Posted on 08/14/2009 8:51:27 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright
National Guard forced all people out of their grid locked vehicles and put them onto buses which took them to the airport for transport. Gone were all the survival goods that the family had packed. Granted, they were not survivalists and only packed family mementos, but if they had, the survival goods would have been forced to be left behind in the car. The National Guard were armed and ready to shoot if the people did not comply. "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."
If there is a need for an emergency bug out and you are an urban resident, how are you going to leave in time to avoid the traffic jam and gridlock that will surely occur? I am not being factitious; I am truly posing this question to this NG for discussion.
I will survive,
Gene
I had the same thought. I am going to rent a storage locker near my bug out site and keep my food storage/ammo storage/etc there and include my bicycle in my truck when heading for my 70 mile away bug out site. I could think of nothing else worse than sitting in that situation. My bug out site is a 12 acre mountain property with a partially completed cabin on it. Worse case I could walk to it in 2-3 days. Survive!
Gary
Hello...
As someone who has a slant on this issue, the first thing I urge you to do is stay current with factual, unbiased news sources. It is essential to see the writing on the wall before the sheep see it.
Have 2, 3, or perhaps 4 routes pre-planned and reconnoitered well in advance. Stay off the main highways and do not have your survival goodies visible in your vehicles. Never let your gas tank drop below half, and always keep the vehicle well-maintained.
Always carry at least three hundred dollars in (twenties?) small bills for any sudden purchases that may crop up. If you do need to get to your retreat due to civil unrest or a socio-economic upheavel; the 300.00 will buy quite a bit of canned veggies, top ramen soups, MRE's or whatever you might need more of. If you work in a large metro area and have your family in the burbs, prearrange what will transpire if the roles are reversed and the strife occurs in the burbs and not the city. Have a meeting place set up and pre-arrange what gear the burb dweller will bring.
If you have the luxory of having a bug-out retreat that is relatively safe, maintain 80% of your gear there...cleverly concealed in camouflaged rooms or cache's around the property. NEVER share your arrangements or survival plans to anyone who is not of our ilk.
If you have a location selected but do not own property there, make several trips to the area at various times through-out the year, so the locals get to recognize you and your vehicles. Get to know the local grocer, realtor, home construction laborers, and sporting goods store owner...these folks will probably be the most well-known in the town and the mere knowledge of names and occupations may get you through the highway blockades which are sure to spring up when the strife transpires.
Stay current in your 6 month dental appointments, stay current in tetanus and hepatitis precautions, first aid rtaining, CPR, skills related to fishing, firearms proficiency, food acquisition, and 'blending' with others who may not necessarily be your educational peers.
If your State has license plates that bear some indication of your community or county, you might want to consider going to a junk-yard and buying a set of the local plates. If you are bugging to a different State, ditto. Do not don a business suit if you are driving in a logging type environment. Wear a flannel shirt and an old baseball hat. You will look the part and avert nervous locals to more obvious strangers.
My friends, as one who has been prepared for a number of years, I feel we are on the brink of a re-structuring in our Country. I might recommend you look toward the Militia movement or any group that supports the second amendment.
Get to nkow others who believe in our American way of life and in selfreliance.
Be a good neighbor and an honest person. Give others the benefit of the doubt unless you factually know otherwise.
Just my two cents.
Vanished
Don't trust the Government. Don't trust Corruption.
More discussion in depth can be found here: Emergency Preparedness
Take care. Stay Armed. Stay Safe.
TOWARD FREEDOM
P I N G for discussion
I like the way the post emphasizes the need for anonymity. You really dont want to stand out if you are bugging out.
The people who didnt prepare will focus on taking the stuff for the people who did. If that happens, chances are the prepared person may have to shoot the looter. No one wants to do that if it can be helped.
They also need to realize that if things are really bad, the only people you can trust are the immediate family members who are with you, and those friends who have prepared with you.
Weve given it some thought, and if this happens there are less than eight folks in our crew. The rest are strangers and will be treated as such.
Well i dcould bug out but I have decided to stay and fight.
There won’t be just ONE looter to shoot. And you might be overrun before you are able to be loaded up and out.
Good plan is to convoy up to your bug out point with like minded friends. You may between you have several options to pick from and so you can change plans mid route if necessary or if a vehicle breaks down. You need to travel in a bigger group, a lone vehicle is going to be a breeze to ambush and snipe. You need more people working together manning different lookouts on the road, constantly scanning. Condition Orange all the way up.
for later.
And if the strife is in the burbs, no way I'd retreat to an urban setting. Better to go rural. And stock the travel-all with exotic liqueurs (for hot fudge Tuesday and remember your Kipling). /obscure
We’re not going anywhere. I’m not donating my household possessions to the locals.
A dirt bike with an oversized gas tank would be a good thing to have.
You could be my neighbor. Have lots of rounds, food, water containers, gasoline containers, generator, camping gear, 3 different locations to head to, know the roads without the need of a map, have a very well trained dog, wife and kids are good shots, and I can revert to sleeping like a cat again. I won’t be caught flat footed. Period. My government trained me well 25 years ago and I havent forgotten. If the poop hits the propeller, my wife and kids will be safe. Semper Fi.
I would add: ensure that at least one of your alternative routes is based on the possibility that you will be bugging out ON FOOT -- due to roads either (a) blocked/jammed or (b) being watched.
Which would also necessitate you having an alternative (and much smaller) set of bug-out items, as you'd have to carry everything on your back in this scenario.
Just something to think about -- something that many people forget about when doing their planning. You may not be able to just "jump in the Jeep and go."
If the poop hits the rotary blades, we will need to establish enclaves of families helping to protect one another and plink the ‘zombies’.
Ping
I remain fairly convinced that the bug-out scenario is unworkable.
If “bug-out” time happens, the first (well maybe the third) guy on the road will be a geezer in a 64 Rambler that hasn’t had an oil change for the last eight years.
He’ll get a half mile and blow a rod and the road will be a parking lot.
So then you sit there - relatively exposed - surrounded by po’d, desperate people, screaming kids, people who are thirsty, their meds might be running out....
NOT a good plan, IMHO!!
I’ve given these scenarios some serious thought, and do have a crude bug-out plan in the works. Though sometimes I wonder about the involvement of the national guard in these scenarios. Most of the ‘Guard folks I know are red-blooded, freedom loving country folk, and I don’t know how many would be implicit in “rounding people up” or “watching the roads.”
travis had a pretty good article on the bug out bag...
The most powerful “weapon” in your arsenal should be your brain. Write down your plan, put your ego away, have your wife critique it, rewrite it, internalize it. Don’t wait until you see the signs (whether natural disaster or man-made). Act sooner rather than later. You can always make a U-turn and go home. Practice makes perfect. No practical plan will cover every contingency but having a plan is the way to train your brain to think your way out of most anything.
Staying at home is the safest position until one can thoroughly gather intelligence about travel routes. Be sure to provision your bug out location well in advance with survival gear, food, arms etc. Taking chances traveling with a truck load of provisions risks everything and puts one and their family in a potentially indefensible position. If a bug out is unavoidable, have a back pack equipped for a minimum of 3 days survival with a rifle and a sidearm and however much ammo you can comfortably carry. Good shoes for hiking. There are many variations of what people would want in a bug out bag. Just remember you are carrying it for survival, not comfort.
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