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Where Have All the Loose Women Gone?
Esquire ^ | 5.7.09 | Stephen Marche

Posted on 07/16/2009 8:57:56 AM PDT by libh8er

The days of Sex and the City's influence are long gone. From Tina Fey's fake prude to Sarah Palin's real power play, here's why strong women just aren't that into having sex with you anymore. Brilliant, funny, and powerful women are retreating from sex as never before, and if you don't believe it, take the curious case of Liz Lemon. The most complicated and intelligent woman in television comedy barely ever has sex. She doesn't sit on laps, either — "not a lap sitter," she tells one handsome date she brings home in the first season. (He turns out to be her cousin.) She admits to losing her virginity at twenty-five and accidentally reveals that she doesn't believe people can have intercourse standing up. Liz Lemon's low libido is one of 30 Rock's running gags, like the writers' obsession with junk food or Jack Donaghy's use of words like "upward-revenue-stream dynamics." When Jenna asks about sex with her beeper-salesman boyfriend, Liz replies, "Fast and only on Saturdays — it's perfect." That line is a dagger in the heart of every thinking heterosexual man in America, and for Liz and the like-minded career women in The Women, He's Just Not That Into You, Sandra Bullock's latest, The Proposal, or just about any other chick flick of late, it's become achingly clear that sex is usually the last thing on their minds.

How did this happen? A mere decade ago, Seinfeld's Elaine Benes was hilarious, smart, familiar with Russian novelists, an aggressive and demanding professional, and a woman who fooled around a lot. The Sex and the City fantasia of fin de siècle Manhattan broke women's desires into separable components — status, career, money — but sooner or later every conversation between the four principals came back to who's doing what with

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1 posted on 07/16/2009 8:57:56 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: libh8er
women are retreating from sex as never before

I have that effect on women.

2 posted on 07/16/2009 8:59:32 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: libh8er

In before the Helen Thomas photos.


3 posted on 07/16/2009 9:02:37 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: libh8er

Difficult when Lord Zero’s ecomomy has mad it hard to afford a decent date anymore......What you don’t like Soda Crackers and Vienna Sausages?? Want a RC Cola and Moon Pie instead?? SLAP!!! LMAO


4 posted on 07/16/2009 9:03:09 AM PDT by jakerobins ( NO)
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To: libh8er

I like this part:

“The teeth are all the same, the noses are all the same (except Diane von Furstenberg’s), the tits are all the same, and no doubt the pudenda are all shaved in the same pattern. “You have to figure out pretty quickly where you fit in,” Whitney tells us in an opening monologue, and for this striver, having a boyfriend and having sex with him are just other socially expected poses.”

parsy, who prefers his guitar to trying to figure out women


5 posted on 07/16/2009 9:05:13 AM PDT by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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To: libh8er

I couldn’t care less what that magazine for politically-correct urban males “Esquire” says about anything. I WAS hoping for some pictures, though. (Just not ones of Helen Thomas).


6 posted on 07/16/2009 9:06:24 AM PDT by jdsteel (CONGRESS: Take it again in twenty ten.)
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To: jdsteel

bttt


7 posted on 07/16/2009 9:06:41 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: libh8er

Odd ... haven’t noticed this at all.


8 posted on 07/16/2009 9:06:55 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Only feces and dead fish go with the flow.)
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To: libh8er
I wonder if the author realizes that the TV characters aren't real. Perhaps the writers just want to do something fresh, and Lord knows that promiscuous sex has jumped the shark about 1000 times.
9 posted on 07/16/2009 9:07:27 AM PDT by SampleMan (Socialism enslaves you & kills your soul.)
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To: libh8er
Where Have All the Loose Women Gone?

Google is your friend.

10 posted on 07/16/2009 9:09:05 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: MrEdd
In before the Helen Thomas photos.

That could be a new standard abbreviation:
IBHTP

11 posted on 07/16/2009 9:09:59 AM PDT by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: libh8er

Or more likely, she’s just not that into you.


12 posted on 07/16/2009 9:11:35 AM PDT by rintense (Senior Marketing / IT / UX architect unemployed and looking for work. Freepmail me if you have leads)
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To: SampleMan

Thank you, I always hate pointing out that the people in the magic box are pretending. Entertainment is a very imperfect reflection of reality.


13 posted on 07/16/2009 9:13:31 AM PDT by stormer
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To: parsifal

LOL Parsy. I feel the same about my gear. Hey, at least my piano never told me it loved me and then screwed my friends.


14 posted on 07/16/2009 9:13:45 AM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: libh8er

they’re probably just building up to an end-of-season-five cliffhanger involving a cruise ship orgy....


15 posted on 07/16/2009 9:13:54 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: libh8er

Whatever happened to just getting to know each other in relationships then using that knowledge to make your partner happy?

From my observations, women’s various components outside of relationship can be filled if she and her husband both work at satisfying each other’s (not just physical) needs. I’ve met successful businesswomen who have successful work lives and successful family lives. They all seem to have good communication with their spouses and they mutually strive to compliment each other in all aspects of life.


16 posted on 07/16/2009 9:14:01 AM PDT by ActrFshr
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To: mbynack
I have that effect on women.

ROFL! We should start a club!

17 posted on 07/16/2009 9:14:10 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim
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To: libh8er

Loose women are easily found—just find a Democrat. Leftwing women are known for being very loose, but that’s all they’re ultimately good for. It was actually consciously used as a leftist recruiting tool as far back as the late 19th century. When you go looking for a good woman to start a family with, find a conservative.


18 posted on 07/16/2009 9:14:53 AM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: mbynack
I have that effect on women.

You think you have it bad? I'm in negotiations with the Pope to help convince more women to become nuns. :-(

19 posted on 07/16/2009 9:15:32 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (As a child Obama was rejected from Little League because of lack of a birth certificate.)
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To: libh8er
Where Have All the Loose Women Gone?

"I asked the cab driver to take me to someplace where I could get some action....he drove me to my house." - Rodney Dangerfield

20 posted on 07/16/2009 9:15:43 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: libh8er

I dunno about “loose,” but Sarah did have five kids and near as I can tell there must have been sex involved in there somewhurs. As far as anxious liberal metrosexuals not gittin’ any, that’s their problem. Stealin’ yer girlfriend’s eye liner and mousse is a relationship-breaker, babalou. Trust me.


21 posted on 07/16/2009 9:16:32 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: libh8er
As to the question, “Where have all the loose women gone?”, they haven't gone anywhere. In fact, they're all going to be a my place this weekend checking out my new deck. We'll have a little barbecue, drink some brews, generally just party.
22 posted on 07/16/2009 9:17:49 AM PDT by stormer
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To: libh8er

I don’t find it to be true.

Maybe it’s a metrosexual thing.


23 posted on 07/16/2009 9:18:53 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: SampleMan
>I wonder if the author realizes that the TV characters aren't real

I have wondered this
a lot in the modern world.
Even serious,

academic books
seem comfortable talking
about fictional

TV people and
movie people and drawing
real life conclusions

from their behavior.
This is the most stupid trend
imaginable!

25 posted on 07/16/2009 9:21:26 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Billthedrill
Stealin’ yer girlfriend’s eye liner and mousse is a relationship-breaker, babalou. Trust me.

I just gotta ask, been there, done that?

26 posted on 07/16/2009 9:21:53 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: dfwgator

“My wife cut me down to once a month. That is nothing. She cut out three other guys all together.” Rodney


27 posted on 07/16/2009 9:22:03 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: snarks_when_bored

lulz, agreed.


28 posted on 07/16/2009 9:24:02 AM PDT by cranked
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To: LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot; parsifal
>parsy, who prefers his guitar to trying to figure out women
>>my piano never told me it loved me and then screwed my friends

I do get jealous
when my guitar teacher plays
my guitar better

than I can muster.
I wonder if my guitar
just puts up with me . . .

29 posted on 07/16/2009 9:25:44 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: MrEdd

You are a pig!


30 posted on 07/16/2009 9:25:58 AM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: rintense

women are retreating from sex as never before

who says? as a 50-something-year-old woman i feel more frisky than ever! just waiting for a guy who appreciates a savvy and passionate conservative as well as a roll in ze hay!


31 posted on 07/16/2009 9:27:09 AM PDT by madmominct ("Liberalism is a slow road to despotism." -- The Great One, Mark Levin)
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“Then she told me a little story about free milk and a cow and said ‘no huggin’, no kissin’ till I get a wedding vow!”

Sisters need to keep their legs together, imo.
After all, what man really wants to marry someone who’s been around the block?


32 posted on 07/16/2009 9:27:19 AM PDT by Bodleian_Girl (This one is free)
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To: libh8er
How did this happen? A mere decade ago, Seinfeld's Elaine Benes was hilarious, smart, familiar with Russian novelists, an aggressive and demanding professional, and a woman who fooled around a lot.

JERRY: Are you saying...
GEORGE: (calls for a waitress) I think I'll have a piece of cake.
JERRY: With me?
ELAINE: Well...
JERRY: You faked with me?
ELAINE: Yeah.
JERRY: You faked with me?
ELAINE: Yeah.
JERRY: No.
ELAINE: Yeah.
JERRY: You faked it?
ELAINE: I faked it.
JERRY: That whole thing, the whole production, it was all an act?
ELAINE: Not bad huh?
JERRY: What about the breathing, the panting, the moaning, the screaming?
ELAINE: Fake, fake, fake, fake.
JERRY: I'm stunned, I'm shocked! How many times did you do this?
ELAINE: Uuuhm, all the time.
JERRY: All the time?!

33 posted on 07/16/2009 9:30:46 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("I always longed for repose and quiet" - John Calvin)
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To: raybbr

bfl


34 posted on 07/16/2009 9:31:15 AM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: libh8er
Palin Family Pictures, Images and Photos

Uhhh, athlete husband, long cold dark nights, I think 5 kids would be sufficient evidence that the author is a moron.

35 posted on 07/16/2009 9:31:40 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: ActrFshr
If a woman is married to a decent guy and gives him plenty of sex, he will do just ab out anything to make sure all her needs are met.

Husbands who are sexually satisfied have happy wives.

36 posted on 07/16/2009 9:33:31 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: theFIRMbss

LOL. Well, I love my B-3 and I’m sure it loves me.


37 posted on 07/16/2009 9:33:34 AM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: 70th Division

My wife, all we do is argue about sex and money, I mean she charges me too much. Rodney (RIP)


38 posted on 07/16/2009 9:34:27 AM PDT by thinkthenpost
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To: libh8er
How about this one?


39 posted on 07/16/2009 9:34:39 AM PDT by Go Gordon
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To: ActrFshr

Totally agree with you...

But lemme tell ya - I’m a reasonably attractive woman living in NYC (don’t really have a choice, both due to my profession and due to my parents health situation)...and if I could find a guy who gave a damn that I’m one of those girls who wants to know, respect, support and love a man as a human being long long long before I’m willing to even think about fooling around with him, I’d be a happy girl.

But that doesn’t really happen in NYC, as there’s a vapid f!ckbunny around every corner willing to put out. So if this Esquire writer - whom I’m willing to bet lives in NYC or LA — can’t find loose women in these towns, it’s either because (1) he’s slept with them all already or (2) he’s the fugliest man alive.

And hey, if any NY single Freepers think I sound interesting, you know where I am...LOL.


40 posted on 07/16/2009 9:35:38 AM PDT by cammie
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To: Just another Joe
I just gotta ask, been there, done that?

Well, I ain't sayin', but I will say that her toenail polish doesn't offset my eyes at all.

41 posted on 07/16/2009 9:35:48 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: libh8er

Ummmm. What makes anyone think that the characters depicted in Hollyweird entertainments bear any relationship to the real world?


42 posted on 07/16/2009 9:36:05 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Obamalama lied, the republic died.)
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To: thinkthenpost
Oh I miss Rodney:

"My wife said she wanted to have sex in the back seat. I said GREAT! She said 'yeah but I want YOU to drive'".

I tell ya ..

43 posted on 07/16/2009 9:36:29 AM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("If you don't have my army supplied, and keep it supplied, we'll eat your mules up, sir"-Gen.Sherman)
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To: thinkthenpost
My wife, all we do is argue about sex and money, I mean she charges me too much. Rodney (RIP)

I was coming home one night and saw a nude jogger. I asked him "Why are naked". He replied "Because you came home early" - Rodney

44 posted on 07/16/2009 9:36:35 AM PDT by Go Gordon
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To: SeaHawkFan

Totally agree with you as well...my cousin has a formula for this, but I don’t think it’s safe for FR publication!


45 posted on 07/16/2009 9:37:12 AM PDT by cammie
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To: LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot

How true. And they only make noise when you want them to. They never interrupt a television show. They don’t blame you for every problem they have ever had in their entire life. They don’t throw tantrums. They may “wail”, but they don’t whine.

parsy, who if not happy, at least isn’t miserable


46 posted on 07/16/2009 9:38:38 AM PDT by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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To: libh8er
women are retreating from sex as never before

Big deal. Marriage has been causing this for centuries.

47 posted on 07/16/2009 9:38:38 AM PDT by OpeEdMunkey (We seem to have reached a critical mass of stupid people.)
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To: Snickering Hound
>Uhhh, ... long cold dark nights...

"Well, we know Palin's
daughters aren't retreating
from sleeping around."

48 posted on 07/16/2009 9:38:39 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: madmominct

As a 50ish guy, I found a woman with a similar attitude. No sex prior to marrige; but after- look out.


49 posted on 07/16/2009 9:39:10 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot; parsifal
Hey, at least my piano never told me it loved me and then screwed my friends.

You know, in my entire life I've never had a gun with a headache or an unfaithful dog.

50 posted on 07/16/2009 9:40:08 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (I remember black skies and lightening all around me. I remember each flash as time began to blur)
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