Skip to comments.Palin quoting Cronkite and Plato
Posted on 07/10/2009 11:02:10 AM PDT by SolidWood
...."Most newspapermen by definition have to be liberal; if they're not, by my definition, they can hardly be good newspapermen" W. Cronkite
"You learn more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation" -Plato
Sarah Palin on Twitter
Also she quotes Plato... yep the MSM is right... she's an illiterate idiot./sarc
She has BTW 92,299 followers on Twitter already. That's 50,000 more than on the day of her resignation.
Take heed of playing often or deep at Dice and Games of Chance, for that is more chargeable than the seven deadly sins; Yet you may allow your self a certain easie Sum to spend at Play, to gratifie Friends, and pass over the Winter Nights, and that will make you indifferent for the Event. If you would read a mans Disposition, see him Game, you will then learn more of him in one hour, than in seven Years Conversation, and little Wagers will try him as soon as great Stakes, for then he is off his Guard.
Problem is, you can’t post more than 140 characters on Twitter. The full Plato is too long. ;o)
Yep, I'm sure that's why the attribution as well as the "quote" is incorrect - space deficit - makes sense.
140 character limit, that is the one thing that sucks about twitter, you gotta abbreviate everything there or else it won’t fit
....”Most newspapermen by definition have to be liberal; if they’re not, by my definition, they can hardly be good newspapermen” W. Cronkite
Is this nonsensical and self-serving or am I just missing something?
You didn’t miss anything. Cronkite was a known communist bastage.
I wouldn't be surprised if Palin misquoted it by copying it from one of those sources - perhaps she couldn't recall the exact quote (but knew that Plato said something along those lines), and googled it to confirm (finding the incorrect, but commonly-misquoted "quote")
It's all in the translation. What's with the old English spellings? I assume Plato wrote in Greek.
She also referenced something Plato said many months ago in an interview with Hannity.
Lots of times people quote old translations...they are in the public domain.
I’m raising an eyebrow on the quote over the “seven deadly sins” line....that’s a typically Christian saying and I dunno if the Greeks had anything similar.
So, it wasn’t Plato who said what you posted, either?
There’s all kinds of false quotes out there—especially on those quote amalgamation sites. I see stuff attributed to D’Tocqueville with very modern-sounding phrases that you know aren’t from the 1800s. That’s just not how they wrote back then (even in French).
Probably not. That quote is from Lingard, but it's unclear if he lifted it from an earlier source. Some proffer that he did, and that earlier source was Plato - at least in part.
But, what Palin attributes to Plato, is clearly not Plato. Anyone who's read Athenian philosophy would recognize that the texture, syntax and rhythm are all entirely wrong.
what’s it supposedly from, the Dialogues? I’m trying to track the original down.
“Is this nonsensical and self-serving or am I just missing something?”
Apparently you are missing something. The full contest of Cronkite’s quote can be read here:
In fairness to Palin, however, she didn’t remove the context (though it would have been impossible in twitter). It was already removed in the various blogs she obviously took the quote from. But, as someone pointed out already, no one should take everthing they read on the internet as true, much less the whole truth.
I don't believe it's in anything directly attributable to Plato's hand. But, you might find something written by a student or contemporary that vaguely resembles at least the intent of the quote.
The quote that most closely resembles what Palin cited, and that I posted in it's entirety is from a 1900's era writer named Lingard. Regardless of who did say originally, we know it wasn't Plato, and perhaps no one who wore a flowing white bedsheet for that matter.
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You’re right. It’s from Richard Lingard’s “Letter of Advice to a Young Gentleman leaving the University”, published in 1670 and reprinted in 1907.
Thanks for pointing that out. Standing alone it was absurd but really it makes sense in context - except tht I don’t believe Cronkite was “liberal” by his definition - I think he was left of center.
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