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Saddam Hussein's gun to go on display at Bush library
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Posted on 07/14/2009 6:59:59 PM PDT by Brother Cracker

Deposed Iraqi leader was armed with the pistol when Delta Force troops captured him in 2003

George Bush is not a man who does irony. It's not in his personal vocabulary. Take the exquisite irony behind the story of Saddam Hussein's gun.

The weapon, a 9mm Glock 18C, was discovered by Delta Force special troops when they dug Hussein out of his fox hole outside Tikrit on 13 December 2003. The legendary beast of Baghdad emerged from the 8ft-deep hole bewildered and disorientated; with his shaggy beard and unkempt mop of hair he looked closer to a dishevelled elf than one of the world's great dictators.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: banglist; gun; iraq; saddam
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1 posted on 07/14/2009 7:00:00 PM PDT by Brother Cracker
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maybe an auction of this weapon with proceeds going to our brave wounded warriors, VA hospitals etc instead of going to bush’s library might be an Idea? just a thought.


2 posted on 07/14/2009 7:04:38 PM PDT by bobby.223
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3 posted on 07/14/2009 7:05:52 PM PDT by Sax
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To: bobby.223
maybe an auction of this weapon with proceeds going to our brave wounded warriors

Unfortunately, private "civilians" aren't allowed to own Glock model 18s in the United States (since they are post 1986, the BATFE refuses to accept the tax for them).

4 posted on 07/14/2009 7:12:04 PM PDT by Technogeeb (The only good Russian is a dead Russian. Rest in Peace, Solzhenitsyn.)
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It’s also government property.

I just don’t see what’s so wrong with an artifact going to a museum. There are many, many people working to help wounded vets. This doesn’t hurt veterans’ care.


5 posted on 07/14/2009 7:14:32 PM PDT by MediaMole
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6 posted on 07/14/2009 7:16:57 PM PDT by Brother Cracker
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The holy grail of the gun world - the American Flag Gold Batman gun!

I’ve heard that brandishing it is enough to make even the hardest of bad guys soil themselves at the mere sight of it!!


7 posted on 07/14/2009 7:21:34 PM PDT by Sax
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when they dug Hussein out of his fox hole outside Tikrit on 13 December 2003

Thought it was called a 'spider hole' at the time?

8 posted on 07/14/2009 7:25:01 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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FYI, The Guardian UK is the most anti-American newspaper in the UK.

I speed-read through the article and instead of describing the weapon, it turned into a sermon about “hate Bush” and “reasons for the Iraq War” BDS. Typical about their reporters...


9 posted on 07/14/2009 7:28:31 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Technogeeb

I should have clicked the video first I guess! without it, that shows how little I know about glocks!!!! any idea if that specific glock model is manufactured by them in quantity for various military forces around the world or is it just something built as a custom in small numbers?


10 posted on 07/14/2009 7:35:03 PM PDT by bobby.223
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They wanted something to rival the Beretta 93R, designed in the 1970s!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhhXF_jPBqc&feature=PlayList&p=09FBB064C45D2375&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=26


11 posted on 07/14/2009 8:00:08 PM PDT by Sax
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any idea if that specific glock model is manufactured by them in quantity for various military forces around the world or is it just something built as a custom in small numbers?

They are a regular production item, although produced in far fewer numbers than other Glock models. A few police forces have purchased them, but I'm not aware of any military that has adopted them except in limited numbers for special roles (Portugal bought quite a few, but for what purpose I don't know).

Those in the US have come from the IRS, DEA, and EPA purchases, as well as a few major police departments (LA and NYC).

12 posted on 07/14/2009 8:37:13 PM PDT by Technogeeb (The only good Russian is a dead Russian. Rest in Peace, Solzhenitsyn.)
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Those in the US have come from the IRS, DEA, and EPA purchases...

Why would the EPA need guns??

13 posted on 07/14/2009 8:53:12 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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Why would the EPA need guns??

They can seize property and levy fines now (based on regulations that they themselves write), so they probably need them to keep from being shot by business and other property owners when they're engaged in enforcement activities.

14 posted on 07/14/2009 9:03:02 PM PDT by Technogeeb (The only good Russian is a dead Russian. Rest in Peace, Solzhenitsyn.)
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"Why would the EPA need guns??"

I think you could ask this question about a lot of government agencies. There are people in the postal services who carry sidearms. What does it say about our country when our government is ensuring more and more governmental agencies are armed while attempting to disarm the people?
15 posted on 07/15/2009 4:53:38 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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They can seize property and levy fines now (based on regulations that they themselves write)

Judge and jury.

16 posted on 07/15/2009 6:31:56 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Brother Cracker

Police & military can obtain the G18 at a price comparable to the G17. It has a select-fire switch, a slide incompatible with any other Glock model, and fires around 1800rpm. It is a standard production model (legality in your jurisdiction may vary).

Rumors are there are 6 civilian-legal copies in the USA, with selling prices around a quarter-million dollars.

Let’s get 922(o) repealed/overturned, shall we?


17 posted on 07/15/2009 7:00:17 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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How indeed does the pistol fit with the decision to go to war?

It doesn't.
It fits with the victory in that war.

Which is where irony, or the former president's lack of it, kicks in. Hussein was found with the pistol as he crouched on all fours in his cave. But he offered no resistance to the Delta Forces and when they came to confiscate his gun they found that it was unloaded. It is safe to assume that the Bush library will not labour that point when it opens in 2013.

Not irony. The despotic dictator was vanquished by both attrition (ran out of ammo) and by force (sidearm confiscated) - a comprehensive victory.

A nation does not celebrate the start of a war, it celebrates the favorable conclusion thereof.

18 posted on 07/15/2009 7:10:00 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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