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Mormon Sisters Share A Husband
Telegraph(UK) ^ | July 19th 2009

Posted on 07/19/2009 5:21:15 PM PDT by Steelfish

Mormon sisters share a husband

While sisters are known for their love of sharing, Mormon siblings Katie and Priscilla Churcher have chosen to share more than most in their choice of husband Travis.

15 Jul 2009

The pair live with their husband and eight children in a large house in Salt Lake City in the American state of Utah and insist they are very happy with their choice.

They have three cars, a big garden, wardrobes full of stylish clothes and a mountain of toys for all their offspring.

"People might think it's weird to share your husband with your sister, but it's not to us," said Katie, 28. "It makes Travis a better husband – he's more patient.

"He's had to learn how to cope with two different women with different personalities, and to remember how to make each of us feel special and loved.

"While he's got to check in with both of us, I've got more freedom to see my friends and there's always someone to help with the childcare." Katie met Travis, an office manager, through her brother and they started dating when she was 17.

Both came from Fundamentalist Mormon families where polygamy was the norm – Katie's father had three wives and Travis's had two.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: katie; mormons; polygamy; travis

1 posted on 07/19/2009 5:21:15 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Right, because marriage is all about seeing one’s friends and having somebody to watch one’s children.


2 posted on 07/19/2009 5:25:00 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Steelfish

This is where the liberal crowd will start supporting the Mormans. When they realize Mormans support the poly lifestyle


3 posted on 07/19/2009 5:25:06 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Steelfish

ok... sisterly love!


4 posted on 07/19/2009 5:25:08 PM PDT by Ancient Drive (will)
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To: Steelfish
Sigh...

If they were members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints, they would have been excommunicated as soon as this became known. I.E., whatever else they are, they are clearly not "Mormons."

5 posted on 07/19/2009 5:25:42 PM PDT by JustTheTruth (Say "NO!" to Socialism in America!)
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To: Steelfish

Wow. I wouldn’t share my sweater with my sister, let alone a husband.


6 posted on 07/19/2009 5:25:44 PM PDT by svcw (Barry: mentally deficient & narcissistic misogynist megalomaniac psychopath w/ paranoid delusions)
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To: Steelfish
Ok, I guess I'm the one who has to post the pictures.




7 posted on 07/19/2009 5:27:27 PM PDT by Jaime2099 (Human Evolution and the God of the Bible are not compatible)
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To: Steelfish

Polygamy sucks for men because of its adverse effect on The Ratio.


8 posted on 07/19/2009 5:28:04 PM PDT by Fingolfin
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To: Steelfish

New twist on

Family trees that don’t branch

We have quite a few here in E. Tenn.
Just a “different variety”


9 posted on 07/19/2009 5:28:18 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: svcw

Do you think its a “religious” thing? like Allah’s four wives and concubines?


10 posted on 07/19/2009 5:28:29 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

That’s double the nagging! :)


11 posted on 07/19/2009 5:30:07 PM PDT by Batman11 (Chicago, Land of Lincoln who freed the slaves and Land of Obama who enslaved the free.)
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To: Travis McGee
>While sisters are known for their love of sharing, Mormon siblings Katie and Priscilla Churcher have chosen to share more than most in their choice of husband Travis

Wow, now we can see
why you're on edge all the time...
Two wives would do it!

12 posted on 07/19/2009 5:30:08 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Steelfish

Lee Marvin and Clint Eastwood did it first


13 posted on 07/19/2009 5:30:17 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Steelfish

While I disagree completely with polygamy, I do question how a government that endorses “marriage” between two people of the same gender could turn around and tell someone they can’t have two wives...

But heh... who am I?


14 posted on 07/19/2009 5:32:39 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: Steelfish
Who frigging cares. Having two wives at the same time is its own punishment.
15 posted on 07/19/2009 5:34:40 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Steelfish

Any man with any common sense would have figured out there are WAY more negatives than positives having two wives versus one.

Some men have even figured it out that no wife has a lot of advantages as well. Sometimes a little after the fact.


16 posted on 07/19/2009 5:36:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Steelfish
This sounds like a bad plot from some porn movie.....

I can't speak for sisters, but I'll be damned if I share my girl with my brothers. That just ain't gonna happen.

17 posted on 07/19/2009 5:37:08 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (We do what we have to do.)
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To: Jaime2099

Should save on the heating bill during the winter.


18 posted on 07/19/2009 5:38:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("A new Dark Ages made all the more terrible and prolonged by the sinister powers of science.")
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To: Lurker

Any man who gets married a second time deserves his first wife.


19 posted on 07/19/2009 5:38:28 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Jaime2099

PLEASE, do NOT enlarge that picture.


20 posted on 07/19/2009 5:44:19 PM PDT by taillightchaser (When a democrat says "The American people" you know the next words out of his mouth will be lies.)
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To: Steelfish

This is from a Catholic. Me that is.

Just because you call yourself Mormon does not make you Mormon. The LDS church has come down squarely on the side of monogamy. These women are as much Mormon as those female “priests” are Catholic.


21 posted on 07/19/2009 5:47:52 PM PDT by Andyman (The truth shall make you FReep.)
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To: Steelfish

Are the kids cousins or half siblings or ? confusing.


22 posted on 07/19/2009 6:00:09 PM PDT by culpeper ( When traitors are called heroes, dark times have fallen - Roland Deschain)
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To: JustTheTruth
You know I find it rather absurd that the USA built upon religious freedom demanded that Utah to become a state had to alter their religious convictions. I'd of said stick it we will remain a territory.
23 posted on 07/19/2009 6:01:23 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953
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To: JustTheTruth; greyfoxx39

um - actually, they are practicing orthodox mormonism - it is the LDS that have stepped away from the old ways


24 posted on 07/19/2009 6:11:58 PM PDT by Revelation 911 (How many 100's of 1000's of our servicemen died so we would never bow to a king?" -freeper pnh102)
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To: svcw
Both came from Fundamentalist Mormon families where polygamy was the norm – Katie's father had three wives and Travis's had two.

"Having been brought up that way, we were both open to being in a polygamist relationship and we discussed Travis having lots of wives early on," said Katie.

....

Priscilla was shocked to be asked, but eventually agreed to go out for dinner with Travis while Katie babysat the children.

"It was weird at first," said Priscilla, now 24. "Because he was married to my sister I tried not to let myself get too close, but I could see he was compassionate husband and a great dad and I wanted that too."

I don't get the shock here - that's how they grew up.

25 posted on 07/19/2009 6:17:20 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: taillightchaser; Jaime2099

I second.


26 posted on 07/19/2009 6:33:46 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: Steelfish
Gee, Orin Hatch, I could have sworn polygamy was ILLEGAL?

What's going on?

27 posted on 07/19/2009 6:41:06 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: heartwood

I don’t have an answer, except they believe in God, work , generally behave themselves, So? We have MUCH worse running our country.


28 posted on 07/19/2009 6:43:32 PM PDT by Quickgun
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To: Jaime2099

Guilty and Guilty


29 posted on 07/19/2009 6:44:41 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: Andyman

I’m sure that LDS is as thrilled about FLDS as I am about Neturei Karta.


30 posted on 07/19/2009 9:11:26 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Crazy is the new sane.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Good mormons living the principle..


31 posted on 07/28/2009 4:00:27 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Steelfish; All

I was married for 5 years to a woman who was two people. Saves on clothes but that it. I learned to despise both of them.


32 posted on 07/28/2009 4:07:25 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Tennessee Nana
Excerpt from the Salt Lake Tribune

Link

SPECIAL REPORT  
 
   
 
Early 1830s
LDS Church founder espouses polygamy

Joseph Smith, founder of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, shares the principle of polygamy with an inner circle of church leaders.

1843
Smith discloses the principle of celestial marriage.

1846
Some Mormons relocate to Mexico to escape persecution for polygamy, settling in Corralitos, Chihuahua.

1852
LDS Church Apostle Orson Pratt gives a two-hour sermon on
plural marriage during conference. It is described as ”one of the best doctrines ever proclaimed to any people.”

1856
Brigham Young tells Mormon women who complain about polygamy that they have two weeks to “make up their minds whether they would stay with their husbands or be liberated at the General Conference.”1862
The first federal law is passed outlawing polygamy.

 

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1875
Women seek law’s repeal

A petition signed by 22,626 women in Utah asks Congress to repeal the anti-polygamy law of 1862.

1879
The U.S. Supreme Court upholds a guilty verdict in Utah territorial court against polygamist George Reynolds, Brigham Young's personal secretary. The case was meant as a challenge to federal anti-polygamy laws.

1885
Polygamists flee to Juarez, Mexico, and Alberta, Canada.

John Taylor

1886
LDS President John Taylor is allegedly visited by Joseph Smith and Jesus Christ, who confirmed to him the righteousness of polygamy. Fundamentalists say Taylor asked five men to ensure the practice lives on.

1887
Edmunds-Tucker Act reiterates U.S. ban on polygamy with stiffer penalties.

1890
Contrary to the laws of the land

As Utah vies for statehood, LDS Church leader Wilford Woodruff issues "Official Declaration" suspending the practice of polygamy because it is contrary to the laws of the land


1904
LDS president issues polygamist warning

LDS President Joseph F. Smith's “Second Manifesto” states that any person solemnizing or entering a plural marriage will be excommunicated.

1911
J.M. Lauritzen, a non-polygamist, settles the Short Creek area near the Utah border in Arizona.

1912
Lorin C. Woolley, in a story told about a meeting with Taylor in the Woolley home, confirms LDS president’s account of a vision.

Heber J. Grant

1921
LDS Church President Heber J. Grant, a one-time polygamist, reiterates that no man has the right to perform plural marriages.

In spite of the "manifesto"

On 24 September 1890, President Wilford Woodruff issued his famous Manifesto which stated in part, ". . . and I deny that either forty or any other number of plural marriages have during the period [since June 1889] been solemnized in our temples or in any other place in the Territory," and concluded, "And I now publicly declare that my advice to the Latter-day Saints is to refrain from contracting any marriage forbidden by the law of the land." The Church-owned Deseret Evening News editorialized on 30 September: "Anyone who calls the language of President Woodruff's declaration 'indefinite' must be either exceedingly dense or determined to find fault. It is so definite that its meaning cannot be mistaken by any one who understands simple English." On 3 October it added, "Nothing could he more direct and unambiguous than the language of President Woodruff, nor could anything be more authoritative." A few days after this last editorial, the Church authorities presented this 'unambiguous' document for a sustaining vote of the general conference. Yet during the next thirteen and a half years, members of the First Presidency individually or as a unit published twenty-four denials that any new plural marriages were being performed. The climax of that series of little manifestoes was the "Second Manifesto" on plural marriage sustained by a vote of a general conference. President Joseph F. Smith's statement of 6 April 1904, read in part:

Inasmuch as there are numerous reports in circulation that plural marriages have been entered into contrary to the official declaration of President Woodruff, of September 24, 1890, commonly called the Manifesto . . . I, Joseph F. Smith, President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, hereby affirm and declare that no such marriages have been solemnized with the sanction, consent or knowledge of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Polygamous marriages continued to be performed by various church authorities:

Mormon Polygamy Denied

How many new plural marriages were performed between 1890 and 1904? The anti-Mormon Salt Lake Tribune estimated in 1910 that there were "about two thousand," which was echoed by the schismatic Mormon Fundamentalists forty years later.27 On the other hand, until recently, the official and semiofficial publications of the Church simply rephrased the First Presidency 1907 statement that there were "few" new plural marriage from 1890 to 1904.28 Historians Arrington and Bitton increased that estimate based on reasearch done in 1983 by lawyer-historian Kenneth L. Cannon II who created an annual statistical chart of 150 polygamous marriages from 1890 to 1904 which apparently caused a dramatic shift in the official presentation of numbers.29 In 1984 it was restated that "a comparatively large number of polygamous marriages had been performed after the Manifesto."30

And finally, to what extent were new plural marriages performed from 1890 to 1904 with Church authority? Aside from denials of the First Presidency already cited, the Deseret Evening News editorialized in 1911, "There is absolutely no truth in the allegation that plural marriages have been entered into with [the] sanction of the Church since the manifesto."31 Apostle John A. Widtsoe wrote in 1936, "Since that day [6 October 1890] no plural marriage has been performed with the sanction or authority of the Church," BYU historian Gustive O. Larson wrote in 1958 that "While Presidents Woodruff, Snow, and Smith maintained monogamous integrity of the Church, plural marriages were being performed secretly by two members of the Apostles’ Quorum," Counselor Stephen L Richards wrote in 1961, "Since that time [1890], entering into plural marriage has been construed to be an offense against the laws of the Church," Apostle Gordon B. Hinckley wrote in 1969, "Since that time [September 1890] the Church has neither practiced nor sanctioned such marriage," Apostle Mark E. Petersen wrote in 1974 that "the Manifesto put an end to all legal plural marriages," historians Allen and Leonard wrote in 1976 that the performance of new plural marriages outside of Utah from 1890 to 1904 "was without official sanction from the First Presidency," and historians Arrington and Bitton reaffirmed in 1979 that these plural marriages were "without the sanction of church authority."32 Significantly, the schismatic Mormon polygamists accept at face value all of these statements, and use them in connection with evidence of the performance of new plural marriages after 1890 as an argument justifying the continued performance of polygamy to the present:

By this action of President John Taylor [in 1886], which it must be assumed was taken in accordance with instructions from the Lord, additional machinery for the continuance of the Celestial order of marriage was set up.... It had been entered into by members of the Priesthood wholly apart and independent of the Church.... It was under this authority conferred under the hands of John Taylor that Anthony W. Ivins exercised the sealing powers in Mexico, after the Church adopted the Manifesto. It was by this authority that John Henry Smith, John W. Taylor, Abraham Owen Woodruff and others joined people in the Patriarchal order of marriage after the issuance of the Manifesto; and it was by the same authority that Abraham H. Cannon, a member of the quorum of the Twelve, entered into Plural marriage, after the Manifesto. The Church neither approved nor disapproved these several actions.33
With due respect to the sincerity of all the above interpretations and assertions about post-Manifesto plural marriages, none of them accurately describes the situation as it existed in the past and is revealed in available documents. Even detailed and scholarly studies of new plural marriages from 1890 to 1904 provide important insights at the same time they repeat inaccuracies of fact and misconceptions of the complexity involved in the subject.34 Contrary to the confident Deseret News editorials of 1890, the Manifesto inherited ambiguity, was created in ambiguity, and produced ambiguity

The current polygamists practicing polygamy as instituted by the early day mormon church may have been excommunicated from the Salt Lake church, but the tradition and "principle" come directly from founder Joseph Smith.

33 posted on 07/28/2009 7:28:57 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (There is no justice at the Dept. of Justice when Black Panthers are cleared for terrorizing voters.)
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To: Steelfish

Close to that, yes.

The false prophet Muhammad had 23 wives, IIRC.


34 posted on 08/17/2009 5:49:45 PM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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