Man, you dont want to play blackjack with her at the table. She has the most talented fingers in the world, chip wise. lol
Otherwise, she was a perfectly decent type.
Posted on 08/27/2009 12:47:54 PM PDT by Borges
BUCHAREST, Romania - At first, fans politely applauded the Roma performers sharing a stage with Madonna. Then the pop star condemned widespread discrimination against Roma, or Gypsies — and the cheers gave way to jeers.
The sharp mood change that swept the crowd of 60,000, who had packed a park for Wednesday night's concert, underscores how prejudice against Gypsies remains deeply entrenched across Eastern Europe.
Despite long-standing efforts to stamp out rampant bias, human rights advocates say Roma probably suffer more humiliation and endure more discrimination than any other people group on the continent.
Sometimes, it can be deadly: In neighboring Hungary, six Roma have been killed and several wounded in a recent series of apparently racially motivated attacks targeting small countryside villages predominantly settled by Gypsies.
"There is generally widespread resentment against Gypsies in Eastern Europe. They have historically been the underdog," Radu Motoc, an official with the Soros Foundation Romania, said Thursday.
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Well they are kind of offensive in their approach to begging.
I usually give to almost anyone but the gypsy children made me want to push them away physically.
Aren’t Gypsies anarchists?
Dear old (and I do mean old) Madge...trying sooo hard to stay ‘relevant.’
I know very little of the Gypsie/Roma struggles and/or prejudices. Suffice to say...quoting the great social arbitor of our time, Homer Simpson, ‘Celebrities, is there nothing they don’t know?’
She likes the concept, but doesn’t have to live with them. There’s a fine line between abusive prejudice of the majority and rational reaction to a foreign, somewhat predatory culture.
“Radu Motoc, an official with the Soros Foundation Romania, said Thursday.”
Laughable source IMO. Gypsies are notorious thieves, and Societal nuisances. They thrive on the dark side. I take no pity upon them.
Maybe it underscores how people who paid twelve times too much to hear Madonna's greatest hits of the late 80s don't want to waste a dime of their time listening to her opinions on Romania's historic ethnic strife.
Well, let’s see how long Madonna holds out for her latest “cause”—
Just visit Rome in the early summer some time. The gypsies are a plague, especially on public transit. They train all their children to be skilled pickpockets. You can spot the little vermin because each carries a towel over its arm, the better to hide its other hand while picking your pocket. The alleged “bias” against them is just as reasonable as a “bias” against flea infested plague rats.
The Soros Foundation Romania? George is all over the planet, isn’t he.
Just visit Rome in the early summer some time. The gypsies are a plague, especially on public transit. They train all their children to be skilled pickpockets. You can spot the little vermin because each carries a towel over its arm, the better to hide its other hand while picking your pocket. The alleged “bias” against them is just as reasonable as a “bias” against flea infested plague rats.
Did the Roma steal all her stuff afterwards?
I’ve heard that they ‘acquire’ mannequins, dressmaker’s forms, etc. along with cheap (or stolen) old used pants and spend hour upon hour with a razor knife, perfecting their skills at slicing the pocket stitching so that they can do it almost instantaneously and without the victim feeling a thing.
You’re walking along, brush up against someone and then a couple of city blocks later you notice that half of your pants pocket is flapping in the breeze and your wallet is gone.
And pointing out or objectng to this is being redefined as ‘racism’.
Whooops!!! Just ‘noticed’ Soros??? Soros?????? SOROS??? Foundation???
Huh???
Gypsies are a race?
the whole thread reminds me of our squatters from messico and points further south
The degree of accuracy of the three statements you mention might be calculated by accurately determining what percentage of Jews, Gypsies and Italians actually are “notorious thieves, and Societal nuisances.”
Certainly any such statement is never true of all members of a group, but as the percentage for which it is accurate increases, it becomes progressively more true as a general statement.
Your comment reminds me somewhat of the liberal shock when waitstaff (including black waitstaff) are resistant to serving black groups because of the “stereotype” that blacks are cheap tippers. No research project could be simpler than determining whether blacks (as a group) do indeed tend to stiff waiters, but somehow liberals are utterly uninterested in doing this basic research.
IOW, some stereotypes are quite accurate in the generality, although often unfair to particular members of a given group.
When I visited Italy a few years ago it was obvious the Italians, some of the nicest people in the world, viewed them as vermin. My direct, personal experience occurred on the metro while I was going to the Vatican. One of the vile little things made a move on me, I slapped down at it, jumped back, and yelled a large, loud NO!! All the Italians on the car cheered me, the Ugly American.
“Soros Foundation Romania” hummm....
A Soros agency advocating for human rights. This is rich. George Soros sold out fellow Jews to the Nazis.
Your moral superiority is showing!
It’s a way of life. Like homosexual.
“Many do not have official identification, which means they cannot get social benefits, are undereducated and struggle to find decent jobs.”
Tell them to come here and just get in line!
Have you lived in countries where there are gypsies? Have you ever been attacked by a band of children coming out of a Metro who tgry to take your watch and wallet? Stereotypes are wrong, but there is a basis for those stereotypes. Having lived in five countries a total of 13 years, I can understand why there is prejudice against gypsies.
They’re an ethnic group not a race.
No one is saying that all Roma are “gypsies” but there are packs of vagabonds who exist solely to take from society and move on to the next victims. There are incidents in America too.
“...waitstaff (including black waitstaff) are resistant to serving black groups because of the “stereotype” that blacks are cheap tippers...”
Everybody knows its true, knows there are exceptions, but it is to the point where waiters and waitresses will leave certain establishments if they become too Black. It is not based upon prejudice. It is based upon personal day to day experience.
Gypsies as a group are right down there with pirates in reputation and for good reason.
Man, you dont want to play blackjack with her at the table. She has the most talented fingers in the world, chip wise. lol
Otherwise, she was a perfectly decent type.
It can be difficult to get a job when your parents broke your legs so that you’d be more “pitiful” when your parents send you out to beg. And if you DON’T bring home money, you get even more harsh treatment.
There are eyes/cameras everywhere in the casinos in Vegas. Even the small off the road joints have customers remove their sunglasses when they enter.
America is the only place still using the bogus classification “caucasian” for white people.
I intercepted a Gypsy kid targeting my husband in Rome. She must have been 5 or 6 years old. What Gypsies do with their children (train them for crime) would be considered child abuse in this country.
> The Soros Foundation Romania? George is all over the
> planet, isn’t he.
Except in Russia where the authorities have a warrant for his arrest for currency tampering.
Soros made untold billions selling the Rouble short when it fell from $0.17 to $0.03.
Re Madonna: It is the height of arrogance to lecture her audience who didn't come to listen to her moralizing but to hear her sing. And like so many of these Hollywood airheads, she has no idea what she is talking about.
Actually, the pit bosses love these girls at the tables. They dress provocatively and flirt with the guys, all night long. It keeps conventioneers playing longer. The girls and the casinos are basically doing the same thing, extracting money from tourists. It took me a while to figure this out.
“The group says Roma face “overt discrimination” in housing, health care and education.”
In Slovakia many gypsies get free apartments from the city council which they usually trash and have an “open toilet” in one corner of the room, they get free health care and education yet too often they fail to send their kids to school instead they send their kids to beg and steal on the streets. So where is the “overt discrimination?’
Madonna will discover that this culture is unfathomable, impenetrable, because it has at its heart a celebration of the virtue of swindling the "Gaijo". It's not immoral to them any more than hunting for meat is immoral to us. And Gypsies are rarely violent in their predations.
A Gypsy might well find these words that offend you to be complementary, if they cared at all for the expressed opinions. They are not a grievance group for the simple reason that you are "unclean" to them and they would not delve into the kind of community organizing that would be necessary to make them a grievance group.
I know nothing about European Gypsies, but when I was growing up in a small U.S. town and anyone spotted Gypsies entering town, the word went out instantly. All the businesses and homes locked their doors and Gypsies were not allowed to enter. They had a reputation (and well deserved) as being artful thieves. Simply put, they sustained themselves through theft.
Weren’t the Gypsies in this country conmen/Grifters.
Aren’t they the ones who come to ask if I want my driveway *oiled* down?
I can’t stand those guys.
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