Natural Born Criteria

Vanity

[MissTickly]

Consider this thought:

If we can get the folks in Hawaii to say that they determine ‘a person’ is a Natural Born Citizen in part by looking at BOTH parents citizenship, we know Obama lied about who his real father is. Or was mistaken.

Interesting and not impossible to have them answer that question as long as it is phrased like this:

“How does the department determine a person is a Natural-Born American Citizen? What criteria does the Director use to determine that status?”

You cannot refer to Obama, at all, when you ask the question. That would violate statute so they couldn't answer.

I implore people to try to get this answer from Janice Okubo.

If he lied about his father or was mistaken, the name on the ballots in all 50 states may not be his REAL NAME. And of course it would mean lots of other things, too.

[FTJM]

Someone needs to file a class action suit against the state claiming widespread birth certificate fraud and subpoena all birth certificates for the last 50 years.

[MissTickly]

Another way to ask is this:

Ms. Okubo-

Does the Director use the following criteria in order to verify whether a person whose record she has statutory authority over, satisfies the requirements to be a Natural-Born American Citizen?

—BOTH parents must be an American Citizen.
—Person was born in Hawaii or the U.S.

[MissTickly]

Who do you work for FTJM? Obama? One of his paid bloggers?

Go away.

[rawcatslyentist]

Is filing for and receiving fraudulent foreign student loans, a high crime, or a misdemeanor?

Not if you ARE A FOREIGNER!

INDONESIAN GO HOME

[piasa]

Who do you work for?

I implore people to try to get this answer from Janice Okubo.

Did you run out of stamps?

[MissTickly]

NOPE. I’ve been using email.

[Spaulding]

Good for you MissTickly. I am concerned that so many Freepers don't understand what you obviously do, that to be natural born, both parents must be citizens. As more people understand, the questions will change. I've heard so many people mis-state the definition that I simply assumed Ms. Okubo took her’s from the state-run media, or from Florida Congressman Posey, who sponsored a bill to ask for birth certificates, but who doesn't understand the requirement of citizen parents. I'm being sarcastic. She was probably fed her statement by an Obama supporting attorney. As usual, there is lots of money at stake in this massive con job, and many lawyers expect to do much better under a pay-to-play administration.

I suspect the point is avoided because the exasperating hidden documents don't require anyone to think or read. Since there is something being hidden, that must be the problem! I have been informed by several on FR, and by Leo Donofrio and Mario Apuzzo (interesting that two patriotic attorneys are Italian); original sources, Vattel’s Law of Nations and USSC 12, The Venus, are on line.

[FTJM]

WTF? That makes no sense at all.

[SteveH]

From

http://hawaii.gov/health/about/admin/communicationsoffice.html

here is Ms. Okubo's official public email and other public contact information:

Janice Okubo
Phone:(808) 586-4442,
Fax:(808) 586-4444
1250 Punchbowl Street Room 326
Honolulu, HI 96813
E-mail: janice.okubo@doh.hawaii.gov

[MissTickly]

What makes no sense? Trying to obfuscate? Is your boss mad we’ve figured this out?

[MissTickly]

Thanks, I don’t have the stomach for posting email addresses. That said, I don’t care that you have the stomach for it!

[Arthur McGowan]

I doubt that any state HAS or USES a definition of “natural-born citizen” in its law. For instance, does any state in the union require “natural-born citizenship” to be elected governor?

We know California does not! Does ANY state?

[MissTickly]

Well then we need to find that out, too.

[FTJM]

Are you insane?

I posted this:

"Someone needs to file a class action suit against the state claiming widespread birth certificate fraud and subpoena all birth certificates for the last 50 years."

And that somehow means I work for Obama? Wow.

[MissTickly]

And BTW, by Obama’s OWN admission, Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was a Kenyan/British citizen.

THAT’S why my statement above makes PERFECT sense.

[MissTickly]

If you didn’t intend to be mocking, I apologize. I must have totally misunderstood your first comment!

[FTJM]

Yes, I know that.

Again, how does my comment suggest that I work Obama of all people?

[FTJM]

Of course I wasn't mocking. I was being serious. Someone needs to file a class action suit in Hawaii claiming fraud and subpoena all of the relevant certificates so that Obama's is captured in the suit. Anything to get the damn thing released.

I've also suggested a suit claiming fund raising fraud against Kapiolani Hospital. And one in California using jack Ryan's custody records release as a precedent, among others.

[MissTickly]

Oh good Lord, I am sorry then!