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How much omega-3 fatty acid do we need to prevent cardiovascular disease?
Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology ^ | Aug 31, 2009 | Unknown

Posted on 08/31/2009 11:16:43 AM PDT by decimon

New research in the FASEB Journal identifies the 'Goldilocks dose' of DHA that is 'just right' for preventing oxidative stress in men

A team of French scientists have found the dose of DHA (docosahexaenoic acid) that is "just right" for preventing cardiovascular disease in healthy men. In a research report appearing in the September 2009 print issue of The FASEB Journal (http://www.fasebj.org), the scientists show that a 200 mg dose of DHA per day is enough to affect biochemical markers that reliably predict cardiovascular problems, such as those related to aging, atherosclerosis, and diabetes. This study is the first to identify how much DHA is necessary to promote optimal heart health.

"This study shows that regularly consuming small amounts of DHA is likely to improve the health status of people, especially in regards to cardiovascular function," said Michel Lagarde, co-author of the study.

To determine the optimal dose of DHA, Lagarde and colleagues examined the effects of increasing doses of DHA on 12 healthy male volunteers between ages of 53 and 65. These men consumed doses of DHA at 200, 400, 800, and 1600 mg per day for two weeks for each dose amount, with DHA being the only omega-3 fatty acid in their diet. Blood and urine samples were collected before and after each dose and at eight weeks after DHA supplementation stopped. The researchers then examined these samples for biochemical markers indicating the effects of each dose on the volunteers.

"Now that we have a very good idea about how much DHA is just right, the next step is to try it out in an expanded clinical trial that involves many more people," said Gerald Weissmann, M.D., Editor-in-Chief of The FASEB Journal. "Until then, I'll stick with tasty foods that contain DHA, like fish, rather than getting a quick fatty-acid fix at the local vitamin store."

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Details: Nicolas Guillot, Emilie Caillet, Martine Laville, Catherine Calzada, Michel Lagarde, and Evelyne Véricel. Increasing intakes of the long-chain -3 docosahexaenoic acid: effects on platelet functions and redox status in healthy men. FASEB J. 2009 23: 2909-2916. http://www.fasebj.org/cgi/content/abstract/23/9/2909


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: diet; nutrition

1 posted on 08/31/2009 11:16:43 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

I take 1000 to 2000 daily. It dropped my Tryglicerides from 300 to 160 in 6 months.


2 posted on 08/31/2009 11:20:47 AM PDT by irishtenor (Beer. God's way of making sure the Irish don't take over the world.)
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To: irishtenor

Really? I should do this. Thanks.


3 posted on 08/31/2009 11:21:36 AM PDT by spyone (ridiculum)
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To: irishtenor

200mg is a very low dose. I don’t know what the equivalent would be, but I would think eating sashimi a couple times per week would be many times more than this.


4 posted on 08/31/2009 11:23:25 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Is it a coincidence that Obama's vacation of relaxation and meditation coincides with Ramadan?)
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To: spyone

I haven’t kept up since I left the fish biz 7 years ago, but at that time the consensus was to try and eat actual oily fish rather than the Omega supplements.


5 posted on 08/31/2009 11:24:24 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not an Obama "Administration"....it's a "Regime")
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To: spyone

Let me know how it comes out. Worked for me.


6 posted on 08/31/2009 11:26:33 AM PDT by irishtenor (Beer. God's way of making sure the Irish don't take over the world.)
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To: nikos1121

Yep. My pills come in 1000mg doses.


7 posted on 08/31/2009 11:27:09 AM PDT by irishtenor (Beer. God's way of making sure the Irish don't take over the world.)
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To: ErnBatavia

I read free range chicken eggs are high in Omega 3. I hope so, I eat enough of them. Hoepfully it fights off my beer drinking, cigar smoking ways.


8 posted on 08/31/2009 11:28:03 AM PDT by roofgoat
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To: decimon

Bookmarked. Thanks for posting.


9 posted on 08/31/2009 11:28:59 AM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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To: irishtenor
Yep. My pills come in 1000mg doses.

Mine are 1200mg with 360mg omega-3. DHA and EPA are listed but not as to amounts.

10 posted on 08/31/2009 11:32:11 AM PDT by decimon
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To: roofgoat
This is the best fish oil, certified Mercury, PCB and Lead free by indpendent labs. This is a big deal, believe me, you can poison yourself with half the crap that is on the market.



I know alot about these issues.

Spectrum Fish Oil contains the omega-3 fatty acids EPA and DHA. EPA supports heart health, reduces inflammation and improves cellular integrity, while DHA supports memory and nervous system functioning.*

Our Fish Oil comes from non-threatened species of wild-caught, small, plankton-feeding fish (anchovies, mackerel and sardines) that are low on the food chain. Harvesting these types of fish also ensures that our oil tests below acceptable limits of harmful contaminants set by the Council for Responsible Nutrition and other advisory agencies. Spectrum uses only the purest fish oil with a naturally occurring ratio of 18:12 EPA to DHA. Convenient 1000 mg softgels.

You can buy this at any Whole Foods store or order it online HERE I take two 1000 mg pills per day ...
11 posted on 08/31/2009 11:35:00 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: decimon; All
Here's something you might find of interest:

http://www.escardio.org/communities/eacpr/lifestyle-cvd-literature/volume10/pages/page24.aspx

Daily exercise training may lead to better long-term, event-free survival than stent angioplasty in patients with stable coronary artery disease (CAD) who receive optimal medical treatment, a pilot study suggests.

Coronary revascularization using percutaneous techniques is widely used in the treatment of CAD patients, the researchers note.

They add that, in patients with stable CAD, regular physical exercise training has been shown to improve functional work capacity, myocardial perfusion, and 1-year, event-free survival.

To investigate its long-term benefits further, Sven Moebius-Winkler (Leipzig Heart Center, Germany) and colleagues randomly assigned 101 stable CAD patients to stent angioplasty or conservative management with a strategy that included a daily exercise program.

Both sets of patients received optimised medical standard therapy, the team reported at the European Society of Cardiology EuroPRevent 2009 meeting in Stockholm, Sweden. Clinical status was assessed initially and at follow-up visits using the Canadian Cardiovascular Society classification.

The primary composite endpoint was death from any cause, nonfatal myocardial infarction, cerebrovascular accident, need for any revascularization procedure due to unstable angina, and hospitalization for worsening angina.

Event-free survival at 5 years was significantly higher in the 51 patients receiving exercise training compared with the 50 stented patients, at 63% versus 40%, respectively. During this period, 36 cardiovascular events occurred in 19 patients from the training group compared with 55 events in 30 patients from the stent group.

Based on their findings, the researchers concluded: “At long-term follow up of 5 years, daily exercise training additionally to optimal medical treatment in stable CAD patients leads to a better event free survival rate compared with stent angioplasty.”

12 posted on 08/31/2009 11:35:12 AM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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To: decimon

I have some 500mg Krill oil that has 90mg DHA, if that helps at all.


13 posted on 08/31/2009 11:35:27 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette (Proud Clinton-hater since 1998.)
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To: decimon

That’s good to know. Thanks for the post.


14 posted on 08/31/2009 11:36:13 AM PDT by LucyJo
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To: irishtenor

1000mg of fish oil only contains about 120 mg of DHA.


15 posted on 08/31/2009 11:37:04 AM PDT by csmusaret (If you like this economy, keep voting for Donkeys.)
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To: LucyJo

L-Argnine is an amino acid that can clear clogged arteries, google it, not recommended though for those that have had a heart attack already, it’s the modern wonder of of the heart.


16 posted on 08/31/2009 11:38:31 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

Spelled it wrong, that’s “L-Arginine” I take 500 mg a day, but take breaks from it.


17 posted on 08/31/2009 11:39:33 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

Did they say why it’s not recommended if one already had a heart attack?


18 posted on 08/31/2009 11:52:46 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: roofgoat
Have some karpfen blau...


19 posted on 08/31/2009 11:56:26 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Scythian
Thanks. Scanned an article about it.

Found this too:
"People with kidney disease and those who take ACE inhibitors or potassium sparing diuretics should not use supplemental L-arginine unless they are under professional supervision."

Anyone deciding to take it should probably do some reading first, as you suggest.

20 posted on 08/31/2009 11:58:07 AM PDT by LucyJo
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To: Scythian

Never mind - got my answer. Thanks for the info.


21 posted on 08/31/2009 11:58:16 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: decimon

Three words... Cod Liver Oil. You can buy it plain for “real men” or flavored.

Fish oils pills can and often do turn rancid and change to trans fats.


22 posted on 08/31/2009 12:03:09 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Good ("A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud)
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To: irishtenor

Then, according to this paper you and probably the majority of us who eat fish three or more times per week are over medicating or perhaps taking toxic doses.

If you google DHA dosages it’s common to recommend 2 to 3gms per day.

The case of aspirin may be similar. One would think that since heart disease seems to be a process of inflammation in the walls of the arteries, and since aspirin is a potent anti-inflammatory medicine, one would think that more is better, however researchers have found that there is a balance and that an 80mg is actually optimum, and there is no increased benefit the more you take.

(please see: http://cme.medscape.com/viewarticle/556309 )

So perhaps it’s the same with DHA. On the other hand, who the h*ll knows.

Also, I didn’t read the whole article, the DHA was given as a supplement or the equivalent in food? DHA is recommended together with Selenium, and Vit E. Was that brought up in the article?


23 posted on 08/31/2009 12:15:47 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Is it a coincidence that Obama's vacation of relaxation and meditation coincides with Ramadan?)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I roll my own


24 posted on 08/31/2009 12:25:05 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono
"I roll my own"

I picked this up at a used gar lot...


25 posted on 08/31/2009 12:32:56 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Wiping coffee from my screen.


26 posted on 08/31/2009 12:36:18 PM PDT by Sparko (Obama & czars: castrating Congress, perverting the Constitution, and emptying our wallets)
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To: decimon

Check out Heart Scan Blog by Dr. William Davis, a cardiologist who has been reducing atherosclerotic plaque in his patients. His recommendations are: 1. elimination of all wheat, cornstarch & sugar in the diet; 2. high fat intake; 3. Slo-Niacin; 4. 3,000 mg/day fish oil.

http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/


27 posted on 08/31/2009 1:21:07 PM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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To: decimon

I take 2400 mg a day.


28 posted on 08/31/2009 1:24:09 PM PDT by blam
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To: decimon
"Mine are 1200mg with 360mg omega-3. DHA and EPA are listed but not as to amounts."

Hmmmm.

I read my bottle 'facts' after reading your comment. Here's what mine says:

Natural Fish Oil 2400 mg (2 softgels) --Total Omega 3 Fatty Acids (with EPA and DHA) 720 mg.

Looks like we have the same, I'm taking two softgels daily.

29 posted on 08/31/2009 1:33:02 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Looks like we have the same...

Except that mine lists the contents of one softgel. I've also been taking two daily. No obvious effect other than cats following me. ;-)

30 posted on 08/31/2009 1:45:51 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Madam Theophilus

Looks like another twist on a low-carb diet. I did very well on such a diet years ago. Lost my fat and both some low-glycemic (High-glycemic? A roller coaster, at any rate) and arthritic-like conditions.


31 posted on 08/31/2009 1:51:08 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
"No obvious effect other than cats following me. ;-)"

LOL. Click on my name and you'll see why the cats don't bother me.

32 posted on 08/31/2009 1:52:59 PM PDT by blam
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To: decimon

200 mg is very easy to get. A serving of fish, or one capsule of 1000mg Fish oil would be enough. Fish Oils are probably the most effective supplement sold today. One of the few that really have alot of research backing them up. I take 6 capsules per day currently, but I am currently on a diet that happens to be low in fat, so these fish oils help me get the fat that I need.


33 posted on 08/31/2009 2:21:02 PM PDT by Paradox (ObamaCare = Logan's Run ; There is no Sanctuary!)
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To: Paradox
I take 6 capsules per day currently...

Do seagulls circle your house? ;-)

34 posted on 08/31/2009 2:26:41 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

I have used 1000 mg fish oil caps but I’m now taking two 1300 mg capsules of flaxseed oil. You can get the Flaxseed oil caps at Sams Club or Costco.


35 posted on 08/31/2009 4:28:23 PM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: decimon

EPA/DHA has health benefits in addition to heart health issues. Health is more than heart health.

200 mg is PUNY.


36 posted on 08/31/2009 4:30:02 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Mogollon
You can get the Flaxseed oil caps at Sams Club or Costco

I bought some Smart Balance 50/50 Butter Blend. It has some flaxseed oil.

According to the label, a serving is one tablespoon. One serving has 320mg of ALA Omega-3 and 32mg of EPA/DHA Omega-3. Not that I actually understand that but it does look good.

37 posted on 08/31/2009 5:24:47 PM PDT by decimon
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
200 mg is PUNY.

What's the Charles Atlas dose?

38 posted on 08/31/2009 5:26:04 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

“What’s the Charles Atlas dose?

Charles Atlas would INSIST on vitamin D
blood levels at the optimum: between 50-99 ng/mL,
with no sand kicked around.

ampu


39 posted on 08/31/2009 6:23:02 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: decimon
Do seagulls circle your house? ;-)

Heh, not quite, but the fish burps can be horrible. I sometimes substitute a fish oil gel with a flax seed oil gel..

40 posted on 08/31/2009 7:13:33 PM PDT by Paradox (ObamaCare = Logan's Run ; There is no Sanctuary!)
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To: irishtenor; nikos1121

“My pills come in 1000mg doses.”

In that 1000 mg, how much is DHA, how much is EPA? You might be getting only 200 mg DHA.


41 posted on 08/31/2009 7:50:38 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

I checked, 300mg.


42 posted on 09/01/2009 5:57:49 AM PDT by irishtenor (Beer. God's way of making sure the Irish don't take over the world.)
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To: irishtenor

“300mg.”

That is good. And it probably has more EPA than DHA. Both are supposed to be good, but for different things.


43 posted on 09/01/2009 7:49:57 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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