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Chode ^ | 8/5/2009 | Chode

Posted on 08/05/2009 7:57:45 PM PDT by Chode

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To: Chode

Looks like F1 is returning to a grid of manufacturers whose #1 passion is racing, not using F1 as a means to promote and sell mass produced automobiles.
Privateers, the true spirit of auto-racing are back in bigger numbers as well.
Its sad the economic events that triggered such a thing, but I still like what it means for F1s future.


151 posted on 11/07/2009 4:35:46 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.")
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
yup... the manufactures beat the works. look out next year
152 posted on 11/07/2009 6:17:24 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode; Betis70; bobby.223; brf1; cld51860; Cowboy Bob; Daffynition; darthxenu; devane617; ...
OK... it's not F1, but ya gotta watch it to believe it. CarTricks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpTiGAgqUd4&NR=1&feature=fvwp

153 posted on 11/07/2009 7:48:00 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode

Does Toyota leaving make room for BMW/Sauber to get back in?


154 posted on 11/07/2009 11:54:08 AM PST by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker
i guess there's room... but is there enough time and money to get it up and running by deadline?
155 posted on 11/07/2009 1:00:10 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode; Betis70; bobby.223; brf1; cld51860; Cowboy Bob; Daffynition; darthxenu; devane617; ...
more F1 gossip...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8352528.stm

156 posted on 11/10/2009 7:29:40 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: All
Just a quick Q to all you F1 fans out there: Anyone play RACE 07? I've had it for two years but never really played it. Now I'm in a group, but they don't particularly care for the F3000s (the old feeder series to F1, like Indycar Lights is to Indycar), and barely tolerate the Formula BMW's. I'm looking for some people who want to run the F3000's on a regular basis, and only occasionally run the WTCCs, Mini-Coopers, etc.
Also, I'll soon be moving to RACE ON with the IFM's, so if you have that, let me know what you think of them compared to the F3k.

Thanks!

157 posted on 11/11/2009 10:51:28 AM PST by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, hey-hey, ho-ho!)
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To: Chode; Betis70; bobby.223; brf1; cld51860; Cowboy Bob; Daffynition; darthxenu; devane617; ...
more gossip...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8354490.stm

158 posted on 11/11/2009 2:43:07 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: jeffc
i know not of this Race-07 which you speak but i will look into it.

it requires a wheel and peddles etc. yes?

iirc McLaren produced steering sets at one time but i didn't have a machine with the required headroom or horsepower let alone bandwidth for what was required... i think i might look into it again

thx

159 posted on 11/13/2009 3:08:24 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode
http://www.race-game.org/race07/index.php
160 posted on 11/13/2009 3:13:40 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode; Betis70; bobby.223; brf1; cld51860; Cowboy Bob; Daffynition; darthxenu; devane617; ...
more F1 gossip...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8358498.stm

161 posted on 11/13/2009 6:29:35 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode
pile up in the rain 22sec... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKjvczULeZg
162 posted on 11/14/2009 10:35:32 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode
on/off... if you want on or off the f1 list, mash here to get added/removed
163 posted on 11/14/2009 10:42:36 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode; Betis70; bobby.223; brf1; cld51860; Cowboy Bob; Daffynition; darthxenu; devane617; ...
vanity, but great video i just found... 1967 Grand Prix - Watkins Glen

67 GP @ Watkins Glen

164 posted on 11/14/2009 11:12:08 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode
Sadness in Formula 1

Tribute to the Fallen

165 posted on 11/14/2009 11:15:04 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode
Sadness in Formula 1 Part 2 Part 2... just damn.
166 posted on 11/14/2009 11:40:45 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode
thanks for the videos

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167 posted on 11/14/2009 11:41:40 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Chode
somebodies home video of the 69 USGP...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABaS-MqZny8

168 posted on 11/14/2009 2:49:13 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode
US GRAND PRIX 1980

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUhkp0DSsUY&feature=related

169 posted on 11/14/2009 3:01:12 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode
my bad, the last one was practice, this is the last US Grand Prix race at the Glen in 1980

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwUV2DCDprk&feature=related

170 posted on 11/14/2009 3:10:24 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode

Please remove me from the list. Thanks !


171 posted on 11/15/2009 7:31:37 PM PST by kingpins10
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To: kingpins10
done...
172 posted on 11/15/2009 7:36:46 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode

Mercedes-Benz has confirmed their take-over of Brawn GP but refused to comment on Mercedes GP’s driver line-up.

http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5698430,00.html

Looks like the Mercedes F1 drivers will be Rosberg and Heidfeld.


173 posted on 11/16/2009 5:29:31 AM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth...)
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To: Leo Farnsworth
whoooooooa... i wonder if they are going to make the engines or some incarnation of IllMore going to produce them?
174 posted on 11/16/2009 2:44:10 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode
strike that, don't what i was thinking, they will of course.
175 posted on 11/16/2009 3:18:43 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode; All

chode- ping the list please....

not sure what to make of this- I’m not a big Button guy but Nico Williams & Nick Heidfeld at Braun < Jensen Button....

‘Button agrees three-year McLaren contract’
Tuesday 17th November 2009

Jenson Button has reportedly agreed a three-year contract with McLaren that will see the reigning World Champion earn £6m per year.

According to the Guardian, Button ‘has agreed terms to join McLaren on a £6m-a-year deal and could sign his formal three-year contract to partner Lewis Hamilton in an all-British line-up within the next few days.

‘The Guardian understands that the World Champion has turned his back on Brawn following protracted negotiations and will almost double his salary with the Woking-based team. ‘

‘For Button the prospect of going head-to-head with a close friend and the man regarded by many in the pit lane as possibly the fastest of all will just be part of the challenge of defending his title.’

And although current McLaren driver Lewis Hamilton has said he would welcome Button, the newspaper was quick to point out that McLaren would not have given the 2008 Champ a say in the matter.

‘It is unlikely either Hamilton, who earns about £12m a year at McLaren, or his father Anthony, who has managed the 2008 World Champion since his days as a teenage kart racer, will have been consulted on this beyond the normal deployment of good manners,’ claimed the report.

‘McLaren have always had the resources and philosophy required to field two fully competitive cars and have always sought the strongest possible driver line-ups they could engage.’

Button’s reported signing comes just hours after Mercedes let go of their 40 percent stake in McLaren in favour of a take-over at Brawn GP, prompting speculation that the team would take on an all-German line-up, leaving Button out in the cold.

However, Mercedes motorsport boss Norbert Haug was quick to downplay the rumours.

“I read some speculation and I understand this because we could not give this information earlier. But this will be an international team for Mercedes-Benz is a global player,” he said.

“We want to have the best ones and we definitely do not want to have the pure German team - it’s an international Silver Arrows team and we want to have the best drivers in the car.”

Haug’s comments were followed by Mercedes GP chief executive Nick Fry stating that the team is still keen to hold onto Button, although not at any price.

“I hope Jenson is still with us next season,” Fry told the BBC. “We’ve been together for a good few years now and we have succeeded in winning the World Championship together and we want Jenson to be with us.”

But despite the statements by both Haug and Fry, the Daily Mail claims that ‘an exasperated source close to Button dismissed the comments as ‘lip service.’

The newspaper also says that ‘Button is expected to sign for McLaren before the end of the week rather than risk ending up without a team after Mercedes’ buy-out of Brawn yesterday pushed him closer to the exit door.”

http://planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5699508,00.html


176 posted on 11/17/2009 9:30:03 AM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Chode; Betis70; bobby.223; brf1; cld51860; Cowboy Bob; Daffynition; darthxenu; devane617; ...
ping...
177 posted on 11/17/2009 2:41:00 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: God luvs America

It wasn’t a coincidence that the only Japanese drivers in F1 were for two Japanese manufacturers. I’m sure if Ford or Gov Motors were in F1, they’d be pushing for an American driver.

Rosberg and Heidfeld hold the correct passports. And now McClaren, based in England, has the all-Brit driver tandem.

The Euros talk the ‘multi-cultural’ game, but they are just as nationalistic as ever, esp in sports.


178 posted on 11/18/2009 5:59:41 AM PST by Betis70 (Never Forget)
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Hamilton challenge excites Button

Formula 1 world champion Jenson Button said the prospect of going head-to-head with former champion Lewis Hamilton was what lured him to McLaren.

Button left the Brawn team, now owned by Mercedes, to join the 2008 champion Hamilton at McLaren earlier this week.

"I thought the challenge of going up against Lewis in his environment would be exciting," he told BBC Radio 5 live.

"I'm earning less than I would have at Brawn, so it's not for money - everyone involved knows that's the case."

The pairing of Button and Hamilton at McLaren makes them the first team to have two British world champions since Graham Hill and Jim Clark were together at Lotus in 1968.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8369244.stm

and Kimi is taking the $17million from Ferrari to take a vacation...

179 posted on 11/19/2009 3:28:39 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode

So what’s the deal with Button & Mercedes? Brawn traded him to McLaren for motors? I know it wasn’t done that way but it looks like it. I like Button but will like him less in a silver car.


180 posted on 11/19/2009 5:32:35 PM PST by henkster (0bamanomics: The "Final Solution" to America's "Prosperity Question.")
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i guess he was out one way or another at Brawn but an all Brit lineup could be historic if the car performs
181 posted on 11/19/2009 6:04:54 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode
Michael Schumacher has reportedly held ‘preliminary talks’ with Mercedes GP that could see him make a comeback next season.

http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5706009,00.html

Might be interesting. He has some history will Ross Brawn...

182 posted on 11/20/2009 6:44:34 AM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth...)
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To: Leo Farnsworth
an all German lineup vs an all British lineup... could be an historic year ahead
183 posted on 11/20/2009 6:31:18 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Leo Farnsworth
looks like Brawn is none to happy wi the world champion...

Brawn GP will not allow World Champion Jenson Button to be involved in any team activities for McLaren before the end of the year.

Brawn chief executive Nick Fry said they would view any such activities "very dimly", while also hinting he felt Button, who sealed his move to McLaren earlier this week, had been disloyal.

"Jenson will not be doing anything at all for McLaren until the end of this calendar year," said Fry in The Guardian. "And if he does, we will be looking on it very dimly.

http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5705913,00.html

184 posted on 11/20/2009 6:38:03 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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F1 gossip... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8378258.stm
185 posted on 11/25/2009 7:42:51 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode
thank you for the fix

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186 posted on 11/25/2009 10:05:30 PM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Elle Bee
Bitte...
187 posted on 11/26/2009 5:51:26 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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Former Formula 1 champion Kimi Raikkonen has agreed to race for Citroen's junior team in the 2010 World Rally Championship.

The 30-year-old, who left Ferrari a year early at the end of the 2009 season, will compete in 12 of the 13 events for the Red Bull-backed team.

"This is a new but very exciting challenge," said the Finn, who won the 2007 F1 drivers' title with Ferrari.

"We have a one-year contract and we will see how it goes for the future."

The one-year deal keeps alive the chances of Raikkonen returning to F1 in 2011.

After being replaced by Fernando Alonso at Ferrari, he entered negotiations with former team McLaren but failed to agree financial terms.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8394585.stm

British GP saga close to conclusion

The saga of the future of the British Grand Prix continues to drag on - but all the indications are that Silverstone is inching towards concluding a deal with Formula 1 boss Bernie Ecclestone.

I heard whispers earlier this week that a deal had actually been done, if not yet signed. But Damon Hill - the president of the British Racing Drivers' Club which owns Silverstone - tells me that is not yet the case.

Hill says there is "no reason to think it won't be signed" but long experience of working with Ecclestone has taught him not to presume anything will happen before it actually does.

"It would be almost inconceivable for there not to be a British Grand Prix next year," Hill said on Thursday, "but until it is signed, there is always the possibility that will be the case."

There is no doubt that both the BRDC and Ecclestone's F1 Management (FOM) company are keen to sort it out and secure the race's future in the wake of the fiasco over Donington Park's failure to raise the funds needed to fulfil its contract to host the race.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewbenson/2009/12/british_gp_saga_inching_toward.html

188 posted on 12/04/2009 3:18:02 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode
one of my favorite toys back around '72 I had a Peacock Blue automatic Citroen SM

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189 posted on 12/04/2009 3:40:40 PM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Elle Bee
dude... in highschool my friends Dad(who raced in some of the first races through town) SOLD them!!!

he even took us a few laps around the Glen in a 1972-SM, 150mph+

did you won one???

190 posted on 12/04/2009 4:04:50 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode
two actually

A white 5 speed and a Peacock Blue automatic

Great car

The front wheels are a tire (Michelin SWS) width wider than the rear so it stops in a straight line and would actually ride on three tires because of the hydraulic suspension ... though don't try and fast corners

I picked up the Blue one in Port Everglades and shortly thereafter came up upon and passed a FL Stater Trooper while he was pulling over an other speeder on a big curve on the highway

He waved off the other car and came for me and I pulled over and waited.

As he approached the car I released the hydraulics dropping the car down almost on the tires

I handed him my export registration and a Florida license

He said, "Didn't you see me pulling that other car over?" Though not usually prone to profanity the trooper asked, "What the f____ is this?"

I explained that I had just picked it up at the port and this was my first drive on this side of the puddle

He handed me back my fist full of paper work and told me he never wanted to see me on his highway again.

I thanked him sincerely started the car and raised the car back to the second level he just stared at me with his hands on his hips as I pulled away

It's a great car and if I thought someone could keep one on the road I'd have one today

Aviation grade aluminum and the smoothest ride on the road

Bob Cressman of Cressman Ferrari in Hollywood?? took good care of them and was far better than the dealer (who also sold VW's in Lauderdale) an SM will hold its own with any car today, either standing still or with the Maserati W-6 screaming

191 posted on 12/04/2009 4:53:21 PM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Chode

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192 posted on 12/04/2009 5:31:49 PM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Elle Bee
The front wheels are a tire (Michelin SWS) width wider than the rear so it stops in a straight line and would actually ride on three tires because of the hydraulic suspension ... though don't try and fast corners

They were Michelin XWX tires

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193 posted on 12/04/2009 5:34:03 PM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Elle Bee

Then you might appreciate this NSU Ro 80, built 1967-1977 with a Wankel Rotary engine. Voted European Car of the Year.

This preceded Mazda’s use of the Wankel, if I recall correctly.

NSU of course was absorbed into Audi, but was a separate company at the time of this car.

http://www.motorbase.com/vehicle/by-id/890/

http://www.cartype.com/pages/3814/nsu_ro_80__1967


194 posted on 12/04/2009 6:22:14 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Elle Bee
Outstanding...!!! wonderful car. iirc he paid like $18000

somebody left it up one night and it blew a seal...

195 posted on 12/04/2009 6:30:32 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: truth_seeker
looks a little Peugeot and a little Studebaker Avanti in the rear

the Wankel is still a great concept

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196 posted on 12/04/2009 8:15:47 PM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Chode
I think I paid in the area of $14K in France then brought them in as used vehicles there was a healthy tax break

I can remember taking it in for new hydraulic$ (the valves and seals in the spheres and a dose of nitrogen) and a pricey tire change at the Importer in Englewood (or Cliffside ? or Englewood Cliffs??) NJ .... met Francis Ford Coppola there also waiting for a fix on his ... very pleasent man

197 posted on 12/04/2009 8:28:09 PM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Elle Bee
old Lester was certified to work on Citroen / Ferrari / Lamborghini / Maserati / Lotus / DeTomasso / MG/Morgan/Triumph/Austin's, you name it... and people came here from miles around as he was the closest certifiedwrench.
198 posted on 12/04/2009 8:41:19 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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Sauber's 2010 championship entry secured

The FIA confirmed on Thursday that BMW Sauber have been granted a slot on the 2010 grid - taking the place of the departing Toyota team - subject to them signing the Concorde Agreement that governs Formula One racing.

BMW announced earlier this year it was withdrawing from the sport at the end of 2009 and last week sold the team back to original founder Peter Sauber, having abandoned previous plans for it to be purchased by investment group Qadbak.

Throughout the sale process the team has had no confirmed entry for 2010, the 13th - and final - slot for next season having been awarded to the new Lotus team. But now, after Toyota's exit and months of uncertainty, the future of the Swiss squad, who made their F1 debut in 1993, looks assured.

A statement released by the FIA said: “The FIA has written to inform BMW Sauber AG that their application for an entry in the 2010 FIA Formula One World Championship has been successful. Subject to their signing the Concorde Agreement, BMW Sauber will be awarded the 13th entry in the Championship, taking the place of the departing Toyota team.

199 posted on 12/05/2009 10:17:01 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Chode; All

still no news on drivers for USF1


200 posted on 12/05/2009 10:18:32 AM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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