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To: thefactor

Yes, I agree the old guy was incited to rage by the officer’s disrespect and he did have a cane and the officer used that as the reason to tase the old man. He took the chance of killing the old guy in the name of him being “armed’ with a cane. Life of the enemy is cheap when one is at war.

It would have been easy to “disarm” him of his cane. What in the world did the officers do before tasers when faced with an angry oldster with a cane??? They disarmed him. You call it “hand to hand combat”...that is ratcheting up the language to that of a soldier don’t you think? And no doubt if that officer had not had his taser he probably would have hand to hand combated the guy to death in the name of that cane.

That is the problem, you know. The cops are being trained to look at citizens as enemies and themselves as soldiers in a homeland war against terror. They are overreacting because we are not at war and citizens are not the enemy. They are being trained to act in this way. Some go for it! Others have a large dose of humanity and respect for citzens.

So, no I did not overlook the detail that the eldery guy had a cane. I just don’t buy the excuse that it justifed the officer’s extreme force. I think things are out of hand and we have to push back now to get police training and goals back in line with a constitution rather than a police state at war with citizens.

Would you be fine with your 94 year old great uncle being severely harmed because he was angry while “armed” with a cane? Nursing home employees don’t tase the eldery nor enter into hand to hand combat with their residents and they deal with this all the time.


16 posted on 08/04/2009 8:35:00 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson
coupla things:

i did not say hand-to-hand combat. i said 'hand-to-cane' combat.

even though i cannot see the video, please describe how this man was 'severely harmed' as you put it. from my experiences, everyone who has been tased in my presence has been upright, talking, and lucid within 10 minutes.

before tasers, this guy most likely would have been mased or hit with a nightstick. the effects of both of those levels of force leave longer lasting and more painful effects than tasing.

could these guys have simply 'disarmed' this guy as you said? i don't know. i wasn't there. but neither was anyone else on this thread.

when given the choice to support a police officer or an an angry man with a cane, i'll support the cop off the bat until i see evidnece to the contrary.

17 posted on 08/04/2009 9:17:38 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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