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Safari Crashes on Hotair.com (Mac help)

Posted on 08/30/2009 11:54:58 AM PDT by Feline_AIDS

Mac Freepers I need your help!

Every time I load hotair.com, Safari loads 3/4 of the way, then crashes.

These are the plug-ins I have now:

-MoveNetworks Quantum Media Player -iPhotoPhotocast -Java Plug-in for Cocoa -Shockwave for Director -QuickTime Plug-in 7.6 -PhotoCenterPlugin1.1.2.2 -Quartz Composer Plug-In -Flip4Mac Windows Media Plugin 2.2.1 -Flip4Mac Windows Media Web Plugin 2.2.1 -Verified Download Plugin -Shockwave Flash -Microsoft Office Live Plug-in -QuickTime Plug-In 7.6 -DivX Web Player

I already tried "resetting" Safari in the menu.

Please help! Safari works so well, but I always forget and go to hotair and then it crashes all my windows. Firefox works fine, but I'm just not crazy about it.

Thanks!


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; computerhelp; help; hotair; mac

1 posted on 08/30/2009 11:54:59 AM PDT by Feline_AIDS
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To: Feline_AIDS

Try Firefox. Very stable at most all web sites.


2 posted on 08/30/2009 12:00:31 PM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("The rights of the people have been bartered for promises of office". ~Andrew Jackson)
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To: LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot

OOps. Didn’t see your last sentence. Still, work with Firefox a little more. It’s the one I lke most. Also, try OMNIWEB.


3 posted on 08/30/2009 12:01:50 PM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("The rights of the people have been bartered for promises of office". ~Andrew Jackson)
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To: LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot

I am having the same problems with some sites but I use Safari on a Compatible so I expect some glitches.

Firefox works better in most places but it is so so slow to load and I hate it.


4 posted on 08/30/2009 12:03:13 PM PDT by momto6 (HTML is kinda cool)
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To: momto6

Hmm. Doesnt seem so slow to me on an older G4 and my newer MacBook Pro laptop. Do a search for Omniweb. Very well done and stable.


5 posted on 08/30/2009 12:07:43 PM PDT by LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot ("The rights of the people have been bartered for promises of office". ~Andrew Jackson)
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To: Feline_AIDS

Safari seems to have some issues related to handling cookies, from what I’ve found from testing sites. No problems with IE and Firefox, but cookies would not be written out properly with Safari. Found some JavaScript that was at fault and when we modified the code, we got it to work with Safari.

But cookie handling is one area with Safari than can be touchy.


6 posted on 08/30/2009 12:15:11 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Feline_AIDS

I can go on hotair.com with Safari and works just fine. I’m on a Mac as well.


7 posted on 08/30/2009 12:18:22 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE CENTRAL AIR CONDITIONING!)
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To: Feline_AIDS; Swordmaker
You were saying ...

Every time I load hotair.com, Safari loads 3/4 of the way, then crashes.

I loaded it just fine. I did the main page. Is there another page that is crashing for you or is it the main page?

You might also try creating a new account, and then try out Safari to Hot Air and see what happens on the newly created account. You can delete the account after you're finished with it, if you want.

You don't include the information as to what computer, what operating system (and version) and so on... so it might be difficult for someone to help.

Have you tried the Apple Forums? They've got sections for different software there.

8 posted on 08/30/2009 12:18:25 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Feline_AIDS

My Mac PPC on OSX10.5 crashes on safari when i attempt to load Hot air.com. I use Comino which works fine for me. Safari is a highwaty for hackers any way.
barbra ann


9 posted on 08/30/2009 12:18:55 PM PDT by barb-tex (Regardless of what you may have heard Sarah is not gone!)
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To: Feline_AIDS
You think that's bad, you should try the Mosaic browser with Hot Air. :O)


10 posted on 08/30/2009 12:19:06 PM PDT by library user
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To: Feline_AIDS

Seriously, though, in order for embedded vid’s to show up on Hot Air, I have to use IE. With Firefox, I just get blank space where the vid should be.


11 posted on 08/30/2009 12:20:25 PM PDT by library user
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To: Feline_AIDS

Install “Snow Leopard”.


12 posted on 08/30/2009 12:22:31 PM PDT by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: barb-tex; Swordmaker
You were saying ...

Safari is a highwaty for hackers any way.

Ummm... you ought to try being on the Windows platform then.... it would be like the "Space Shuttle" for viruses, compared to Safari and Macintosh (which would be like being on a tricycle for viruses...) ... LOL....

13 posted on 08/30/2009 12:24:40 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

Thanks for the response. I’m just a lurker at hotair, so I’m never logged in.

I’m trying the main page.

It’s a 2007 macbook pro. 2.4 Gh intel, os 10.5.6

I suspect it’s some incompatibility with cookies or plug-ins because it used to work fine. Though I may have done a software update and that’s what caused it.

Thanks, I’ll try apple forums too.


14 posted on 08/30/2009 12:31:28 PM PDT by Feline_AIDS (Boop boop hoop yeah!)
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To: Feline_AIDS

Make sure you try creating that fresh and new account, first and see if you still have the problem. If you do, then it may be something more complicated — but if you don’t have the problem, then there’s something that got corrupted in one of those files and/or plug-ins or an incompatibility with one of the plug-ins. But, it’s unlikely to be an incompatibility because it wouldn’t be incompatible after you’ve been using it all this time, since you haven’t added anything new. It sounds more like a corrupted file of some sort...

That’s what the new account will do for you... allow you to test out that theory...


15 posted on 08/30/2009 12:38:16 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: BunnySlippers

Ditto - mac mini 10.5.8, Safari 4.03 (5531.9). Maybe its all those plugins? Try deleting them all see how it works, then add back one by one to find the problem.


16 posted on 08/30/2009 12:47:56 PM PDT by PIF
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To: Feline_AIDS

I’m using an iBook G4 with the latest version of Safari (4.0.3), and OS 10.4.11 installed, and have no problems loading Hotair.com.


17 posted on 08/30/2009 1:20:33 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 50mm; 6SJ7; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; Aliska; altair; ...
Fellow Freeper "Feline AIDS" is having a problem loading Hotair.com on Safari... PING!

Works for me on Snow Leopard and Safari 4.0.3 (6531.9)... how about the rest of you? Can anyone duplicate AIDS problem?


Mac HELP call Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

18 posted on 08/30/2009 1:55:13 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

Fine for me with Safari Version 4.0.3 (6531.9)


19 posted on 08/30/2009 2:00:14 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Obama-care won't pull Grandma's plug - because Grandma won't be plugged in under Obama-care.)
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To: Feline_AIDS

MacBook Pro here. No problems with hotair.com. Have you installed software updates from Software Update? Latest version of Safari?


20 posted on 08/30/2009 2:00:38 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Feline_AIDS
I’m trying the main page.

It sounds like you might be hanging on loading one of the ads. I carefully watched the load on my iMac and the content, format, etc., are all loaded before the 3/4 point. Everything after that is ad content. They do have a couple of frenetic flash animations going that start loading about then.

21 posted on 08/30/2009 2:02:36 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Feline_AIDS
It’s a 2007 macbook pro. 2.4 Gh intel, os 10.5.6

What version of Safari?

22 posted on 08/30/2009 2:05:17 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Feline_AIDS

Works fine here. Using Safari 4.0.3, which was probably installed when I installed Snow Leopard Friday. (Which rocks, btw.) If you haven’t run Software Update recently, maybe you should.

Gotta say, I generally use Firefox. Prefer its user interface, is all.

My plug-ins:

Google Earth Plug-in

Shockwave Flash 10.0 r23

Java Switchable Plug-in (Cocoa) — from file

Silverlight Plug-In 3.0.40624.0

Web Kit Google Gadget Plug-In

QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.3

Flip4Mac Windows Media Web Plugin 2.2.2

Quartz Composer Plug-In

LogMeIn Plugin 1.0.0.298

Flip4Mac Windows Media Plugin 2.2.2


23 posted on 08/30/2009 2:06:23 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Cheney/Palin 2012!)
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To: Feline_AIDS

Current version of 10.5 is 10.5.8 - you need to update. I suspect you probably need to upgrade to the latest version of Safari as well.


24 posted on 08/30/2009 2:06:50 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: LimaLimaMikeFoxtrot

FireFox does have some really ugly problems with JavaScript these days; the TreeMonkey Java engine in FireFox grenades on a regular basis.


25 posted on 08/30/2009 2:10:32 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Feline_AIDS

You might give a look in the Console.app to see if an error log has been written out. Console.app is located in in the Applications/Utilities folder.

Following a crash, look at messages in the “All messages” section of LOG DATABASE QUERIES. You might also check the LOG FILES/Library/Logs/CrashReporter and LOG FILES/Library/Logs/HangReporter directories using Console.app for any Safari related log messages.

Once you find a suspect message, googling the error message will often lead you to sites providing hints what the problem may be.


26 posted on 08/30/2009 2:15:49 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd: ON)
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To: Star Traveler

I went on line with my PC one time with out a firewall and lasted for 6 minutes before fatal infection. Ome reason I use a MAC.
barbra ann


27 posted on 08/30/2009 2:24:27 PM PDT by barb-tex (Regardless of what you may have heard Sarah is not gone!)
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To: Feline_AIDS

I have Safari and Firefox and it is true that sometimes one works better than another for a particular site. Just have them both in your dock and use when appropriate.


28 posted on 08/30/2009 2:25:49 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Feline_AIDS

Safari opens it just fine for me, I did an upgrade with Snow, no problems and I have 500 gig of apps on a system that hasn’t had a clean install since OS X 10.2


29 posted on 08/30/2009 2:45:38 PM PDT by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: Feline_AIDS

I don’t know Safari but most browsers utilize a cache for html and images. I have had crap in the cache for IE and even Firefox that would cause some pages to crash.

Before you do a lot of reinstalls I would try clearing the cache.


30 posted on 08/30/2009 3:09:47 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr; All

Thanks all!

I upgraded to Safari 4 and it works great! I love those apple computer liberals and their products.

FA


31 posted on 08/30/2009 3:53:25 PM PDT by Feline_AIDS (Boop boop hoop yeah!)
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To: Feline_AIDS

Make sure you run Font Book and resolve duplicate fonts....

Hoss


32 posted on 08/30/2009 5:06:29 PM PDT by HossB86
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To: Feline_AIDS

I’m glad it worked out for ya. Ain’t computers fun?!


33 posted on 08/30/2009 5:35:31 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Swordmaker

Works fine in 10.5.8 (SL arrives tomorrow whoohoo!!!) with Safari 4.0.3 (5531.9). Clicked on many links at Hot Air had no problems.


34 posted on 08/30/2009 5:47:59 PM PDT by TheStickman
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To: Feline_AIDS

Some machine specs, as well as a confirmation of OS and Safari versions would be helpful.

Here is what I am on:

PowerMacintosh Dual 1.8Ghz G5
5GB Ram
OS X 10.5.8 (all the latest updates done)
Safari Version 4.0.3 (5531.9)

Hotair.com seems to load ok for me, though it does eventually get “Canceled opening the page” down at the bottom of the window (can’t figure out why).

But no crash.


35 posted on 08/30/2009 9:35:01 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: Feline_AIDS
Thanks for the response. I’m just a lurker at hotair, so I’m never logged in.

I think the poster meant to create a new account on your computer and log in via that new account - and try hotair.com in Safari. That would pretty cleanly demonstrate if the problem is a preference or user file causing the crash.

36 posted on 08/30/2009 9:43:31 PM PDT by TheBattman (Pray for our country...)
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To: Swordmaker

I am hearing about a LOT of problems with some Office apps as well as Photoshop / CS 4 with snow leopard.


37 posted on 08/31/2009 1:16:53 AM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Yehuda
I am hearing about a LOT of problems with some Office apps as well as Photoshop / CS 4 with snow leopard.


Adobe rubberstamps (only) CS4 for Snow Leopard

CS3? It's not 'not supported' [But, according to all reports, CS3 runs fine under Snow Leopard — Swordmaker]
By Rik Myslewski in San Francisco

Posted in Software & Security, 26th August 2009 22:41 GMT Adobe has announced that its Creative Suite 4 (CS4) has been tested and cleared for use on Apple's new Snow Leopard operating system. But it has no plans to test the compatibility of earlier versions.

If you own CS3 or earlier, according to an Adobe FAQ (PDF), you're on your own. "Older versions of Adobe creative software were not included in our testing efforts," the company says. "You may therefore experience a variety of installation, stability, and reliability issues for which there is no resolution."

But Adobe Photoshop's principal product manager Jack Nack is working hard to assure users that this isn't a big deal. "No one said anything about CS3 being 'not supported' on Snow Leopard. The plan, however, is not to take resources away from other efforts (e.g. porting Photoshop to Cocoa) in order to modify 2.5-year-old software in response to changes Apple makes in the OS foundation."

In response to one of the voluminous comments to his blog posting, Nack added: "I'd frankly be shocked if people at Adobe & Apple really hadn't tested CS3 on 10.6. I *think* it's just some corporate conservatism at work here, and Adobe doesn't want to over-promise anything."

Our testing showed that Adobe Photoshop CS - a six-year-old version - ran with no problems on Apple's latest big cat. But maybe we were just lucky, and some obscure action such as moving the Stroke Length slider in Filters > Brush Strokes > Crosshatch could have caused it to blow up in our face.

To Jack Nack, software testing is, as he puts it, a "zero-sum game" of managing finite resources: "There are only so many hours in the day. Time spent testing/changing an older version to work around changes in a future OS is time not spent addressing customer requests, taking advantage of that OS's new features, etc."

Some of those scarce hours-in-a-day are now being used to develop CS5 - which, as we reported earlier this month, may cause another torrent of comments on Nack's blog when it appears, seeing as how it - like Snow Leopard - will run only on Intel-based Macs

In other Adobe-app news, CNNMoney.com reports that Adobe Photoshop Elements is incompatible with Snow Leopard. That report, however, doesn't specify which version of Elements was tested, and the source of that info, snowleopard.wikidot.com was "unavailable due to emergency maintenance" as of 2:00pm Pacific Daylight Time.

We could take some cheap shot about the Wikidot site being written in Adobe Dreamweaver CS3 and running on Snow Leopard Server, but The Reg has more class than that. ®


Adobe PhotoShopCS version 8.0 works fine, using Rosetta.

PCWorld reports: "While Microsoft Office 2008 runs fine, and Microsoft Office 2004 works under Rosetta, there is no report yet on the older Microsoft Office:X." I can attest that Microsoft Word and Excel from Microsoft Office for Mac:X works perfectly using Rosetta. I did not bother upgrading my Office to anything later because that version did everything I needed.

In addition, from MacRumors:/


Microsoft Declares Office 2008 Ready for Snow Leopard, Most 'Spaces' Issues Fixed

Microsoft Macintosh Business Unit senior product manager Mike Tedesco announces that Office 2008 has been tested with Mac OS X Snow Leopard and declared ready for use. Importantly, Tedesco also notes that most of the issues related to Office 2008's interaction with Apple's "Spaces" feature have been fixed in Snow Leopard through the combined efforts of Apple and Microsoft.

Q. Are there any differences with Office 2008 for Mac running on Snow Leopard vs. Leopard?
A. Office 2008 for Mac is Snow Leopard tested and ready! Best of all, with the launch of Snow Leopard, the bulk of the Word 2008 Spaces issues have been fixed after our collaborative efforts to address the problem.
NOTE: Older non-UNIVERSAL apps require the installation of Rosetta, which is an optional component on the installation of Snow Leopard. Many complaints were heard from people who had neglected to mark the checkbox that they wanted to install Rosetta on the Snow Leopard installation. Once they corrected that oversight, the problems went away.

Also, I think that most of the reports of problems were the results of the unofficial Wiki list that was being collected of what worked and what didn't work under Snow Leopard. For a couple of days before release, both Photoshop CS4 and Microsoft Office were listed in the unknown and untested categories. They are no longer. The note on Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac was that ONE user had reported problems with slow opening and "lagging" there-after.

38 posted on 08/31/2009 2:21:00 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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