Skip to comments.Question about Guns in Ian Flemings Casino Royale (Spoilers)
Posted on 08/24/2009 7:58:27 AM PDT by Perdogg
I got finished reading Casino Royale this weekend and I came across two guns I have never heard before.
Was there a Remington 3030 rifle prior to 1960?
He also says Le Chiffre was killed by a SMERSH agent with a Russian .35 caliber handgun. I have never heard of Russian .35 caliber weapon. Did this weapon exist or was this a typo?
Remington/Winchester 30-30 -the rifle that tamed the west goes back to the 1890’s- google and see the various models- big sales in the 1950’s as former military take up hunting
Fleming may have used literary license, but not much if at all. A covert action agency and private weapons designers for hire can improvise weapons if what is needed is not already available.
I’ve read a number of the books too. Ian Flemming was actually an excellent writer.
What caliber is a CZ-52? I know it fires a 7.62x29 round, but I’ve never been able to figure out caliber from that?
7.62x39 is .308 caliber. It’s the round used by AK-47 and is shorter than our .308...lower muzzle velocity.
7.62 X 2.54 = .30 inches
7.62x29 means the bullet diameter is 7.62 mm ( = 0.30 inches = .30 cal) and the cartridge length is 29 mm.
He's talking about 7.62x29, which is a pistol caliber mainly used in old Russian officer's pistols.
Actually, I believe, the CZ52 is 7.62x25.
Typically, 7.62 in a handgun is a .32 caliber.
7.62x39 on left, 7.62x25 on right
Of course it's x25 ... the next one up is 7.62x39 ... sorry about that.
Maybe a Remington model 788 (bolt action)?
I’ve often wondered about the slight differences in the way caliber is used.
The 7.62X51 NATO round is I believe identical to the .308 Winchester round.
But converting 7.62mm to inches gives
7.62mm X (1/25.4)in/mm = .3000... in.
I think the difference may be that .308 is the bullet diameter, but .300 (the caliber in European NATO parlance) is the land-to-land diameter of the barrel.
The nominal bullet diameter of 9mm parabellum (9x19), .380 ACP (9 mm Kurz), and .38 Super is actually 0.355", so technically they are all ".35 calibers." Even the .38 Special and .357 SIG and .357 magnum, with a nominal bullet diameter of 0.357" would technically qualify as ".35 calibers", although the SIG was not around at the time Casino Royale was written.
It may have been a typo on Fleming's or his editor's parts, but in many of the earlier books, Bond himself used a Beretta .25 ACP (6.35 mm) and someone not familiar with firearms could have easily fat-fingered the "3" instead of a "2" and not caught the error.
Or Remington model 30 in 30-06.
.38 caliber weapons in the US, and elsewhere, are actually .357 caliber. Hence a .35 caliber Russian weapon would be a 9 mm, or 8.9 MM for an exact conversion. Does Flemming give the make of the gun? The Makarov was a popular Russian semi auto and it was first made in 1940, still around today. It was a 9MM handgun. So, yes, Russia had a .35 caliber pistol.
The 30-30(always typed with the hyphen)was invented in the late 1890s. The most popular 30-30 was the Winchester Model 94, lever action. However, there were several bolt action rifles made for the 30-30. Remington also made a pump and semi auto for a round that was identical to the 30-30 but it used a rimless case instead of the rimmed case a 30-30 uses. The round was officially called the .30 Remington but many called it the 30-30 Remington. Savage was one of the many manufactures who made 30-30 bolt action rifles. All of these firearms were available in 1960. I personally prefer the Marlin 336(and variants)to the Winchester 94.:)
Actually 7.62 is a 30 caliber, not 32. 7.65 is a .32 and the .32 ACP round was called the 7.65 in Europe(actually 7.65 rounds out to about .31 but you know how it is). 9MM is a .355.
My bookshelf at home is resembling what used to be the one in the Ian Fleming section at Barnes and Noble.
I love these threads on guns and ammo. I learn something every time. Freepers know their stuff.
“I think the difference may be that .308 is the bullet diameter, but .300 (the caliber in European NATO parlance) is the land-to-land diameter of the barrel.”
Exactly right. If the bore diameter is .300 and the rifling is .004” deep, then the overall bore diameter from groove-to-groove is .308”. As a reloader, I know that .308 has been popular over the years for a number of commercial and military calibers.
Thank you! Thank you all.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.