Skip to comments.Agog over Bush's comments on Gog and Magog
Posted on 08/13/2009 12:07:59 PM PDT by P.O.E.
Incredibly, President George W. Bush told French President Jacques Chirac in early 2003 that Iraq must be invaded to thwart Gog and Magog, the Bible's satanic agents of the Apocalypse.
Honest. This isn't a joke. The president of the United States, in a top-secret phone call to a major European ally, asked for French troops to join American soldiers in attacking Iraq as a mission from God.
Now out of office, Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to their "common faith" (Christianity) and told him:
"Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East. ... The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled. ... This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins."
This bizarre -- seemingly deranged -- episode happened while the White House was assembling its "coalition of the willing" to unleash the Iraq invasion. Chirac says he was boggled by Bush's call, and "wondered how someone could be so superficial and fanatical in their beliefs."
(Excerpt) Read more at wvgazette.com ...
Amazing how the left needs to bash Bush (makes a convenient distraction from health care, I suppose)
I suspect Chirac had his face buried in his mistress’ chest at the time and didn’t hear things correctly....
And we are to believe Chirac because...?
Another top secret conversation revealed by an out-of-office loser.
I miss President Bush...I never knew how much I would miss his solid leadership. I felt safe and never once did I worry about losing our freedoms.
No way no how. Totally out of character. Bush was convinced about the need for aggressive war on terror, but he was a geopolitical pragmatist.
Nice to see W is a fan of Joel Rosenberg’s novels.
You are always going to have some derranged fool saying BS like this but the real question is why the media publishes it.
Also, Dwight Eisenhower repeatedly referred to the Nazi forces as “Huns” during the Second World War. Even though everybody knows that actual Huns hadn’t been heard from for over 1000 years. Honest. I am not making this up.
Me too. I try not to think about what would happen if (God forbid) we had a serious security threat nowadays. I guess we'd just apologize.
I don’t believe this for a second. I don’t even believe that Chirac said it. I think some writer is just making stuff up.
I find this story highly unlikely anyway, but the very notion that we (the US) have the duty to try to stop Gog and Magog, or that we are even capable of doing anything to impede the coming Armageddon, is preposterous.
God’s plans are not alterable.
I smell BS. Why?
Because Gog and Magog are predicted in the Bible. That means (for a believer) it will happen. It is just a matter of time. Humans can’t prevent it.
Bush saying “We’ve got to stop Gog and Magog” would be the same as him saying “We’ve got to twart God’s prophecies.”
Don’t see it.
1) I’m pretty sure President Bush knows his Bible better than this.
2) How would this qualify as “deranged”? Because the writer doesn’t believe the Bible?
I never did understand the “Hun” thing...
Calling the Germans ‘the Hun’ was common currency. For instance: Churchill did, most people in Britain did.
Completely unexceptional amongst the Anglophone Allies.
The author insists on using the terms “bizarre” and “deranged” as if they were somehow a given. If Bush had said the Four Horsemen were riding I don’t think anyone reasonable would look literally for four guys on horseback. There’s this wonderful linguistic construct called “metaphor” and it generally isn’t all that difficult to understand when somebody is using one. It is, however, easy to misrepresent if you want to make them look stupid.
If anyone thinks only conservatives wear tin foil hats this story should give then pause.
Were the comments originally reported by African Press International?
“1) Im pretty sure President Bush knows his Bible better than this.”
I doubt it. The man repeatedly said stupid, even blasphemous things like “Christians and Jews and Muslims all worship the same god”, and that there are many different ways to salvation, etc.