Skip to comments.Dogs descended from wolf pack on Yangtze river
Posted on 09/04/2009 2:58:00 AM PDT by decimon
Today's dogs are all descended from a pack of wolves tamed 16,000 years ago on the shores of the Yangtze river, according to new research.
It was previously known that the birthplace of the dog was eastern Asia but historians were not able to be more precise than that.
However, now researchers have made a number of new discoveries about the history of man's best friend - including that the dog appeared about 16,000 years ago south of the Yangtze river in China.
It has also been discovered that even though the dog has a single geographical origin it descends from a "large number of animals - at least several hundred tamed wolves, probable even more"...
Peter Savolainen, a biology researcher at the Royal Institute of Technology (KTH) in Stockholm and who led the study with a team of Chinese researches, said: "For the first time in world history it is possible to provide a detailed picture of the dog, with its birthplace, point in time, and how many wolves were tamed.
"This is a considerably more specific date and birthplace than had previously been put forward.
"Our earlier findings from 2002 have not been fully accepted, but with our new data there will be greater acceptance.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
I wonder if they know what their names were and if they had their rabies shots.
hide your beagle,Vick’s an eagle
I thought they came from two off of Noahs Ark.
dumb question. does this mean every breed descended from wolves and those with different mutations led to the first breeds of dogs?
Irony is some Chinese food descends from dogs.
Well, I'm glad that's finally cleared up!
Until next week.
Being half dog I believe I can speak with authority on this matter, some dogs came from Asia, others came from Ireland...the more noble breeds anyway.
So the book “Bond of the Fire” actually happened in China?
I’ll have to tell my dog.
In celebration, I am going to buy my dogs a couple of eggrolls.
OK, now tell me where the original Ants came from and why are they all over the globe. A Chihuahua came from a wolf? I better watch out when I pet one.
Two problems with claiming China as the origin of dogs. First China was colonized rather late into the neolithic well after the domestication of dogs. Second, just because the wolf pack (Canis lupus chanco) is found in China now doesn’t mean they didn’t migrate there from somewhere else.
Case in point, Yellowstone Park where the present wolves are no relation to the previous ones and are in fact a different subspecies than those wolves.
>>>Today’s dogs are all descended from a pack of wolves tamed 16,000 years ago
Well this is only a ruff estimate of dogification.
How many bitten hands do you think it took to domesticate the wolf?
With me, one. Then get new wolf.
Well, in a way. That was a genetic mutation. The chihuahua got all the bad genes. Kinda like Danny DeVito in Twins...
..and they still haven’t gotten past backside sniffing and rug piddling.
Thanks decimon.The most recent common ancestor of all humanity lived just a few thousand years ago, according to a computer model of our family tree. Researchers have calculated that the mystery person, from whom everyone alive today is directly descended, probably lived around 1,500 BC in eastern Asia. [Human populations are tightly interwoven]Neither of these is proved, and this one I'm quoting here isn't even plausible.
· Discover · Nat Geographic · Texas AM Anthro News · Yahoo Anthro & Archaeo · Google ·
· The Archaeology Channel · Excerpt, or Link only? · cgk's list of ping lists ·
Still living Wild in the bottom land swamps and forests of the Southeastern United States.
Genetic (mitochondrial DNA) testing being performed at the University of South Carolina, College of Science and Mathematics, indicates that these dogs, related to the earliest domesticated dogs, are the remnant descendants of the feral pariah canids who came across the Bering land mass 8,000 to 11,000 years ago as hunting companions to the ancestors of the Native Americans.
Maybe they should be called Yangtze Yellers.
My dog’s not a wolf...he’s a shark...a counter shark...if I let him.
Lacy is a sofa shark, she likes toes.
That's because most of us don't date outside our species...
Great idea - But take it from me... leave him outside for the night. Especially if sweet and sour sauce is involved...
My dog is so clever that he scored a couple of dog bones from the bank today, and he didn’t even go there! His reputation precedes him!
Now, if I could only teach him to ask for money, I’d be all set.
lol - when our rottweiler was a little puppy he’d eat just about anything out of my hand...
now that he’s a grown puppy he doesn’t have a taste for oregano and basil anymore. all he wants is meat. he’s a good dog. :-)
According to Answers.com, Old Yeller is a Blackmouth Cur, aka, Southern Cur, Yellow Blackmouth Cur, American Blackmouth Cur, Red Blackmouth Cur, Ladner Blackmouth Cur, Ladner Yellow Blackmouth Cur.
A cur, at any rate. ;-)
So, um, this means all dogs are probably spies for China? Sniffing out our secrets?
What a devious long term plan they made there.
My new pup (Ozzie Shep.) is a terrible mooch and plays up the puppy dog eyes thing... One time to the drive up window, and I had to bring him in for all the girls to cuddle... Ever since, there is a handful of biscuits for Chewy every time. Such a player, he is... :D
My mom’s chihuahua was always given treats when he was driven through the drive-through lane, too-only the tellers would always ask,”Is that a dog?” first. Way to crush a chihuahua’s pride and dignity !
Maybe there were sharks in the river that bred into this wolf lineage.
BTW...why didn’t you answer your phone? I tried to call you.
:’) I’d send a link in FReepmail, but it *may* be too offensive... there’s some mighty sick stuff out there on the web, and I found this one while looking for something I vaguely remembered, probably for one of the lists around here; and when I saw it, I almost choked to death laughing at it, even while I was recoiling from it.
You found a picture of Laz???
Or 112,000 in dog years.
>>”...at least several hundred tamed wolves...”
There MUST be more to this story. Taming one wolf would be extremely arduous, and time consuming. They would have had to be kept separate from each other. “A pack” of “several hundred” is wildly improbable.
A pack of a few feral dogs just killed two people, here in America. “Several hundred” semi-domesticated wolves?