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91ST PGA CHAMPIONSHIP LIVE THREAD
http://www.pga2009.com ^ | 8/12/09 | PGA OF AMERICA

Posted on 08/11/2009 2:29:38 PM PDT by cleveland gop

The season's final major is here!!! The PGA comes back to Hazeltine National Golf Club in Chaska, MN where 156 players get a crack at glory's last shot and try to walk away with the Wannamaker Trophy. Last time we were here, in 2002, little known and unheralded Rich Beem held off Tiger Woods for what is still regarded as one of the biggest suprises in major championship history. This time around Hazeltine will show off the longest course ever in history, playing at 7,674 yards at par of 72.

3 of the 4 par 5's on the course, numbers 3, 11 and 15 will play at 633, 606, and 642 yards with number 7 playing at a "short" 572 yards.

Hole 14 plays as a short, 352 yard par 4 and the hole may be shortened to 318 yards to entice players to go for the green.

So lat's have at it boys and girls. Does Tiger win #15 this week and his 3rd event in a row, or can we expect another of the many6 world class players, like Masters' champ Angel Cabrera, US Open Champ Lucas Glover, or Open Champ Stewart Cink Or another to have something to say about it....


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Hobbies; Outdoors; Sports
KEYWORDS: golf; hazeltine; major; pga
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1 posted on 08/11/2009 2:29:38 PM PDT by cleveland gop
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To: cleveland gop

Yehhhh, the PGA. A bunch of soft wusses who cave every time Tiger Woods is anywhere close to the lead. Collectively, the weakest group of golfers in history right now.


2 posted on 08/11/2009 2:44:18 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: cleveland gop

I’ll take...Zach Johnson


3 posted on 08/11/2009 2:45:01 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: raptor29

Is Tiger going to give another speech for Obama?


4 posted on 08/11/2009 2:45:34 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: Rummyfan; elc; commish; GRRRRR; Mr. Mojo; avidgolfer; ThreePuttinDude; Hot Tabasco; Baynative; ...

Since I was at a public ‘puter, I was a little short of time so I didn’t get a chance to finish, so.......

For information such as tee times, course layout/description, weather, etc. go to

http://www.pga2009.com

http://www.cbssports.com

http://www.weather.com

TV AIRTIMES(ALL TIMES EDT)....

THURDSAY AND FRIDAY(8/13-14)ON TNT......2:00PM-8:00PM
CBS shows a 30 minute long highlight show late night both days, from 12:37AM-1:07AM

SATURDAY AND SUNDAY(8/15-16)ON TNT........11:00AM-2:00PM
ON CBS.....2:00PM-7:00PM, or whenever play ends if after then.


5 posted on 08/11/2009 2:59:32 PM PDT by cleveland gop (I don't know which Cleveland sports team is worse, the BROWNS or the INDIANS!!!)
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To: Frantzie
You mean the speech where he played tribute to the military and didn't mention Obama?

I grew up in a military family -- and my role models in life were my Mom and Dad, Lt. Colonel Earl Woods.

My dad was a Special Forces operator and many nights friends would visit our home. They represented every branch of service, and every rank. In my Dad, and in those guests, I saw first hand the dedication and commitment of those who serve. They come from every walk of life. From every part of our country. Time and again, across generations, they have defended our safety in the dark of night and far from home.

Each day -- and particularly on this historic day -- we honor the men and women in uniform who serve our country and protect our freedom. They travel to the dangerous corners of the world, and we must remember that for every person who is in uniform, there are families who wait for them to come home safely.

I am honored that the military is such an important part, not just of my personal life, but of my professional life as well. The golf tournament we do each year here in Washington is a testament to those unsung heroes. I am the son of a man who dedicated his life to his country, family and the military, and I am a better person for it.

In the summer of 1864, Abraham Lincoln, the man whose memorial we stand, spoke to the 164th Ohio Regiment and said:

"I am greatly obliged to you, and to all who have come forward at the call of their country."

Just as they have stood tall for our country -- we must always stand by and support the men and women in uniform and their families.

Thank you, and it is now my pleasure to introduce the U.S. Naval Glee Club.

6 posted on 08/11/2009 3:02:50 PM PDT by noexcuses
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To: Frantzie
How can you construe this speech as a speech "for Obama":

I grew up in a military family -- and my role models in life were my Mom and Dad, Lt. Colonel Earl Woods.

My dad was a Special Forces operator and many nights friends would visit our home. They represented every branch of service, and every rank. In my Dad, and in those guests, I saw first hand the dedication and commitment of those who serve. They come from every walk of life. From every part of our country. Time and again, across generations, they have defended our safety in the dark of night and far from home.

Each day -- and particularly on this historic day -- we honor the men and women in uniform who serve our country and protect our freedom. They travel to the dangerous corners of the world, and we must remember that for every person who is in uniform, there are families who wait for them to come home safely.

I am honored that the military is such an important part, not just of my personal life, but of my professional life as well. The golf tournament we do each year here in Washington is a testament to those unsung heroes. I am the son of a man who dedicated his life to his country, family and the military, and I am a better person for it.

In the summer of 1864, Abraham Lincoln, the man whose memorial we stand, spoke to the 164th Ohio Regiment and said:

"I am greatly obliged to you, and to all who have come forward at the call of their country."

Just as they have stood tall for our country -- we must always stand by and support the men and women in uniform and their families.

Thank you, and it is now my pleasure to introduce the U.S. Naval Glee Club.


7 posted on 08/11/2009 3:07:09 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (I am John Galt...)
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To: mdittmar

Hey, that works for me too...
But honestly, who doesn’t think Tiger is the prohibitive favorite, AGAIN???

Since I’m being infiltrated already by llort, maybe Tiger should have handed Padraig the trophy Sunday night. I guess it wasn’t good enough that Tiger called out the rules official, MORE THAN ONCE, that may have(hell no one really knows for 100% sure that the outcome would have been any different if they weren’t on the clock)changed the ending of the tourney and all.....
I don’t think I’ve ever heard him like that before, and I don’t know that we will again.


8 posted on 08/11/2009 3:08:25 PM PDT by cleveland gop (I don't know which Cleveland sports team is worse, the BROWNS or the INDIANS!!!)
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To: So Cal Rocket

Thank you very much, sir!!!!!!
Maybe that can put and end to the childish posts......

Welcome to the thread!!!!


9 posted on 08/11/2009 3:10:23 PM PDT by cleveland gop (I don't know which Cleveland sports team is worse, the BROWNS or the INDIANS!!!)
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To: noexcuses

THANKS!!!!!


10 posted on 08/11/2009 3:12:00 PM PDT by cleveland gop (I don't know which Cleveland sports team is worse, the BROWNS or the INDIANS!!!)
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To: noexcuses

For Obama’s inauguration.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/04/tiger-woods-meets-barack-obama-in-the-white-house-white-sox-too.html

Friend of Obama:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/16/tiger-woods-to-take-part_n_158699.html

As far as the other poster - Tiger missed the cut at the British Open which was almost won by a 59 year old with a 16 year old amateur coming within 4 strokes of winning.

Maybe the other poster can help Obnama and Tiger pass O’s DeathCare.


11 posted on 08/11/2009 3:12:24 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: cleveland gop

I think Tiger is quite the guy for standing up for Harrington.


12 posted on 08/11/2009 3:13:32 PM PDT by noexcuses
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To: Frantzie

“Is Tiger going to give another speech for Obama?”

Probably will, so he can be on the same tax “plan” that Geithner and the others were able to be on. The upper crust is selling out left and right, but they don’t know their history.


14 posted on 08/11/2009 4:33:45 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: cleveland gop
1. Make all players wear soft spikes. They still have the choice. We don't.

2. Ban the Long and Belly putters. These guys use their bodies as a fulcrum to steady the putter blade, thereby, in my opinion, assisting them in creating an illegal stance. This isn't croquet or polo. It's golf. Play and putt correctly or don't play!

3. Add additional security at events and arrest any drunks yelling "Go in the hole" or "you the man", or any other annoying expression just so they can go home, turn on the TIVO and hear themselves, or smuggle a cell phone in and call their retarded friends and family so they can be such a big man! Jail'em, give them 30 days and ban them from future events. Or, public execution. Whichever.

4. Try holding a tournament without beer. Oh that's right, only true and polite golf fans would attend! Can't do that!

15 posted on 08/11/2009 4:42:27 PM PDT by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: noexcuses

I’m listening to the local sportstalk station and Kelly Tilghman was just on. Apparently there was an opportunity for Tiger to maybe take back some of what he had said on Sunday and yesterday. He isn’t backing down from it one bit. He could take the high road, like he does his politics, cause I would really like to shoot down the consistent arguments of a very few that think he is a fan of Stupid.


16 posted on 08/11/2009 4:57:07 PM PDT by cleveland gop (I don't know which Cleveland sports team is worse, the BROWNS or the INDIANS!!!)
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To: Doc Savage

Hey then I must be part of the MOB cause I’m guilty of part of your number 3 rule.
See when I went to Firestone Saturday I originally wasn’t going to try to sneak my cellphone in, but driving down there I decided to. I put the phone in my hat and the battery in my pocket, got wanded, was asked to tip my cap and ended up walking in....
Then I went over to 1 tee and sat around as the twosomes started going off. My mistake was taking my phone out, which was long put silent and FReeping last week’s thread to give a couple of quick updates. I did this in between the tee offs 10 minutes or so time in between. Unfortunately, I think some 12 year old kid who was crying to mommy and daddy why he could have his phone and he couldn’t turned my in to the double secret Akron police squad.
I had to take my phone back to my car and I almost missed the ceremony held for local military personnel they had alongside the 16th fairway.

Anyway when Tiger hit the tee, so did the idiots, all screaming in unison first for everyone to close umbrellas as it was pouring out, then all the usual things as Tiger hit!!! By the time Padraig and Tim Clark teed off, there was maybe 200 people at the tee......

The rest of your rules, yep, yep and yep......


17 posted on 08/11/2009 5:24:26 PM PDT by cleveland gop (I don't know which Cleveland sports team is worse, the BROWNS or the INDIANS!!!)
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To: Frantzie

Please get off and stay off this thread if you’re going to fib about TWoods again. It’s very tiresome and just plain WRONG.

Thanks

G


18 posted on 08/11/2009 6:10:35 PM PDT by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President! (FUBO!))
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To: GRRRRR

Sit G In da house!!!


19 posted on 08/11/2009 6:16:07 PM PDT by cleveland gop (I don't know which Cleveland sports team is worse, the BROWNS or the INDIANS!!!)
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To: GRRRRR

Sit= SIR....

I know, I’m an idiot!!!


20 posted on 08/11/2009 6:25:08 PM PDT by cleveland gop (I don't know which Cleveland sports team is worse, the BROWNS or the INDIANS!!!)
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To: cleveland gop

BUSY sports weekend ahead. Cubs trying to salvage their season. In the next two weeks, I think they play 13 of 20 at home. 3 back of Saint Lou...

Golf...Nascar and NFL FootsBall starts their PreSeason...PLUS the Brother In Law is now a full Fire Command Chief at his FireHouse...very proud of him, going to his party on Sat.

Good thing I have the GMan Command Center to watch all this stuff. 19” and 24” monitors, plus 32” and 46” HDTV ...gonna be BUSY!!


21 posted on 08/11/2009 6:43:49 PM PDT by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President! (FUBO!))
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To: GRRRRR

Sounds like someone’s gonna be busy!!!

So remind me how your multiple monitor setup works????


22 posted on 08/11/2009 7:25:25 PM PDT by cleveland gop (I don't know which Cleveland sports team is worse, the BROWNS or the INDIANS!!!)
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To: mdittmar

There was a Fellowship Of Christian Athletes dinner tonight in the Minneapolis area that was attended by some 1,500 people. Among the featured speakers, John Rollins, Kenny Perry, Stewart Cink and Zach Johnson.

Sure would have been there if I were in the area, that’s for sure!!!


23 posted on 08/11/2009 7:30:39 PM PDT by cleveland gop (I don't know which Cleveland sports team is worse, the BROWNS or the INDIANS!!!)
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To: Frantzie

Look, I guess we’ll have to try this AGAIN!!

Read the exact context of Tigers’ speech in DC. How many times did he mention Stupid by name? HOW MANY??? Even in an indirect way?? ANSWER, ZERO!!!

His visit to the White House in April was done in conjunction and was directly related to his tournament, the AT&T National. Should he have not done the visit with Stupid? If he doesn’t, I don’t think the sponsors of the event that he’s hosting would have been very happy.

I’ve had it with the baseless assumptions concerning Tiger and his political views. We’re not in his inner circle, if sometime he wants to reveal that he leans conservative, that’s up to him. When he does, maybe then you can post apoligizes to us. If we’re wrong, we’ll admit it too.

Remember what the mods told you would happen if you kept hitting the abuse button? Keep those 2 words in mind if you continue to post crap over and over again.......


24 posted on 08/11/2009 8:57:22 PM PDT by cleveland gop (I don't know which Cleveland sports team is worse, the BROWNS or the INDIANS!!!)
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To: cleveland gop

Whatever. He throws clubs, swears, spits, doesn’t sign autographs for kids, caddie talks smack talk about other players, etc.

The one poster said how he will destroy the field with typical Tiger “fan boy” smack talk. Almost identical to those with Obama man crushes.

Well he missed the cut at the British Open and was beaten by a 59 year old and a 16 year old. He is still a friend of Obama’s. I did not see Mickelson giving speeches or paling around with Hussein.

You sound like you want to limit my free speech like Rep. John Dingel. Nice.

BTW:
Do you get the yips with 2 footers?
Take multiple mulligans?
Improve your lie in the rough?
Get no spin off the wedges too?


25 posted on 08/11/2009 9:08:14 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: cleveland gop

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/04/tiger-woods-meets-barack-obama-in-the-white-house-white-sox-too.html

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef01156f5072e3970c-pi


26 posted on 08/11/2009 9:19:09 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: cleveland gop

I like Kenny Perry, but Tiger’s hot.


27 posted on 08/11/2009 9:25:57 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Frantzie

Career Wins on the PGA Tour
Sam Snead - 82
Jack Nicklaus - 73
Tiger Woods - 70
Ben Hogan - 64
Arnold Palmer - 62
Byron Nelson - 52
Billy Casper - 51
Walter Hagen - 44
Cary Middlecoff - 40
Gene Sarazen - 39
Tom Watson - 39
Phil Mickelson - 36
Lloyd Mangrum - 36
Vijay Singh - 34
Horton Smith - 32
Harry Cooper - 31
Jimmy Demaret - 31
Leo Diegel - 30
Gene Littler - 29
Paul Runyan - 29
Lee Trevino - 29
Henry Picard - 26
Tommy Armour - 25
Johnny Miller - 25
Gary Player - 24
Macdonald Smith - 24
Johnny Farrell - 22
Raymond Floyd - 22
Jim Barnes - 21

Most Professional Majors Won
Jack Nicklaus - 18
Tiger Woods - 14
Walter Hagen - 11
Ben Hogan - 9
Gary Player - 9
Tom Watson - 8
Bobby Jones - 7
Arnold Palmer - 7
Gene Sarazen - 7
Sam Snead - 7
Harry Vardon - 7
Nick Faldo - 6
Lee Trevino - 6
Seve Ballesteros - 5
James Braid - 5
Byron Nelson - 5
J.H. Taylor - 5
Peter Thomson - 5
Willie Anderson Jr. - 4
Jim Barnes - 4
Raymond Floyd - 4
Bobby Locke - 4
Tom Morris Jr. - 4
Tom Morris Sr. - 4
Willie Park Sr. - 4


28 posted on 08/11/2009 9:27:30 PM PDT by John W
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To: John W

Tiger = friend of Obama.

Anyone remember Jack or Slammin Sammy Snead throwing clubs, swearing, spitting, having their caddy diss other players like a punk, dissing little kids looking for autographs? .

They never were under that roid cloud either.


29 posted on 08/11/2009 9:30:53 PM PDT by Frantzie (Lou Dobbs - American Hero! Bill O'Reilly = Liar)
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To: Frantzie

I simply posted a couple lists. Do you dispute those lists?


30 posted on 08/11/2009 9:33:04 PM PDT by John W
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To: raptor29
Yehhhh, the PGA. A bunch of soft wusses who cave every time Tiger Woods is anywhere close to the lead. Collectively, the weakest group of golfers in history right now.

I remember about fifteen years ago, all the experts saying that nobody would dominate the game ever again because the talent was so deep. Tiger proved them wrong in a big way. There's a reason others collapse when he's near the lead. Tiger performs under pressure and makes the big shot when it counts almost every time.

31 posted on 08/11/2009 9:34:01 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

Talent, my butt. A bunch of wusses. There are no course records being set out there, despite the equipment getting better and better with each passing year. Tiger Woods doesn’t put up rounds that other golfers haven’t put up, he just competes against a bunch of wusses. Phil Mickelson is his toughest competitor? What a joke, Mickelson is so soft, he could be Romney’s running mate. Golf is a joke right now.


32 posted on 08/11/2009 10:01:08 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: raptor29

Why don’t you go out there and show them what you can do?


33 posted on 08/11/2009 10:29:00 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: raptor29

How about course difficulty now versus the old days?


34 posted on 08/11/2009 10:41:40 PM PDT by John W
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To: Moonman62

Kenny’s had another great year, just like Steve Stricker has, but Tiger is in one of those “make a statement” modes. If I wanted to pick someone from the other side of the Atlantic who could win, I would have said Paul Casey, but with his injury, that isn’t going to happen.
Martin Kaymer could make some noise. This kid hits the ball a country mile, which on this course means a lot.

Anyways, when Tiger throws his clubs, swears, or Steve Williams pretends to be Clint Eastwood, don’t we call him out on it? In a perfect world, I want everyone on tour to act like Phil, or Tom Watson, or Jack, but that isn’t going to happen. And it isn’t Tiger’s fault the talent pool may not be as strong has it was back in the day, but the records are still going to go bye-bye in record time and some just can’t stand to see it happen.....


35 posted on 08/12/2009 6:22:38 AM PDT by cleveland gop (I don't know which Cleveland sports team is worse, the BROWNS or the INDIANS!!!)
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To: Moonman62

“Why don’t you go out there and show them what you can do?”

Nah, I prefer the real sports, you know, the ones where the players don’t have a conniption and interrupt their play if someone in the stands is eating potato chips too loudly while they are playing. PGA is wuss-central.


36 posted on 08/12/2009 8:01:43 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: cleveland gop

I heard that the PGA isn’t fining him for his remarks about the official putting them on the clock, but I haven’t yet seen anything to confirm that.


37 posted on 08/12/2009 8:09:10 AM PDT by noexcuses
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To: noexcuses

I’m glad Tiger called out the PGA on this, even though he personally benefited from putting him and Padraig on the clock.


38 posted on 08/12/2009 8:12:13 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: noexcuses

Apparently some Associated Mess hack reported that a fine was going to be assessed but Ty Votaw said yesterday that no fine was or is going to be levied against Tiger.

Phil is in the house and will hold his presser at 3:00.


39 posted on 08/12/2009 8:18:30 AM PDT by cleveland gop (I don't know which Cleveland sports team is worse, the BROWNS or the INDIANS!!!)
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To: raptor29

In other words, you don’t want those wusses making you look like a baby banging its rattle on the ground.


40 posted on 08/12/2009 8:28:44 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: raptor29

In other words, you don’t want those wusses making you look like a baby banging its rattle on the ground.


41 posted on 08/12/2009 8:29:10 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

No, I just prefer not to hop into the playpen at all. But you, feel free.


42 posted on 08/12/2009 8:36:00 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: cleveland gop
Thursday August 13 - it's game on!!!!

My picks:

1. Tiger Woods (of course)
2. Some unknown from The Field who has never won a major.... Let's say Jay Williamson.

43 posted on 08/12/2009 11:38:31 PM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan

Well we could go the older route and go with......FRED COUPLES!!!

7,672 yards??

If my math is right, that’s 4 1/2 miles!!!


44 posted on 08/13/2009 7:07:32 AM PDT by cleveland gop (I don't know which Cleveland sports team is worse, the BROWNS or the INDIANS!!!)
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To: cleveland gop
Your math is just about right.

I had the opportunity to walk the course twice Monday and again yesterday morning, my legs are still a little stiff.

45 posted on 08/13/2009 11:18:34 AM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: Rummyfan

Well day 1 has come and gone and are we really suprised???

That Padraig played well shows either the swing changes are working, or his game and mind are in complete harmony right now.

And with the average score over par, I wouldn’t imagine a huge lowering of scores the rest of the week. If Tiger, or anyone shoots a lot lower than -10, course designers worldwide should just throw their hands up screaming, NO MAS!!!


46 posted on 08/13/2009 6:57:36 PM PDT by cleveland gop (I don't know which Cleveland sports team is worse, the BROWNS or the INDIANS!!!)
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To: So Cal Rocket; noexcuses

So just to clarify. How many times was Stupid’s name mentioned in Tiger’s sppech??

Is the answer ZERO????

That’s what I thought!!!


47 posted on 08/13/2009 7:01:36 PM PDT by cleveland gop (I don't know which Cleveland sports team is worse, the BROWNS or the INDIANS!!!)
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To: cleveland gop
Seems as scoring conditions were very favorable yesterday. If Tiger goes low again today I think this rodeo is over. Pretty strong leaderboard however.


48 posted on 08/13/2009 11:55:26 PM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan

Supposed to be very windy today. We’ll see if the AM bunch has it better again or not.


49 posted on 08/14/2009 6:24:04 AM PDT by cleveland gop (I don't know which Cleveland sports team is worse, the BROWNS or the INDIANS!!!)
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To: cleveland gop

330 pm PT here.. Lehman is +2 for the day thru 14, cut looks like +4.. Mickelson looks to advance at that.


50 posted on 08/14/2009 3:37:07 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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