:08 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Al B.
Some pretty reputable quote sources have it as Palin tweeted

I wouldn't be surprised if Palin misquoted it by copying it from one of those sources - perhaps she couldn't recall the exact quote (but knew that Plato said something along those lines), and googled it to confirm (finding the incorrect, but commonly-misquoted "quote")

10 posted on 07/10/2009 12:05:57 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: OldDeckHand
certain easie Sum to spend at Play, to gratifie Friends

It's all in the translation. What's with the old English spellings? I assume Plato wrote in Greek.

11 posted on 07/10/2009 12:10:39 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

She also referenced something Plato said many months ago in an interview with Hannity.


12 posted on 07/10/2009 12:14:32 PM PDT by Al B. (Dennis Miller on why he loves Sarah Palin: "She bugs all the right people")
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To: dead; OldDeckHand

Lots of times people quote old translations...they are in the public domain.

I’m raising an eyebrow on the quote over the “seven deadly sins” line....that’s a typically Christian saying and I dunno if the Greeks had anything similar.


13 posted on 07/10/2009 12:19:37 PM PDT by Claud
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To: OldDeckHand

So, it wasn’t Plato who said what you posted, either?


14 posted on 07/10/2009 12:20:51 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: SolidWood

15 posted on 07/10/2009 12:21:44 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: OldDeckHand

There’s all kinds of false quotes out there—especially on those quote amalgamation sites. I see stuff attributed to D’Tocqueville with very modern-sounding phrases that you know aren’t from the 1800s. That’s just not how they wrote back then (even in French).


16 posted on 07/10/2009 12:23:54 PM PDT by Claud
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To: definitelynotaliberal
"So, it wasn’t Plato who said what you posted, either?"

Probably not. That quote is from Lingard, but it's unclear if he lifted it from an earlier source. Some proffer that he did, and that earlier source was Plato - at least in part.

But, what Palin attributes to Plato, is clearly not Plato. Anyone who's read Athenian philosophy would recognize that the texture, syntax and rhythm are all entirely wrong.

17 posted on 07/10/2009 12:25:46 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: OldDeckHand

what’s it supposedly from, the Dialogues? I’m trying to track the original down.


18 posted on 07/10/2009 12:28:33 PM PDT by Claud
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To: Castigar

“Is this nonsensical and self-serving or am I just missing something?”

Apparently you are missing something. The full contest of Cronkite’s quote can be read here:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/07/when-palin-quoted-cronkite.html

In fairness to Palin, however, she didn’t remove the context (though it would have been impossible in twitter). It was already removed in the various blogs she obviously took the quote from. But, as someone pointed out already, no one should take everthing they read on the internet as true, much less the whole truth.


19 posted on 07/10/2009 12:32:45 PM PDT by Sezme
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To: Claud
"what’s it supposedly from, the Dialogues?"

I don't believe it's in anything directly attributable to Plato's hand. But, you might find something written by a student or contemporary that vaguely resembles at least the intent of the quote.

The quote that most closely resembles what Palin cited, and that I posted in it's entirety is from a 1900's era writer named Lingard. Regardless of who did say originally, we know it wasn't Plato, and perhaps no one who wore a flowing white bedsheet for that matter.

20 posted on 07/10/2009 12:36:45 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: SolidWood

The Most Mistrusted Man In America.

He did nothing to EARN trust. He looked the part.

His audience was conned.


21 posted on 07/10/2009 12:59:17 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: OldDeckHand

You’re right. It’s from Richard Lingard’s “Letter of Advice to a Young Gentleman leaving the University”, published in 1670 and reprinted in 1907.

http://books.google.com/books?id=JBISAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA39&dq=Take+heed+of+playing+often+or+deep+at+Dice+and+Games+of+Chance&client=firefox-a


22 posted on 07/10/2009 1:05:08 PM PDT by Claud
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To: OldDeckHand
But, what Palin attributes to Plato, is clearly not Plato. Anyone who's read Athenian philosophy would recognize that the texture, syntax and rhythm are all entirely wrong.

Expect Celtic Skank to file an ethics violation shortly.
23 posted on 07/10/2009 1:22:52 PM PDT by Uncle Ivan (Alea iacta est)
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To: Sezme

Thanks for pointing that out. Standing alone it was absurd but really it makes sense in context - except tht I don’t believe Cronkite was “liberal” by his definition - I think he was left of center.


24 posted on 07/10/2009 2:23:10 PM PDT by Castigar
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