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Weekly Gardening Thread – 2009 Vol.16 – September 04
Free Republic | 9-4-2009 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 09/04/2009 4:00:01 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232

Good morning to all of you gardeners. A couple of FReepers have sent me alerts to threads posted on FR that many of you gardeners might find informative or interesting. I have posted links to them below the Gardening Banner. Thanks to Freepers tubebender and Califreak.


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1 posted on 09/04/2009 4:00:02 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; billhilly; Alkhin; ...
Ping to the Weekly Gardening Ping List.

I hope all of you will stop by.

This is typically a low volume ping list. Once a week for the thread and every once in a while for other FR threads posted that might be of interest.

If you would like to be added to or removed from the list please let me know by FreepMail or by posting to me.

2 posted on 09/04/2009 4:00:56 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Morning,

I went by yesterday and had a bumper crop of peppers. Largest in size and volume of the year. Tomatoes are thinned out and slowing down. I already pulled the squash and eggplant and will pull the old peppers, strawberries and one of the tomatoes tomorrow.

We planted our lettuce and green seeds yesterday and expect to transplant in a week or so.


3 posted on 09/04/2009 4:07:32 AM PDT by doodad
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To: Red_Devil 232

HR2749 The Food and Safety Enhancement Act coming up for VOTE in SENATE. BEWARE THE RESULTS!

Good Morning RD, thanks for reminder on HR2749..

what a summer !

In WNC daily rain keeps tomatoes scare, been rough sledding .


4 posted on 09/04/2009 4:10:06 AM PDT by Eagle50AE (Pray for our Armed Forces.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thank you for the ping.


5 posted on 09/04/2009 4:14:09 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Eagle50AE

Weird summer...many in area had tomatoes wiped out by blight, but I am up to my ears in them. Loaded with salsa; and wife will be taking her first shot at making her own sauce this weekend...hot peppers coming on strong. We have already gone through our first homemade pumpkin pie; others have yet to even harvest pumpkins. G-d Almighty has been with us this year...


6 posted on 09/04/2009 4:17:25 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: doodad
I have pulled my squash and eggplants also. I love eggplant but doubt I will plant them next year. I also pulled my Anaheim peppers
7 posted on 09/04/2009 4:19:10 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

It was that wet cool Spring that did them in. Too weak to fight off the powdery mildew and bugs. Everybody in the garden had to give up except for those that grew from seed and had later harvests. Lesson learned. So I will pay close attention to the weather next Spring.


8 posted on 09/04/2009 4:31:22 AM PDT by doodad
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To: Red_Devil 232

Morning, Red, since you mention eggplant, I ran across an eggplant dish in a buffet resturant recently. I thought that it was lasagna, as I piled plenty on my plate, then I saw the little homemade tag that said eggplant caserole. Well, it was very good, and I have located a recipe for a similar dish that includes mushrooms(optional) also. I haven’t tried it yet, but I think that it will copy the resturant very closely.

http://www.cooks.com/rec/doc/0,1935,155180-249193,00.html

RD


9 posted on 09/04/2009 4:51:58 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: Red_Devil 232

Your group might consider taking a stand against The Food Safety Enhancement ACT of 2009, since it will affect you:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2331751/posts?page=90


10 posted on 09/04/2009 5:01:29 AM PDT by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: Kackikat

Yes we have been following it. Thanks.


11 posted on 09/04/2009 5:07:11 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

All I have left is potatoes and sweet potatoes. They were planted mid June, so probably still a little early to harvest.

Tomatoes did better this year than last, but almost all were cherry tomato size, and those were the Early Girl and Better Boy varieties. So something was not right.

Did fairly well with pole beans. And got a couple of squash. Onions, carrots, cantaloupe and corn were basically a bust.

I’ll have to plan a little better and start earlier next year, and hopefully will have a larger planting bed ready.


12 posted on 09/04/2009 5:07:48 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Tatze
I wish I had the room to plant corn. I understand it takes at least 3-4 longish rows to get them pollinated right. Anybody know if that is right?
13 posted on 09/04/2009 5:15:25 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Well, I will probably be tilling my garden for some fall veggies today. It’s just so dry here and I pulled up all the summer garden last week.

We do have a chance for rain later today and through Monday, so that should help.


14 posted on 09/04/2009 5:27:40 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Jimmy Carter - now the second worst POTUS ever. BHO has #1 spot in his sights.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Add me to your ping list, please?


15 posted on 09/04/2009 5:37:23 AM PDT by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Corn?

I have health issues, so I barely get anything resembling gardening done and I don’t have room either.

I had a little bitty compost heap-about six by eight. On one of my lazier days, I did a weird three sisters thing there. I threw out some bean, squash & corn seeds in a random pattern & poked them into the compost just for the heck of it.

The plants took off like gangbusters at first. Later the squash got crowded out, but I got enough tiny ears of yummy corn and green beans to have for dinner a few times. I hand pollinated the corn. The ears were really small. I’m guessing because it was so crowded together.


16 posted on 09/04/2009 5:39:31 AM PDT by Califreak (If it's Astroturf, why are you trying to mow it?(sign seen at a town hall meeting))
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To: FrogMom

YOU HAVE

ADDED TO THE WEEKLY GARDENING PING LIST

17 posted on 09/04/2009 5:46:44 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Tatze

I have grown potatoes for the first time.

Also planted mid to late June. S, how is it that you decide they are ready to harvest?? Just pull some up and look at them?

Potatoe Newb in Central MD.


18 posted on 09/04/2009 5:57:33 AM PDT by incredulous joe ("Live Free or Fight")
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To: Red_Devil 232

That living architecture thread is cool. Sadly, The Reed People portions reminds me of a low-budget set from a Kevin Costner movie, LOL!


19 posted on 09/04/2009 6:10:37 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
In the Midwest, it's hummingbird feeder time. My feeding station stays busy as these little guys begin preparation for their forthcoming migration...many of them never survive the trip, so a boost for their nutrition right now is a step in the right direction.

The ones around here have no fear of humans, I guess, because of their speed. Any suspicious move and they can get out of Dodge instantly. They have a very high metabolism (1200 heartbeats per minute) and must constantly feed to stay alive.

A handfull of "hummers".

20 posted on 09/04/2009 6:41:09 AM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: capt. norm
Excellent photo with the hummingbirds!

My only contribution to this thread: I planted giant pumpkins a few months ago. One by one, they all died. I think my soil was too hot, as it was heavy with compost and manure. I tried to buffer it by raising the ph of the water I gave them, but to no avail.

This has bummed me out big time. Oh well, maybe next year.

21 posted on 09/04/2009 6:47:33 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: rightly_dividing

I have developed and interest in canning this year, due largely to this thread. I discovered that my wife has a small Cook’s Essentials pressure cooker/canner that holds 4 jars, but she has no manual with it. I searched online and Ebay for one, to no avvail. Could anyone out there advise me on some basics, like the adjustments on it, water level, and anything else that would help us? I was in the house the day that my mom’s blew up 35 years ago, so I know to be careful with these things.


22 posted on 09/04/2009 7:56:53 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: Red_Devil 232

I believe that’s true...probably at least four x four rows for sufficient pollenization. If you have a smaller area, just try 6 x 6 or even 8 x 8 plants.


23 posted on 09/04/2009 8:06:02 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not an Obama "Administration"....it's a "Regime")
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To: rightly_dividing

What model?


24 posted on 09/04/2009 8:11:27 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
I wish I had the room to plant corn. I understand it takes at least 3-4 longish rows to get them pollinated right. Anybody know if that is right?

I did a block of 16 in a 4 x 4 bed and got enough for dinner for a couple of weeks. It would have been more, but a woodchuck so large that when I saw it I thought it was a bearcub stripped the rest. I no longer blame my cats for not solving THAT vermin problem - he'd make three of any of them.

25 posted on 09/04/2009 8:14:53 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Red_Devil 232

on the bottom of the cooker it reads : 918640633 under that number it has 99:::::: it also has 6L being made in Spain, i’m sure that would be 6 liter

On Ebay, there is one that looks identicle to it at: http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Cooks-Essentials-Pressure-Cooker-NWOB-NLA_W0QQitemZ370226003699QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCookware_Bakeware?hash=item5633307ef3&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116


26 posted on 09/04/2009 8:22:51 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: Red_Devil 232
Morning RD! Wanted to let you know that canning the purple hull peas went well. I sliced some fresh jalapenos and put a few pieces in each quart jar. Garden is still going strong, but I'm not. My friends are free to come over and pick whatever they like and the rest will go to seed I guess.

We planted almost 4 acres of pumpkins and they look great. Hopefully we'll be able to sell them. We're going to put in a strawberry patch in October and see how that goes.

27 posted on 09/04/2009 8:48:34 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: rightly_dividing
Here are links to 2 pdf files containing manuals for Cook's Essentials pressure cookers. Neither are exactly the one that you have, but there may be enough information that you can use.

K97438_man.pdf

K37000_man.pdf

I inherited my late MIL's big ol' Mirro pressure cooker and have never had a manual. The first time I ever used it I followed the general instructions in the Ball Blue Book and everything worked fine. I've been using it ever since and I had never used a pressure cooker before. They all work basically the same, but have a couple of different way to exhaust excess steam.

Good luck!

28 posted on 09/04/2009 9:07:07 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: rightly_dividing
Does it look something like this?


29 posted on 09/04/2009 9:09:34 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

yes sir, that looks like it, jus a minor differance in the shape of the handle, but the controls look exactly the same, as does the shape of the pot, and the lid. I see that one has a differant name that I can not make out.


30 posted on 09/04/2009 9:25:59 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Thanks, I just thought that I knew how to scour the internet!!! :)


31 posted on 09/04/2009 9:34:33 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: rightly_dividing
Yes it is made by Fagor the model is Rapida. Notice the similar model numbers starting with 981 -------.

 

The Fagor RAPIDA Pressure Cooker line consists of the following models:

4 qt. pressure cooker (item #918011938) includes instruction manual with recipes.

6 qt. pressure cooker (item #918011947) includes instruction manual with recipes.

10 qt. pressure cooker / canner (item #918010289) includes instruction manual with recipes.

 

Here is their web page http://www.fagoramerica.com/cookware/pressure_cookers/rapida_line/rapida

On the right hand side near the botom is a link to Product Manuals. They are in a PDF format.

Hope this helps.

32 posted on 09/04/2009 9:44:57 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Whis I lived closer because I would be over and picking!


33 posted on 09/04/2009 9:47:27 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

My fingers and brain are not working together! 918


34 posted on 09/04/2009 9:50:59 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: rightly_dividing

My pleasure ... hope that you can use the info.


35 posted on 09/04/2009 10:07:59 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thanks a lot for the info. Fagor RAPIDA 6 qt appears to be the original mfg for the Cooks Essentials. The manual is 90+ pages and contains much info on cooking times, plus recipes. Again, thanks for the effort expended.


36 posted on 09/04/2009 10:15:02 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: rightly_dividing
Notice that the 10 quart is the only one they recomend for canning. I don't know why you could not use the 6 quart if your jars fit.

Anyone know why?

37 posted on 09/04/2009 10:23:01 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
A quick search online reveals that most pressure canners are 10qt or greater. But, Nextag has thae same Fagor cooker listed as a cooker/canner, Also they have a 4qt canner. But I suspect they overstating the units abilities.
http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/184-0165783-1078928?asin=B00004SUHV&AFID=Nextag_df&LNM=|B00004SUHV&CPNG=small%20appliances&ref=tgt_adv_XSN10001

It could be that there is not enough volume of water when filled with 4 jars to adequately process. Anyway, next canning project, I will use it, may only place 3 jars in it, though.

38 posted on 09/04/2009 11:07:13 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: rightly_dividing

I forgot to mention that in researching this subject online earlier, I came across a handy website that has downloadable user manuals for all kinds of items, from tools, cameras, appliances, etc.

http://www.manualsonline.com/


39 posted on 09/04/2009 11:16:33 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: Red_Devil 232

Checking in from high in the Colorado Rockies. I am about 15 miles east of the continental divide at about 8,500 ft elevation on a mountain ridge and right next to the Roosevelt National Forest. While gardening the lack of production due to cool temperature is made up for by having views of about 60-80 miles of the continental divide mountain range. It is September 4th and the 4th of july tomatos have not ripened yet. They got a slow start due to the cool summer, but are now loaded with tomatos! I counted the green tomatos on just one plant and counted 41! Hope they get ripe before it freezes. I will try to protect with plastic as long as I can. So far I have harvested two cherry tomatos, one batch of beans, some small red potatos and lots of turnips. I noticed I have some Topaz beans getting large. I plan to harvest them as snap beans instead of dry beans. Not sure they will get to the dry stage before it freezes.


40 posted on 09/04/2009 2:01:58 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Bernard Madoff's ponzi scheme looks remarkably similar to the way Social Security works)
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To: rightly_dividing

Could it be that the smaller cookers don’t come with an insert to keep the jars seperated and off the bottom of the pot?


41 posted on 09/04/2009 2:24:25 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
That may be it with the newer small ones. The one that wife has was bought for her by her mom, guessing about 10-15 years ago, and it does have a perferated tray with handle, and with feet under it. When she gets home, I will ask her the age of it. We will use it some since we are just beginners in canning, and may buy a bigger one for next year.
We both have made jellys and preserves for several years, this year we did Bread and Butter pickles and Kosher Dills, pickled cauliflower, pickled onion, salsa, and I am about to make cabbage relish over the weekend. We plan a more serious garden for next year. I have studied your photos and have a plan for about a 15 X 15 with irrigation system similar to yours. I am presently scouting the ideal place in the yard with respect to drainage ,and will break the dirt up and add some more to it and season it some with composted manure. So, next year we hope to have a real need for a canner.
42 posted on 09/04/2009 3:04:23 PM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: rightly_dividing

I will be using the PVC irrigation system again next year. It has worked very well. I will change where I start the main feeder lines. My garden is on a slight slope and the area toward the rear needed more water pressure to get everything flowing up hill and the plants toward the center of the garden got more water than they required. So my main feeder lines will all be up slope next year. I don’t know why I ignored gravity this year!LOL


43 posted on 09/04/2009 3:36:40 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Just saw radar for Texas looks like y’all may finally get some needed rain!


44 posted on 09/04/2009 4:29:54 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
All of our Pressure canners have had a spacer to keep the jars off the bottom. I'm not sure it is required but why would they include it if not?. When we double stack jars I put a spacer of some kind between the lids of the bottom jars and the bottoms of the upper...
45 posted on 09/04/2009 4:48:44 PM PDT by tubebender (I don't need no stikin Okra...)
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To: MtnClimber

Are you prepared for the snow this weekend?


46 posted on 09/04/2009 4:55:39 PM PDT by tubebender (I don't need no stikin Okra...)
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To: Red_Devil 232
You should study up on drip irrigation as you can get emitters that are pressure compensating for slopes but I don't think you have that problem. What is your water pressure and is it a well or municipal water? Ask for a catalog from this firm... http://www.dripworksusa.com/ Filtering is the mothers milk of successful drip irrigation...
47 posted on 09/04/2009 5:05:00 PM PDT by tubebender (I don't need no stikin Okra...)
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To: tubebender

I did not know that. I have two pressure cookers that my mother used. They have to be from the 1950’s. I am sure they would work but I am just not comfortable using them and have not tried. I am going to purchase an All American pressure canner next year.


48 posted on 09/04/2009 5:08:09 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: tubebender
I am on a municipal water system. I am not sure of the PSI probably 60 if not a little higher. Not having a filter has not been a problem with the very basic PVC system I have. No emmitters except for the 1/16th drilled holes.

I have been to the dripworks site - nice stuff!

49 posted on 09/04/2009 5:26:00 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Our only cooker is a All American as I could not get one of the Mirros to seal even with a new gasket so we scrapped it. It was so old the Bakelite handles broke and I replaced them with drawer pulls. Costco has some cheap inexpensive Wild Alaska Salmon and I am thinking about getting my Big Chief Smoker out and doing some moist smoked salmon. I shouud can some also...
50 posted on 09/04/2009 5:26:30 PM PDT by tubebender (I don't need no stikin Okra...)
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