Posted on 08/18/2009 11:12:37 AM PDT by NonZeroSum
It would be nice if, when we want to use some tags for emphasis (such as <em> to denote someone else's comment), or bolding, if we didn't have to then revert into full HTML and manually add paragraph breaks. It shouldn't have to be all or nothing. For instance, the blogging software Wordpress automatically converts line breaks to paragraph tags, while still allowing the addition of HTML for other things.
Is there some reason that we couldn't have the same capability here? It would make commenting a lot less painful.
I believe JimRob has proprietarily coded software running FR. I say type out the HTML tags. At least it’s basic HTML.
I do agree that using something like quote or em would be nice, but I don’t like to mess with the big man’s toys.
You seem to be missing my point. I already do type out HTML tags, and have no problem with it. I'm just saying that we shouldn't have to add <p>...</p> to every paragraph.
As long as mods and Jim are looking at this issue, I might comment that “spell check” is acting weird, often saying that EVERY WORD I type is wrong.
I am not the best speller, but -—
It’s an all or nothing system. If you have no other tags, it’ll take whitespace literally. If you use tags, then all of the other associated tags must be used (p, etc).
You don’t.
I never do.
Embarrassing to say the least.
Regards,
GtG
I’d like to second this.
Or third, or whatever it’s up to.
It's just a handful of tags to learn (3 actually), and you can learn and use more if you want to.
I've been to other blogs and forums that use a different system. Might be simpler for some easy things (though not always the case), but then there are other tags that they won't recognize at all. It's a trade-off.
I’m pretty sure we should Ignore This Post...
You do realize that the /p tag is optional, right? Not necessary at all.
Thank you. I know that. The purpose of this post is to complain about it.
There's no reason that it has to be that way. It could be coded to automagically include the paragraph tags even if someone wants to use other tags. There's no good reason this should have to be done manually, since it obviously has the capability to add the breaks automatically, if there is no HTML in the comment.
Sigh...
There's nothing "hard" about it. It's just a pointless pain in the keester, for no good reason, to have to put in paragraph tags on all my grafs if I want to add any HTML at all, and it introduces an opportunity to introduce more errors.
Why make us do it? That's what computers are for.
It’s an all or nothing system. If you have no other tags, it’ll take whitespace literally. If you use tags, then all of the other associated tags must be used (p, etc).
Thank you. I know that. The purpose of this post is to complain about it.
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Copying The Man who may be able to answer your inquiry and change request.
I’m a hack, using your earlier mentioned option may be the best way, tho the spellchecker option soound good too.
I do it the old fashioned way, HTML that is. insert this and insert that.. It’s a pain especially if you post huge pieces that require lots of marking up and such. not sure how else to get around that for now.
Of course it would require some coding. That's what I'm requesting. But it shouldn't require much. It clearly already has the capability for comments that don't have HTML. All that should be necessary is to change a conditional so that it doesn't stop doing it just because it encounters an HTML tag.
There's your sign riiight there....
It’s an all or nothing system. If you have no other tags, it’ll take whitespace literally. If you use tags, then all of the other associated tags must be used (p, etc).
Thank you. I know that. The purpose of this post is to complain about it.
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John, insert p auto feature?
Copying The Man who may be able to answer your inquiry and change request.
I’m a hack, using your earlier mentioned option may be the best way, tho the spellchecker option soound good too.
I do it the old fashioned way, HTML that is. insert this and insert that.. It’s a pain especially if you post huge pieces that require lots of marking up and such. not sure how else to get around that for now.
Hey - slick! Thanks!
Yep. Only time it’s “required” is on HTML generators that don’t realize it’s optional...like MS Front Page. Course Front Page also throws a whole bunch of other non-required code in as well.
It depends on the browser. Better safe than sorry.
To start with the P tag doesn't need the ending tag, /P. You only need the beginning tag not the ending one. Next Para just put another P(in brackets of course).
Secondly, I am sure if you wanted to donate the money and the time to recode Jim Robs Web page he would be happy to oblige, as long as you could do a good job. This forum costs you nothing, you are not required to donate money and you can use it for free as much as you want.
A person who complains about the software on a free forum as if somehow they are paying a fee for it is pretty low in my opinion, of course that's just me. Liberals and other free loading types probably feel differently about it since they think they are entitled.
BTW, do you donate?
If we’re going to change the code, let’s ask for the Holy Grail-the ability to edit your post after it’s posted.
Let me rephrase. I am not complaining. I am offering a suggestion to make the forum better for many of us. I have no expectation, only a hope, that it will be acted on. If someone wants to show me the code, I could probably point out exactly where to make the change. But if people don't make such suggestions, how would things ever improve?
No kidding. That one shouldn't be that hard, either, though it would be a more complex problem.
Actually, on second thought, I can see why they wouldn't want to do that. It could lead to all sorts of mischief, like denying that you'd written something slanderous that you had, and then putting it down the memory hole.
I’m not complaining. Matter of fact, I said in my initial post that I didn’t want to mess with the Big Man’s toys.
It would only if it were coded to do that (with a capability of retaining the original version). It could be done, but it would be a much more complex problem. As others have noted, this is custom code.
Find a good & free HTML and text editor. Keep it open at the same time and filled with your favorite HTML snippets and images.
I’ve wanted to edit most of my posts after the fact. LOL!
NO!!!! I didn’t vote for change in the last election, & I’m not about to start now! ;)
The “new” search should be fixed/changed back before anything else
Gee Non.....
What do you want?
You want to drag Free Republic kicking and screaming into the 21st century?
Give it a few years. Maybe one of these days.....
I’ll second that!
The search function just plain sucks.
Sigh...
Please, go reread what I wrote. I have no problem with HTML. I have written HTML for a living.
I would just like to not have to put in paragraph tags, when the computer can do it much easier, faster, and typo free, than I can.
Maybe you’ve got it checking for coherence instead of spelling.
(hehe, just kidding.)
If I need to find anything on FR, I do a Google site search. I’ve never been able to find anything with the FR search.
That time - years ago - when John R. fiddled about with ‘Search’ and gave us the drop-down box with keywords, title, yahoo search and so on; I suggested he make an easy fix and have the function default to titles inseard of keywords.
He said “OK - No problem”.
As you see - it must have been a “problem”.
I quit making suggestions and ideas. Since what they do makes things worse....
Better to keep quiet.
I don’t know diddly about HTML. Never use it.
But I know how to format for paragraphs by using the ENTER key, and how to post links by cutting and pasting. In other words, I just type in this nice little box and hit “Post” when I’m done.
FReepers with superior knowledge may have better posts than mine, but the current software works just fine for us novices, too.
Please, go reread what I wrote. I have no problem with HTML. I have written HTML for a living."
Since I had not seen John R rewriting any FR code since you posted the original suggested change I made a rather simple suggestion.
Sigh....
Yes, that's why it's not a problem for you. It's a problem for those of us who do.
A suggestion so simple that it doesn't in any way address my problem, and indicates that you don't even understand what the problem is.
"Find a good & free HTML and text editor. Keep it open at the same time and filled with your favorite HTML snippets and images."
It was not intended to address the problem of HTML experts like yourself in any way, shape, or form. Far be it from me to provide advice to you.
It was a general suggestion to others who may want to explore HTML and use it when posting on FR.
I'm sorry then, but you should have made that more clear, because since it was addressed to me, I kind of assumed that it was directed at me. It would have been better to address it to someone who claimed not to know HTML and wanted to.
No, it shouldn't. That's why, if you use Firefox, you should download the add-on for Xinha Here! and use it -- it's similar to WordPress options, and it's not that difficult to learn. (Press "Post Reply," right click on the reply box, and select "Open Xinha Here!")
And yes, it's annoying when comments are lacking simple HTML codes for quotes.
Negative. Fro two reasons (at least):
1. Some folks have tried to deny that they posted something. The lack of edit keeps them honest.
2. Think of all the great posts that would have been edited (dumby and the like).
I found that trick by accident. Enjoy.
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