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Obama's MySpace page: I'm 52 years old, not 48
WND ^ | August 17, 2009 | Unknown

Posted on 08/17/2009 3:53:09 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron

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To: FredZarguna
However, the point is that his mother was a US citizen, therefore, it does not matter if he was born on the moon. He was automatically naturalized at birth by his mother's citizenship, and that makes him a "natural born citizen," as the Constitution requires.

Someone who has been 'naturalized' cannot possibly be native born. Besides it's not true anyway that a person born of an American Citizen parent, is automatically a citizen, regardless of where born. If born outside the US, to one alien and one citizen, the citizen parent must meet certain residency requirements, which were 10 years total and 5 after the 14th birthday, which Stanly Ann did not meet, in August of 1961, or at any earlier time. If OTOH, she was not married, she only need to have been a citizen and resided in the US for one year. However either way, that's "naturalized at birht", under statute law passed under Congress power to define a uniform rule of naturalization, therefore, he would not under those conditions be eligible to the office of President, again if born overseas. Only if born in Hawaii, and illegitimate and with no father claimed on the BC, could he then claim "natural born" status.

101 posted on 08/17/2009 11:18:05 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

The Constitution does not say native born; it says natural born. That definition has been the subject of dispute since 1790. There is no dispute about what “native” means.


102 posted on 08/17/2009 11:48:20 PM PDT by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47. In leather.)
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To: FredZarguna
That definition has been the subject of dispute since 1790. There is no dispute about what “native” means.

What dispute? Congress realized they'd exceeded powers enumerated to them under the Constitution, and so "natural born citizen" could not be extended by them to citizens born overseas, and so they removed it in 1795.

It's all quite orderly and in accord with the original understanding of John Jay.

103 posted on 08/18/2009 3:58:40 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: OldEagle

Excellent point.

So, if you have Barack H. Obama, Sr. then you have Barack H. Obama, Jr. If the Prez had a son and wanted to name him the same, then that child would be Barack H. Obama III, correct?


104 posted on 08/18/2009 6:22:54 AM PDT by Joe Marine 76 ("Veritas vincit!")
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To: ErnBatavia

Sometimes it’s worth a laugh tho...


105 posted on 08/18/2009 6:35:27 AM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Bender2

What have you been up to?? ;)


106 posted on 08/18/2009 11:00:26 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Well, one indication of why this little glitch was exposed relates to the specious comment you so casually tossed out, that being born in Hawaii would make him a natural born citizen ... and you know the issue is far from settled since his claimed father was a British subject. Are you one of those who believes anchor babies born of illegals but upon AMerican soil are also natural born citizens?


107 posted on 08/18/2009 11:13:32 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: txroadkill; Non-Sequitur; trumandogz

Well I’ve been wondering who trumandogz is, and now you’ve nailed it. Trumandogz is Chevy Chase! Of course that would also mean that Non-Sequitur is Ben Stein, and WOSG is John Belushi ...


108 posted on 08/18/2009 11:45:18 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Canedawg

Have you had a chance to look thoroughly at Apuzzo’s case in IIRC New Jersey? That one is the sleeper suit which has a really strong chance.


109 posted on 08/18/2009 11:56:59 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
When I first read about this case, I said/posted that it was brilliant to attack the process of vetting as well as the questionable outcome of that. I have said that imho Dean's resignation as chairman was deliberately set up to make him the fall guy if somehow it is determined that the vetting process failed in this instance.

I wont say I thought of it first, but previously I did think of that angle, independent of this lawsuit.

Anyways, I came across this advertorial that was written by Kerchner and plugs Apuzzo's role in the case.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18352802/Kerchner-v-Obama-Congress-Advertorial-Wash-Times-20090810-pg-89-Obama-is-a-Brit

Looks like you will have to copy the link into your browser to see it.
110 posted on 08/18/2009 2:45:03 PM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: Canedawg

I got a copy when Charles put it together.


111 posted on 08/18/2009 4:12:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I believe his mother was a US Citizen at the time of his birth.

If indeed he was born in Hawaii (unproven), it would make him a natural born citizen.


112 posted on 08/18/2009 4:48:48 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Retired Greyhound
If indeed he was born in Hawaii (unproven), it would make him a natural born citizen.

Based upon what law or what provision in the Constitution? There are none dealing with natural born citizenship outside of the language specific to Presidential eligibility.

That language in the Constitution was understood at the time it was written and ratified, to have specific meaning, and Supreme Court decisions right through at least to Perkins v. Elg in the twentieth century, are within the original understanding, that a natural born citizen is born in the United States, of two citizen parents.

If you're citing a law regarding citizenship status, it is only pertinent to naturalization per the power enumerated to Congress under the Constitution.

113 posted on 08/18/2009 5:46:14 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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