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I was sure this had been posted before, but couldn't find it. Seems to have been written during the Clinton administration. It needs to be re-read form time-to-time.
1 posted on 08/10/2009 3:48:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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WOLVERINES!


2 posted on 08/10/2009 3:51:25 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( I hate all politicians. Including republicans.)
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Why do you think they have been trying to socially reform the military with gays in the military and women in combat? They know that if it comes to the thin red line between soldiers defending liberty and the constitution and killing and imprisoning fellow citizens the soldiers will stand with the citizen.


3 posted on 08/10/2009 3:51:55 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Why are those who claim to have open minds so afraid of open debate?)
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This story pops up from time to time, always a nice refreshing read.


4 posted on 08/10/2009 3:53:11 PM PDT by jblann1
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A well-timed review. Study carefully; there may be a test later.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

5 posted on 08/10/2009 3:55:57 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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A ragtag bunch of yahoos in Iraq sure did give our military an awful lot of trouble. Of course, they wouldn’t be as nice to us, but I’m sure we could cause them some pain.

But the military would be on our side. It’s Obama’s ‘civilian military force’ that we’d have to contend with.


8 posted on 08/10/2009 4:01:35 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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It took 130,000 of the best troops in the world to control over 12 million people of which 15% were “insurgents”. Four “insurgents” with crude weapons could tie up 150 Marines for most of a day.
9 posted on 08/10/2009 4:04:54 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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BTTT


11 posted on 08/10/2009 4:06:07 PM PDT by hattend (Sarah Palin's minion - The Bush years divided us but Obama has united us all into an angry mob.)
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I enjoyed reading that, thank you! In a deteriorated situation, things break down into predators, prey and warriors. A warrior is someone who will not let themselves or those they protect be the victims. A warrior arms themselves with faith, intelligence, character and the biggest honking weapon they can snag.


13 posted on 08/10/2009 4:08:33 PM PDT by dog breath
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The Jews in the Warsaw ghetto held off the the entire mechanized Nazi machine for two weeks with paultry numbers of handguns, molotov cocktails, and whatever they could scrape together.


14 posted on 08/10/2009 4:09:07 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon it adds up to real money. - Senator Everett Dirksen

There are approximately 836,000 law enforcement officers in the United States (Dept. of Justice). There are approximately 1.4 million active duty military personnel. The FBI estimates the number of privately-held firearms in the United States at 200 million. That's why "your gun versus an army" is not a particularly plausible case.

15 posted on 08/10/2009 4:10:56 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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I bet if it ever comes to the Army against private (conservative) citizens, all the rules & squeemishness regarding collateral damage will go out the window.


17 posted on 08/10/2009 4:13:33 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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When misfortune begins to befall the Praetorian Guards, eventually the emperor finds himself alone.


20 posted on 08/10/2009 4:17:04 PM PDT by The Duke ("Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Democrat Party?")
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"I forget the name of the Senator who observed, "You know, a million here and a million there, and pretty soon you're talking about serious money."


That well loved Statesman, Republican Senator from Illinois, Everett McKinley Dirksen. He also happened to be the father-in-law of Senator Howard Baker of Tennessee. Dirksen was legendary for his fondness for the common marigold. His wife Louella Carver Dirksen wrote a biography, "The Honorable Mr. Marigold: My Life With Everett Dirksen." The Dirksen Senate Office Building is named in his honor.
23 posted on 08/10/2009 4:25:23 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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if it only takes out ONE traitor to this country before i go down, than it's done it's job... and there's one less traitorous bastard to hurt anybody else while going against their oath to defend this country from all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC!!!
25 posted on 08/10/2009 4:31:55 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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The gun will do whatever it can do. Look at the situation that recently occurred in India in which unarmed people were tortured and murdered by stinking muslim pigs. Had I been there, I would have fired every round I have into those rotten bastards. Every round except the last one, because if I cannot take out all of my enemies, then I will take out myself instead. I will not be taken, I will not be imprisoned, nor tortured, nor executed.

My gun puts me in charge of my fate. Obviously, I do not ever want to have to face this situation, but should it arise, I have control. I will never beg upon my knees for mercy from a tyrant.


28 posted on 08/10/2009 4:37:23 PM PDT by chris37
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I was on the phone last week with my son and we discussed this very topic. He is active Army, Infantry. 11 Bravo. He said they talked among themselves about this while in Iraq once in awhile. His said NO ONE he talked with, some Officers included, would obey any command to attack or harm U.S. citizens.

I felt better after that phone call.

34 posted on 08/10/2009 4:49:05 PM PDT by MountainDad
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With a handgun against an Army you can die like a man, with a vigorous second amendment and a citizenry armed as the founders intended you can live like a man.


37 posted on 08/10/2009 4:52:59 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (CommieCare: Need a Stent, Take a Pain Pill. Next!)
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Later


39 posted on 08/10/2009 4:54:06 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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The author of this piece appears to be Mike Vanderboegh as submitted by Bill St. Clair. It might be important to ask the AdminMod to change the author line.

In another posting of this piece it is prefaced by a quote from Federalist 28 which is quite appropriate:

"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense, which is paramount to all positive forms of government; and which, against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success, than against those of the rulers of an individual state. ... Power being almost always the rival of power, the general government will at all times stand ready to check the usurpations of the state governments; and those will have the same disposition toward the general government. The people, by throwing themselves into either scale, will infallibly make it preponderate. If their rights are invaded by either, they can make use of the other as the instrument of redress. ...

"It may safely be received as an axiom in our political system that the state governments will in all possible contingencies afford complete security against invasions of the public liberty by the national authority."

40 posted on 08/10/2009 4:56:37 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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Liberator The FP-45 Liberator was a pistol manufactured for the United States military during World War II for use by resistance forces in occupied territories. It was designed with the idea of offering an enemy soldier a cigarette, putting a round of .45 ACP twixt his eyes or in the base of his skull, and "liberating" the now deceased soldier's rifle, SMG, grenades, or anything else of military utility. A crude and clumsy weapon, the Liberator was never intended for front line service. It was originally intended as an insurgency weapon to be mass dropped behind enemy lines to resistance fighters in occupied territory. The weapon was valued as much for its psychological warfare effect as its actual field performance. It was believed that if vast quantities of these weapons could be delivered into Axis occupied territory, it would have a devastating effect on the morale of occupying troops. The plan was to drop the weapon in such great quantities that occupying forces could never capture or recover all the weapons. It was hoped that the thought of thousands of these unrecovered weapons potentially in the hands of the citizens of occupied countries would have a deleterious effect on enemy morale. The pistol had its origins in the US Army Joint Psychological Committee and was designed for the United States Army in 1942 by the Inland Guide Lamp Manufacturing Division of the General Motors Corporation in Dayton, Ohio.[1] The army designated the weapon the Flare Projector Caliber .45 hence the designation FP-45. This was done to disguise the fact that a pistol was being mass produced.[2] The original engineering drawings label the barrel as "tube", the trigger as "yoke", the firing pin as "control rod", and the trigger guard as "spanner". The Guide Lamp Division plant in Anderson, Indiana assembled a million[2] of these weapons. The Liberator project took about 6 months from conception to end of production with about 11 weeks of actual manufacturing time, done by 300 workers. The FP-45 was a crude, single-shot pistol designed to be cheaply and quickly mass produced. The ejection system was a wooden rod that was pushed down the barrel from the muzzle end to eject the fired cartridge case. The Liberator had just 23 largely stamped and turned steel parts that were cheap and easy to manufacture. It fired a .45 caliber pistol cartridge from an unrifled barrel. Due to the unrifled barrel, maximum effective range was only about 25 feet (less than 8 m). At longer range, the bullet would begin to tumble.
41 posted on 08/10/2009 4:57:41 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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